Chile v Columbia - Copa America Runners Up Final

coming up with nonsense like , you cant use high powered vacuums, and high powered kettles

Wait for TTIP! That gives US companies carte blanche in the UK
From suing the govt for falling profits to taking over healthcare and privatising it

we need a totally new parliament imo.. only way things will ever change

howcome you're voting remain then?

all this crap about the EU wont do trade with us if we leave..so germany wont sell us cars? yep..sure

hav'nt voted stay, just lumped on cos i know its a cert.

and holidays and flights going on..sure, so spain wants to have even more unemployed? they NEED british people to go to spain ..tourism

Remain asked over 600 renowned economists for their views. Only about 60 replied!!
That means 540 didn't agree or with their viewpoint or chose to abstain from being a puppet for the remain team.
So when they say all experts unanimously agree with them, they are talking bollox

yep, remain is all scaremongering

that sh1t about it costing the NHS more if we leave the EU..HOW..we have people that come here and use the NHS

All the other bodies that agree with remain have vested interests, ie funding & bobby's jobs

and what about the money saved from noit paying the sky high fees

That's about 10 billion a year net

yep jucel, 100% agree, companies that want chepa labour, want to be able to operate in the eu without any hassle

Cheap labour and also loads and loads of regulations. That way small businesses can't compete as they don't have the manpower to deal with the red tape

Leaving would be terrible for our economy. First time buyers might be happy if house prices fall through the floor, and British exporters might be happy with a much weaker pound, but overall it would be very damaging.

That's not just speculation, you can see how massively the FTSE and pound have strengthened over easing fears (less likelihood) of a Brexit.

oh and also Germany has today said they are very happy to continue trading with the UK. In or out of the EU.

10.45 pm now ffs

exactly jucel, there's LOADS of bs paper

Jun 22, 2016 -- 9:17PM, TheInvestor2 wrote:

Leaving would be terrible for our economy. First time buyers might be happy if house prices fall through the floor, and British exporters might be happy with a much weaker pound, but overall it would be very damaging. That's not just speculation, you can see how massively the FTSE and pound have strengthened over easing fears (less likelihood) of a Brexit.

It wouldn't, it would be a net gain

bs The Investor..why would it, and house prices are already inflated

cant people see house prices are alreayd inflated?

Of course it's scaremongering, they done the exact same here in the Independence vote and all the mugs fell for it, worried that they would lose everything they had worked hard for. Same thing will happen today. Leave have no chance.

what about the money we save from not being in this 'club;

Here is a simple take on things.

UK exits the EU

Sterling drops by 10%

Exporters are charged 5% to 10 % tariffs by EU countries - I don't believe this will happen but there is a contra there. 10% gain on exchange rate with 10% tariff

So far the exporters don't gain/lose

Now look at the consumer

We exit the EU and sterling drops 10%

However, we remove all tariffs on all countries across the world.

Prices go up 10% due to the exchange rate but fall in real terms due to the tariffs being reduced to ALL countries.

We could now see 5 to 10% reduction in prices for consumers.

Therefore the consumers are now happy & the economy should grow

UK is approx 65% consumption, 30 % exports so the consumer gains outweigh the contra on exporters.

Add to this 10 billion we save from EU fees, access to our waters to fish again (hopefully) & we should thrive. Take the shackles off the UK.

yep

100%

all the scaremongering, it's just utter drivel

the problems you mention aren't necessarily the result of the uk being in the eu, and the immigrant issue is mainly due to world trade and free markets and war, all of three of which the UK support wholeheartedly, these issues are not going to magically disappear, none of these problems are going to get solved by leaving the eu, in my opinion staying is the best of two bad options, it could be worse, much worse...if we go out and it's not ttip it will be the comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement and the Trade in Services Agreement, both an utter nightmare compared to ttip, we have lost control either way it goes, sell out to Europe or the US, that is the basic choice here it seems to me

if we have 300,000 immigrants here a year..can someone tell me how they can all afford housing? when LARGE NUMBERS of brits cant

spot on money

but by voting out, we can regain some control

and no, they wont dissapear, but over time things could change

maybe we wouldn't let people use this bs human rights to avoid deportation after raping some young child etc

anyone know how much longer they can delay game for before its abandoned

as long as they want surely

Jun 22, 2016 -- 9:21PM, Rider wrote:

anyone know how much longer they can delay game for before its abandoned

Play all night!

Poles work, Brits don't. I don't know any Poles that don't work.

brain dead is getting tired..........whats the story with this weather delay guys?

You don't need to speculate...

Just look at what the odds have been for Brexit and where the stock market / pound has traded.

"The pound has rallied strongly against the dollar and the FTSE 100 has soared in the wake of polls and betting markets suggesting Remain ahead in the run-up to the EU referendum."

So it's pretty black and white what the markets are saying: leaving is bad (at least financially). This is people all around the world with real money on the line, not some politician on one side or the other merely trying to win an argument.

Some people might think it will be a net gain to leave, but the consensus in the financial markets is the exact opposite.

but, work or not work..it creates amn increased demand on services..it has to, how can schools cope? they cant! how can hospitals cope..they cant

It's 9.20 in Chicago, plus there's no ET planned so they are no further behind to what we'd see a standard game over here would be ATM.

would you be happy if your child gets turned down for a place at ba local school as its 'full' or you cant get a hospital appointment, simple fatc is adding more people to an area makes things stretched even more

theirs goals flying in all over the place in other matches chaps!

Jun 22, 2016 -- 9:23PM, TheInvestor2 wrote:

You don't need to speculate...Just look at what the odds have been for Brexit and where the stock market / pound has traded."The pound has rallied strongly against the dollar and the FTSE 100 has soared in the wake of polls and betting markets suggesting Remain ahead in the run-up to the EU referendum."So it's pretty black and white what the markets are saying: leaving is bad (at least financially). This is people all around the world with real money on the line, not some politician on one side or the other merely trying to win an argument.Some people might think it will be a net gain to leave, but the consensus in the financial markets is the exact opposite.

That's what they are doing, speculating.
Just because the FTSE goes up, it doesn't mean it's good news.
Every time more QE is introduced or a bank is bailed out, the market goes up. Believe me that ain't good news.

this must be the longest thunder storm in living memory.

think its more a precaution

anyone know why the chapocoense game stopped at 80 mins?

The market thinks short term, leaving is a long term project for the generations ahead.
We need to stop being so selfish and myopic and believe in our future

well have you not heard the other thing about how vote remain think oif your children lol

back to 11pm now

I'm laying the next goal for a 10 min trade. Might take the players 5/10 mins to get back in the groove

do you mean 11pm restart?...hour and a half?

5.00 am our time

fook to that, I'm going bed

4am isnt it

Home Run Texas

Chicago six hours behind. US Central

25 mins, but it keeps changing

11pm ET at the moment

They'll play regardless of time. Seen baseball match being restarted six or seven am UK time following rain delay

If eastern time, that's four o'clock

We'll all sleep in for vote.

if the official twitter says 11pm deadline then that's that. game will be played tomorrow evening our time if it doesn't restart in time

Should keep politics off football forum, imo

It must be down to how long they can keep the crowd in the stadium

That would mess all our bets up.

why 11pm deadline?

Don't know

They are going to start in 15 mins - 11pm ET

This has become like a two legged match.

still.sweeping.water.off.pitch

11.20 now

pitch is saturated

I'm waiting on Chile (to qualify) for a big double, so I have just bet Colombia (to qualify) @ 9/1 just in case this delay causes problems. Hope they win in 90mins though as I also have them in a treble with two baseball teams that won.

Goodnight guys, if you have bet Chile I hope you win

GL with your doubles/trebles etc

Pekerman has had a chance to do some strategy. I wonder if it helps.

Imagine ET and Pens

looks very soggy

its on

definite peno

offski

That's harsh

Chile have a 2-0 lead and an extra man & they are really wobbling

0-2 ft?:P

Got be draining for the Chile players & Argie's get an extra days rest

im knackered and im just sitting here

that was pen

Nobhead alert

someone running on the field lol

Overs backers reaching for the turps

what a farce that turned out to be, glad i didnt hang around for it, wd winners.


what are you going to do now brain dead jockeys?  chile 9/4 to win it all

not sure if fatigue after a tough semi final will play a part in the final on sunday night, its not like a tuesday night 4th round league cup tie that nobody wants to play in, anyone that starts injured or not will be running themselves into the ground.

farce indeed, was on overs and should have got out at half time and gone to bed but they kept putting the start time back, dont think the pitch played too bad but the long break might have affected the players, 2 clear penalties not given, the doctor (howard webb equivalent in the USA) said the long break must have affected the ref not to give it! problem is he then evened things up at the other end by not giving another blatant pen on sanchez, its a goal backers nightmare...

going to be a great final, argentina look good with chiles style of play, beat them previously without messi so hopefully bring home the ante post bacon

rider remember 12 months ago it ended 0-0 and Chile won on PKS

But this Argie should tear them a new one but if Higuain is not at the races it can be very frustrating

higuain must be full of confidence at the moment and you can only work on current form, i wont be cashing out on them anyway, would expect chile to create chances mind but the extra days rest and an easier s/f must all be in argentinas favour

do they go strght to pens if all square at 90 mins in the final?

Im late to the party and columbia lost but look what happened at half tume:

I mean half time: