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somemuppet
10 Jun 16 20:56
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Russia wont roll over here, and are a big price draw no bet 9/4 I also fancy both teams to score.

Dzyuba looks very good value to me at 3/1 anytime. Doubling him with Hamsik against Wales at over 3/1 .
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Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
Shocking marking for the goal
Report gaz255 June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
That the one MILNER
Report 11kv June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
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Report inspiron June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
Why people having a go at Sterling? At leat when he was on  England  was winning.
Report DirkDiggler June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
Milner brought on for his defensive qualities...
Report xmoneyx June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
lucky. Goal? It was brilliant
Report slip5 June 11, 2016 9:58 PM BST
roonet performance out of 10 today for you
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
watching that again....seriously hopeless defending...and I should know :(
Report kincsem June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
England have already tied their WC 2014 points total.
Report Shrewd_dude June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST

wales have a bigger threat going forward than the Russians and defensively we are a shambles,smalling was mincing about marking thin air for the Russian goal


Sorry I forgot to put it in quotes, add Lee Dixon and lots of smiley faces to make it clear I was being sarcastic.
Report TheChaser June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
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he was cursing like feck
Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
Lol - Dixon.  Can't be too critical because you lose the positives!  If you think a goal is enough to win the game, you've got to be able to defend!
Report Hamsterdam June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
Tbf that was a gigantic leap by their captain
Report BARNEY15C June 11, 2016 9:59 PM BST
Pundits gushing for England - what pill0cks
Report 11kv June 11, 2016 10:00 PM BST
Knew he couldn't stop it ,jumped in the air and cursed like feckLaughLaughLaugh
Report Crisp77 June 11, 2016 10:00 PM BST
Russia probably one of the best 8 teams in this tournament
Report tommo1000 June 11, 2016 10:01 PM BST
these pundits are causing me to swear like a sailor,ffs tell the truth you bunch of scyopanthic,freeloading c u n t s
Report 11kv June 11, 2016 10:01 PM BST
MOM ?
Report 11kv June 11, 2016 10:01 PM BST
Correct Pete
Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 10:02 PM BST
Crouch - "could have got Vardy on a touch earlier!"

Or maybe got him on at all ;)
Report inspiron June 11, 2016 10:02 PM BST
Why can't we just asmit England is not a very good side. No flair players in the team and cab cause opposition problems.
Report 11kv June 11, 2016 10:02 PM BST
Didn't looked comfortable saying it though...
Report differentdrum June 11, 2016 10:02 PM BST
I didn't see that much of it but from what I did see I am not surprised Paddy Power were keen to lay Kane in the goalscorer markets. He looked isolated and what's he doing on corner duty? Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't score in the tournament. It is the opening game and nobody wants to lose but unless there is a bit of pack shuffling I think goals will be an issue.
Report anxious June 11, 2016 10:03 PM BST
If you have that much of the game you should be more ruthless, we are not good enough
Report Loanwolf June 11, 2016 10:03 PM BST
Playing Stirling limits England-Nogoals no threat-its like playing with only 10 men.Wales will play for a draw so we should be down and out by Thursday
Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 10:03 PM BST
Not once have the pundits pointed out how poor Russia were
Report betchat June 11, 2016 10:04 PM BST
The Russian goal went in at exactly the same place as Ronaldihno's free kick in 2002.  Spooky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUX7MBk5UM
Report xmoneyx June 11, 2016 10:04 PM BST
If you're a plastic chair in Marseille this evening, please contact a loved one and let them know you're safe
Report Geesyerdosh June 11, 2016 10:05 PM BST
Russia were awful. That they got a draw tells you everything about England
Report TheChaser June 11, 2016 10:05 PM BST

TheChaser 11 Jun 16 21:12 Joined: 23 May 12 | Topic/replies: 29,666 | Blogger: TheChaser's blog
russia letting england nonce around now , capello the master the chief the italian stallion soon to unload his missiles


did anyone even see capello
Report sofaking June 11, 2016 10:06 PM BST
What idiots backed England at 1.04-1.10?   Mugs lost over a million quid.
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:06 PM BST
defending was poor....failed to clear the ball, failed to get out quick enough and press, failed to win the ball back, failed to clear it and I've got no idea how Hart managed to be caught in no mans land or how no one was able to get near the Russian....
Report tommo1000 June 11, 2016 10:06 PM BST
everyone on Croatia tomorrow,should smash turkey
Report TheChaser June 11, 2016 10:06 PM BST
ah hes not manager now no wonder they where sh1ter than normal
Report Hamsterdam June 11, 2016 10:06 PM BST
kicking off in stadium

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1BRJjlgyEzNKw
Report sofaking June 11, 2016 10:07 PM BST
Russian fans break into English fan area at stadium after draw at Euro 2016 match

https://www.rt.com/sport/346249-russia-fans-england-football/
Report tobermory June 11, 2016 10:08 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:03PM, Loanwolf wrote:


Playing Stirling limits England-Nogoals no threat-its like playing with only 10 men.Wales will play for a draw so we should be down and out by Thursday


3 draws pretty much guarantees getting to the next round

Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 10:09 PM BST
Why would 3 draws guarantee going through?  That won't be one of the best 4 third places.
Report tobermory June 11, 2016 10:10 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:06PM, sofaking wrote:


What idiots backed England at 1.04-1.10?

Report padlock June 11, 2016 10:11 PM BST
Lol at engerland and roy
Report matador June 11, 2016 10:11 PM BST
Jun 11, 2016 -- 10:06PM, sofaking wrote:

What idiots backed England at 1.04-1.10?

The same ones who backed them at 1.80 before kick off ...
Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 10:12 PM BST
Did I miss all these chances that England had to win by several goals?
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:14 PM BST
15 minutes of analysis and the only insightful thing is that the camera man is welsh and happy as larry...
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:14 PM BST
woy up next...
Report kincsem June 11, 2016 10:15 PM BST
England v Wales is at 14:00.
Weather forecast is rain and 19 degrees.  That will suit England.
Report sofaking June 11, 2016 10:15 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:11PM, matador wrote:


Jun 11, 2016 -- 10:06PM, sofaking wrote:What idiots backed England at 1.04-1.10?The same ones who backed them at 1.80 before kick off ...


I backed them at 1.90 but laid them off at 1-0.  No, not the same people.

Report sofaking June 11, 2016 10:15 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:15PM, kincsem wrote:


England v Wales is at 14:00.Weather forecast is rain and 19 degrees.  That will suit England.


Wales has the same weather as England.

Report rommel June 11, 2016 10:16 PM BST
roy is just a loser,thats it
Report ayt June 11, 2016 10:17 PM BST
Mushtaq r u from UK?
Report xmoneyx June 11, 2016 10:17 PM BST
Excited
Report kincsem June 11, 2016 10:17 PM BST
Why were Russia punting the ball into touch?  They must have given possession a dozen times with aimless long balls.
Report Senyatta June 11, 2016 10:17 PM BST
got what they deserved for those missed chances. for the goal they were all ball watching so only themselves to blame. pressure on for the wales game now they can't really afford a loss
Report matador June 11, 2016 10:18 PM BST
"I backed them at 1.90 but laid them off at 1-0.  No, not the same people."

why back them to lay off later? lay off a turd right from the start !!!!
Report Mushtaq June 11, 2016 10:18 PM BST
ayt of course, why?
Report kincsem June 11, 2016 10:18 PM BST
sofaking
England v Wales is at 14:00.Weather forecast is rain and 19 degrees.  That will suit England.

Wales has the same weather as England.


Yes, I did say that.
Report sofaking June 11, 2016 10:19 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:18PM, matador wrote:


"I backed them at 1.90 but laid them off at 1-0.  No, not the same people."why back them to lay off later? lay off a turd right from the start !!!!


Because I expected them to take the lead and then concede.  Anyway, my bet won.

Report inglaterra June 11, 2016 10:19 PM BST

Jun 11, 2016 -- 4:06PM, sofaking wrote:


What idiots backed England at 1.04-1.10?

Report scootmcnairy June 11, 2016 10:19 PM BST
Must be pockets talking?   Some of the comments on here are as blinkered as Sterlings runs?  England deserved to be 2-3 up at half time, I thought they played very well and Russia were extremely fortunate. Great performance, and we will get even better
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:20 PM BST
Woy...a moment of incredible quality...brilliant cross...brilliant header...nothing we could do.
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:20 PM BST
LMAO
Report Deptford June 11, 2016 10:20 PM BST
Russia a pub team. Stirling, la la, Milner, should be discarded, you have to take your chances, Milner at fault for the goal, too slow and ambled, will beat Taffys no probs
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:21 PM BST
he's talking about swallowing pills now :o
Report EastLower Gooner June 11, 2016 10:21 PM BST
wtf is up with Rooney's eyebrow? botox?
Report somemuppet June 11, 2016 10:22 PM BST
England have won that comfortably, robbed. got my money back anyway.
Report The Gotchee June 11, 2016 10:26 PM BST
England won all their qualifying group matches easily.
When they get to the Tournament proper they always seem to capitulate. So frustrating.
Report gotia June 11, 2016 10:32 PM BST
woy keeps on experimenting .....this match was solely poor management .....any DICK would have got Vardy / Sturridge at HT
Report Autocue June 11, 2016 10:39 PM BST
Shame on England for not putting those useless Russian bastards away.
Report Des Pond June 11, 2016 10:40 PM BST
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over 1.5 qualifying bet, draw for in-play bet

Well,that was fun. My PC crashed after 10 mins, so I couldn't post and didn't get much chance to mitigate either. But it turned out OK. thought I was going to lose, tbh.  Ended up winning about £130 less about £40/50 on here to lay off some. So, not bad. Quite lucky really.
As far as the game goes, I thought England played pretty well, better than I thought. I am not as negative as some of you lot. Thought they were a bit unlucky, especially hitting the post twice. The thing about Russia is that a lot of them have a long winter braek. So they are very fit and quite fresh at this time of year. that's why they came on stronger 2nd half, and never gave up, although England outplayed them to some extent. England should still qualify easily enough, imo.
Report somemuppet June 11, 2016 10:45 PM BST
you cant blame woy when all the overpaid 'superstars' cant finish big chances or pass the ball properly. England deserved to win and shot themselves in the foot by not been clinical during the game and cute at the end by killing the game.
Report Des Pond June 11, 2016 11:05 PM BST
Not sure where some of the negativity is coming from, tbh.  Overall, I thought they played well enough, just need to be more clinical as you say. People are just demoralised because of the last ditch equaliser, it is always a sickener when you thought the game was won.
Report differentdrum June 12, 2016 12:19 AM BST
Watched the BBC highlights and struggling to see all these great chances. There were a couple of shots straight at the keeper and a good chance for Rooney but unless they missed a lot out that was about it.

Kane appeared on the end of nothing and presumably lacked the confidence to take that free kick which really should have been saved.

At least Shearer highlighted the stupidity of Kane taking the corners.
Report enpassant June 12, 2016 12:23 AM BST
"What's your best quality ?" Kane replied " finishing". So obviously he should take corners !
Report enpassant June 12, 2016 12:25 AM BST
Kane got no service whatsoever and Sterling was the main reason - he was just a waste of a player when it came to a final pass or cross. Vardy should have come on after we scored for Kane as Russia were throwing men forward leaving wide open spaces for Vardy's pace.
Report treetop June 12, 2016 5:44 AM BST
Sterling kept on wasting possession,gave the ball away so many times he should have been subbed halfway through. Kane may as well have stayed at home with that selfishness.
Report sageform June 12, 2016 7:02 AM BST
I could not believe the biased commentary on ITV. I could never see much between the sides and the idea that the superior English team were unlucky is absurd. As usual, Rose, Walker and Dier were good as was Lallana but the rest were very ordinary.
Report BARNEY21. June 12, 2016 7:55 AM BST
A pretty ordinary Russian team should have been right up Englands Alli exc the pun,the commentators got carried away not for the first time jus a reasonable performance.
Report Outpost June 12, 2016 8:30 AM BST
england had a couple of good chances but didn't take them,and russia had a couple of good chances but didn't take them.

there wasn't much between two ordinary teams.

alli had to dive on the edge of the box (as he's done all season) to win a chance for england's goal, which in the end was a gift from the russian goalie.

russia scored with a great header late on which was a gift from the english goalie (hart's positioning is terrible sometimes and he only makes commentators "brilliant" saves when the ball is smashed straight at him)
Report stridingedge June 12, 2016 9:23 AM BST
That's a rubbish assessment tbh

England were not clinical in the final 3rd, of course this is where it matters but they were miles better than Russia, actually surprised me how well we passed it and how confident our players were when pressed.

It's ok to look at chances created but that doesn't always reflect on a game, we didn't create enough clear cut ones from the situations we managed to get into.Composure everywhere bar where it really matters, countless opportunities to play a final pass and make a good chance were just not taken.

Digesting that game, probably one of the best performances I have seen in a tournament from us for a long time but will these players now react to a disappointing draw and show the required mentality,

Ability wise that was a complete mismatch but winning tournament games is more than that you need the mental strength also.

Sterling wasting far too many good situations, if keeping his place needs to start producing end product and kane on the last 2 matches just isn't doing nearly enough.
Report stridingedge June 12, 2016 9:25 AM BST
I'd still worry defensively about us against better teams though it has to be said, this was what really concerned me before the tournament, in the friendlies we could/should have conceded more goals but were let off the hook.
Report cryoftruth June 12, 2016 9:43 AM BST
England did play very well.

The manager deserves some credit. The pressing style and the attacking intent.all good.

However the management of the game was not good. With the Russians tiring, leaving Kane on, and Stirling too was a major error. The Russians have a 37 year old in the middle of the defence. Why leave a tired looking Kane on the pitch, when you have Vardy raring to go? Sturridge scores goals, Stirling does not.

England dominated much of the game and should have won, but if you try to sit on a 1-0 lead and retreat to allow high balls into the box there is always a risk. They were made to pay ultimately for abandoning the attcking method and going negative.
Report sageform June 12, 2016 10:36 AM BST
England were like a horse that travels all over the opposition but still loses or a bowler who often beats the bat but doesn't take a wicket. Results are all that we can judge them by and we have failed in that department since 1966.
Report xmoneyx June 12, 2016 10:40 AM BST
pity England/Wales same group
Report Des Pond June 12, 2016 11:25 AM BST
When I watched the Slovakia goal against Wales, i thought. " I can see Vardy making runs like that and creating chances for Rooney, kane or one of the midfielders to slot in." He will surely get the chance to run at Wales like the Slovakian player did. I think that England should beat Wales and Slovakia to win the group. No need for pessimism, imo.
Report Diff-rent June 12, 2016 11:35 AM BST
Well done opening poster hopefully you took a few quid from bookies.

I haven't read the whole thread. Does anyone know what odds England were before equaliser ?  I'm guessing 1.05 or less cheers in advance.
Report madhatter June 12, 2016 11:46 AM BST
The reason we didn't win was down to rank bad management of the substitutions and Milner playing like a schoolboy.

Russia had to press late on so we take off a player that will force them to be more cautious (Sterling) and fail to replace him with Vardy who would have had the same effect.

Instead we bring on an experienced midfielder to try to shore it all up defensively for a 1-0 victory and invite the Russians to have a go in the last 10 minutes.
Then Milner runs out to close a man down at an idiotic speed, is easily beaten and the rest is history.

Ridiculous use of the substitutes.
Report madhatter June 12, 2016 11:48 AM BST
cryoftruth said it already in the second post on this thread
Report ffaith June 12, 2016 11:50 AM BST
The Liverpool/Spurs bias in the squad is shocking.

Roy has treated the WHU players with contempt for example.

Then their are the Leicester boys.  I'm sure Roy only picked vardy due to public pressure and thru gritted teeth.
Report Outpost June 12, 2016 11:55 AM BST
roy never wanted vardy - he wanted kane and rooney.

vardy was taken because of the feeling back home with the fans and the media that he could score goals.

it would be madness for roy to leave vardy out of the wales match as he knows if he loses that match without vardy then he loses his job.
Report Blackrock June 12, 2016 11:59 AM BST
Have to say thought we played well last night. The equaliser was gutting and we didn't deserve to only draw.

Dissapointed in whoever it was trying to close down the Russian when he carried the ball into the box [ may have been Milner? ].

Stirling getting way too much stick. His electric pace meant we had nobody in support except Kane, who was surrounded by 3 defenders.
Report Des Pond June 12, 2016 12:26 PM BST
Milner at fault partly, I think. And Rose was easily beaten to the cross. Though The guy leapt like the proverbial salmon, to be fair, and Rose is quite short.
Report Outpost June 12, 2016 1:10 PM BST
I think some folk on here need to watch the matches and see for themselves what is happening during the game instead of just listening to the totally biased commentators who only see what they want to see.

you might see the actual match then instead of the made up version invented by the commentator.
Report BARNEY15C June 12, 2016 1:26 PM BST
Half the time they seem to be seeing a totally different match. Bring back David Coleman (oeeer we can't), he always seemed to say it as he saw it.
Report stridingedge June 12, 2016 1:29 PM BST
I think if you watched that and think the teams were fairly even in terms of ability you'd be in a real minority of neutrals.

Chances created were not as good as they should have been from the final 3rd positions

the passing was good/very good at times

players being pressed did not sh1t themselves and hoof it very often, possession was well maintained.

On a lot of the tripe I am used to seeing where we have looked the same as lowly ranked opposition, yesterday's game was miles from that.

It was your 2 pretty even teams which was way out imo but if that's what you really think then so be it, i certainly don't need a commentator to form my view of things.
Report stridingedge June 12, 2016 1:30 PM BST
Of course it's all about results, and brilliant was not a good word for the display as where it really mattered we lacked but the opposition were 2nd best throughout.
Report sageform June 12, 2016 3:27 PM BST
Why does a manager deserve credit when his team are so superior in talent but still can't win. Their only goal was from a free kick. The Russian manager is the one who deserves credit. Half the team injured, several more over 30 yo and one drafted in at the last minute from Germany!!
Report Quincy June 12, 2016 4:01 PM BST
Can't see us qualifying and I haven't even looked at the betting.  Chances are one point or two after the Wales match.
Last night reminded me of 1970, no danger so we take our best player, Charlton, off.  Last night, no danger so we take Rooney off. We never learn. And no, I'm not a big Rooney fan.
Report enpassant June 12, 2016 6:17 PM BST
Drop Sterling (not good enough) drop Rooney ( unbalances the team and preoccupies Hodgson too much) and never resort to Milner  again.
Report cricketnut2 June 12, 2016 7:49 PM BST
Too many very average players, in the side unfortunately, their goal was so, so soft and that is where we are weak. There will be one class Player on the pitch on Thursday and he could well decide the match. Gareth Bale could well win the game for Wales. I'm not saying he will, but he's far more likely to do so than Rooney. Play Rashford and give the lad a chance.
Report somemuppet June 12, 2016 8:59 PM BST
wales v england looks another draw to me.
Report BARNEY15C June 12, 2016 9:40 PM BST
lots and lots of players not up to it on an international level
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