England fans only (please) where has it gone do wrong ?

How many countries would have kept the Manager who performed like that at the last WC?

The only team in the tournament where all the players are from their home league....Spurs were touted as a good team by the EPL hype machine they are complete w@nk (as are the rest of them)

What date/era are we going back to please?

The bloke in charge had a prepared resignation letter in his pocket.  That lack of confidence prob transmitted itself to the players.

see my post on so well try another manager

Should we be looking to bring back the old ( foreigner ) rule ??

Teams must field a certain amount of home grown players.  We've gone backwards and I don't know the answer.

Even in 1966 I think they changed the rules to play one of the England games at Wembley when it was planned for another ground (lack of capacity old boy).

roy hodgson has just refused to actually build a team that know what they doing...we went into this tournament like the world cup not knowing what team should be on the pitch, with players who haven't even played together or in a system they feel comfortable playing in...

the game football is a team game and sometimes the best players don't fit into what is in the best interests of building the strongest team in which to play...italy are proving this now with an average team quality wise but are just well drilled as a team, we aren't a team with no system of playing 

harry kane taking corners and free kicks of which he proved pre tourney he wasn't capable of doing, then dropping out to the flank when we are playing one up just defied belief, sterling who has no end product and had no form pre tourney, today we played 2 up with sturridge on the flank who had to keep coming inside to his left foot, then we bring vardy on and give him no service, which is something we didn't even try in a weak qualifying group, no balls over the top or movement off the last man to give him any chance in which to produce

foster has proven since returning from injury he is excellent but not given a chance

townsend not considered when in great form at the end of the season and a proven england player

henderson taken when in desperate form for his club

danny drinkwater not considered but might of been a cracking team player but not even tried

anyway the cracks were there for all to see team wise with no organisation and roy hodgson or any manager has 2 years in which to prepare a team in which to go to war, it doesn't matter if you are aren't good enough, as long as the best team possible are organized on the pitch... we are a poorly run nation

i found the most annoying thing about today was the chaos football we played first half giving the opposition zero respect it deserved, who weren't a class team but were well drilled, i can't imagine we would of shown spain the same disrespect...

anyway its over and gareth southgate is favorite for the job with no experience, i'm not sure of the right option but it needs to be a man who isn't swayed by ego players and can actually build us a team in which to go to a tournament with, that know what they doing...this manager has 2 years in which to build this team

Diff-rent    27 Jun 16 23:22 
Should we be looking to bring back the old ( foreigner ) rule ??

Teams must field a certain amount of home grown players.  We've gone backwards and I don't know the answer.

Didn't qualify for World Cups in 74, 78 & 94.

Weren't too many foreign players about then.

I think its the Rooney factor, he had to change the shape and the tactics in order to get him into the team and it just didnt work.

It's just an "England thing"

Brexits will sort this mess out.
Get rid of them foreigners and give the lower league lads a turn.

...the creation of the EPL, greed took over then

^^^^^
none of that lot fit to lick his boots

In a word money. Winning is now less important than generating or protecting cash. The race to finish top 4, is more important than a chance to win a cup. At some point every member of recent squads, would have sat out games in the two cup competitions, because the Premiership - in reality cash - is the priority for all teams. In international football cash is not part of the equation, and under these circumstances players are minus the motivation which they normally have,and can't or don't adjust. Perhaps it is unfair though to be too critical of players, because the cash is king ethos is inescapable. The Championship play off is not billed as a chance to play at the top level of football, but as the x million pound game. In years gone by a game involving the teams in fifth, and six place, would have been simply that. Now it is a game with Champions League significance. The phrase all important fourth place, is now part of the modern football vocabulary. This sort of environment must impact players approach and attitude to the games they play in. To the players of today, doing if for the glory and the immortality, is not something they can relate to, and it shows on the field.

some of these players reputations are built on ability of imports. look at kane, scores bagload for spurs . why ? he has eriksen supplying him. rose and walker, get help from belgian cbs- keep a tight defence.  these eleven from yesterday whist english aren't representative of the prem league. none of them would get a look in at real madrid or barca.
oh and dont take fat players ( barkley ) and palpably unfit players ( wilshire )

England have stood still, in more ways than one, while other countries have improved and developed.

It can't be coincidence that Iceland have improved so much since they invested in UEFA-qualified coaches to work with their children from 6 years old. They have one coach for every 500 people, England has one for every 10,000. Our kids play on full size pitches and don't get the chance of proper coaching until it's too late. The lack of movement and reliance on long passing and brute force is embarrassing nowadays.

The daft wages and constantly being told they play in the best league in the world don't help.

Took me a while but have figured it out, in training and preparation our defenders practice against our forwards, so they think they are great, likewise our attackers practice against our defenders and they think they are great too. Roy and coaches watching this think this is all going rather well !!

Then we play proper teams.

I got this wrong I really thought we could have done ok, I apologise for my delusion, I won't do it again.

I thought it went quite well

We qualified and then somehow got past the group stage

Well done lads

When they opened the school of excellence, they should have thrown the keys to Dario Gradi and told him to do what he does best, coach young players to play football, pass to each other and to keep the ball