Championnats Européens, la France 2016- bookmakers offers

in the chinese league corals have a side tomorrow called Chongqing Lifan at 13/10.  2.1 to lay on here but odds on everywhere else

I have to be cautious with the Chinese League.  I have taken Guangzhou today at 2/5 (well, I've taken them on various different markets as I'm only allowed £25 in shop).  But I managed to get 2/1 on Sunday on Shandong Luneng with Hills in a different shop for a good few quid.  They were 2.3 at the time I was putting them on, by kick off time they had drifted back out to 3.1.  They lost 2-1 !!

Suppose you can't win em all.

managed to get the 12/5 so thank you for that.

had to ask over the counter for the price of isner to beat del potro but its been pulled, they held the price on isner the longest though at 13/8.  the guy did tell me he had one market on his system, both players to win a set, only 11/10.  best odds anywhere else 1.85 so did it anyway.

just need to wiat and see

chinese games, it wouldnt surprise me if theyre just deliberately trying to get a higher price on the home team here.  also  wouldnt be surprised at all if the chinese mob had a word in the ear of the backed side to make sure they lose, seen as theyre the ones laying all the bets.

theres so much money in chinese football now, they obviously have a piece of it.

on corals own self service machine, they had zalgris 8/5, ive no idea who is providing the prices for their (and ladbrokes) self service machines but theyre pretty quick at killing prices.

As for the Euros, Hills best of the day is Portugal -1 @2/1.  Can be backed online or in shop (easiest through their terminals but expect limited stakes).  2.64 to back on here

Everythign else just matches the other firms

Corals self service machines are run by a separate company, Corals just take a cut or rent the shop space.  It's some European company, can't remember the name.  Austrian based or something near there I think.  When they were first introduced, the prices were all over the shop but they are now pretty much in line with Betfair and will adjust accordingly pretty quick.  I've heard that their anytime scorer markets are sometimes out of line but never really explored it.

Isner vs Del Potro... Hills online have Number of Sets - 3 @ 6/5.  That's the same bet as both players to win a set.

your eright, i didnt even think to look for that market.

betfred will be ready soon with some more Euro 2016 price boosts, only one they have up just now is portugal and both teams scoring 4/1, not much of a price boost at all.

Guangzhou Evergrande match starting soon, take a look at the money on Betfair waiting to be traded on the Over 3.5 market.

nothing to shout about from freds today that cant be had elsewhere.

ronaldo anytime and portugal win @7/4 is closest but its not much better than the 6/4 hills have.  not enough to have a bet at least

no 3/1 double from them today

only a 2/1 double in the end

not sure if you can use a corals account online wildcat but if you can they have Rabotnicki today in a friendly at 5.8, no idea about shops.

seems to be getting punted down, not sure how low itll go but its around 3/1 most places online. 

Draw No Bet 10/3, the rest all 9/4

Rabotnicki 1-0 up, greenign back my stake on both the win and DNB. 

on the 90 minute market they kicked off on here at 5/2

now 10/11 and 4/9.   does anyone know anything about these sides?

normally id never green out but at 0-1 at HT, with this being a friendly, it does have that look to it of being now or 1-1 in 20 minutes.

had to give up 1/3rd of possible returns to extract now at 4/6 and 1/4.  no complaints..!  on to lithuania

Well its a decent return either way and very good spot at the prices. 

I'll hope for some goals in Lithuania and I also have a few doubles and trebles riding onto Nykoping at 6pm.  I'm on at 8/15 in a treble with two other winners but also got them in various other bets.  A 1st half goal will open up a lot of options for me to trade off in the 2nd half.

0-2 now.

yep, no regrets, glad theyre winning for other backers.

Kauno Zalgiris losing 1-0.  Their price barely broke above 2.7 before that goal.

early days

1-1  20 minutes, can we do it.

mope 2-1.

When it went to 1-1 I was hopeful of a late goal... it arrived... but the wrong way.

Tough day all round yesterday with Nykoping not scoring in the 1st half costing me a fair whack.  But that's life, you can't win them all.

Was hoping for a quiet day today and instead it's been hectic already and I've lumped a few.

Chongqing Lifan - 13/10 with Hills vs 1.85 on here (also 10/3 to win to nil)

Geylang International - 5/2 into 13/10 with Hills but their other markets on the coupons haven't been amended so have backed Geylang to win and 3+ goals in the match at 9/2 and 4+ goals at 9/1.  Along with Geylang to score both halves at 4's.

And then over the road to Corals...

KR Reykjavik @ 6/4 vs 2.1 on here.
Briedablik @ 7/5 vs 2.26 on here.
Lahti @ 4/5 vs 1.66 on here.

Nothing stand out on the Euro's as yet but I hammered Portugal last night and so was a costly day all round.  Hopefully these might pick up a bit as I've definitely had more than enough on them all.

the only decent boost from betfred today is Payet anytime and France to win ar 9/4, best elsewhere is powers at 2.8.

will check if those prices are stil lthere on the coupons at hills when im down town thanks

Good start... Geylang losing 1-0 already after a minute !!

so much for FC Lahti, went in and asked if the pric had changed and the guy said yeah, its now 8/5

oh yeah isee what hes done, hes looked at their price for the weekend

It was on their midweek coupon.  I normally just put a quid on certain games to see what prices they are coming off at before going back and get a bit more on once confirmed.

The Geylang game isn't too bad, whilst behind, if they do win then the Score and Win and Win and 3+ goals are all coming is as well.

Chongqing Lifan 1-0 up as well.

it just so happens that ive known the guy working on the counter in my local corals for years, i trained him about 8 years ago when i worked for hills so iv no problem asking him about prices, never feel the need to be discreet when hes in.

I have Hebei and Chongqing Lifan just now in these games, 2.2 and 2.3 originally.  Hebei have been behind twice but currently 2-2

YOU WORKED FOR HILLS !!!!! ????

i dont want to say too much on here but ive had a few jobs with hills over the past 10 years.  ladbrokes too for a while.

Freds pushed hamsik anytime scorer out to 4/1
Not sure what price it was on here.

it was 4/1 at a couple of places this morning but easy money for all backers

Bet365 today!

betfred have a lto of rubbish today, as do all the other books.

i think the best theyve done on the prices is Ukraine+Germany double at 2/1 but its marginal. 

yarmolenko to score anytime isd a fair price aswell at 2/1.

the res of their lunchtime boosts can be had anywhere.

i dont know how easy it is for you to check wildcat but corals have Trnava in a friendly this afternoon at 2.45, its been backed heavily into odds on everywhere and is currently 1.7 to lay on here.

Thats on their website, no idea if its on their coupons in shop.

Sorry, not been on as much for the past day.

Didn't see the above, but just seen the result.  Wasn't on their coupon this morning though.  Have taken a couple of Brazilian games on it though, Goais at 11/10 (into 4/6) and Sampo Carrera 13/8 (into 6/5).

Theres been a few friendlies spo far that have come good for me today.  Omonia were backed in from 6/5 and the goals markets i nthe Honved game were hammered but I managed to get 6/4 for over3.5 with scraped home.  Some close calls though and the worst bet of the day was the biggest price mistake Corals had

what time did you put those brazillian games on?>

The only one I got from Brazil this afternoon was Joinville at 6/4. they were down below the 2.3 they are now on BF earlier but still happy with the price.

Have a big price one for the Tennis tomorrow aswell, Zerev at 5.0 from paddys, liek the one above the price came right down before bouncing but still I'm beating the betfair price so happy.

Belgium Portugal double is 3/1 in freds today.

yep, looks their best one. illl be on it shortly

Zerev wins

Took it down in the shop at 12.30 ffs

Just back from a few days holiday, hope you lads got some decent bets in the last few days. Didn't get access where i was, which is fine for me, as there are better things to do on holiday. Belgium/Portugal double looks like a "bookmaker's special" tbh: a trap for the unwary. Both teams look stronger on paper, but all sorts of motivational and work rate and team spirit issues. Like I said before , i don't rate Belgium at all, and see no reason why Ireland can't get a result.

im with you on that, ive been slating belgium for a very long time, portugal too.

i cant turn down a betfair smashing price though

glad you enjoyed your holidays, you missed 3/10 good matches

Good luck Clach, I'm not sure I get your logic, tbh. if you have doubts about Belgium and Portugal. des that not say "Leave well alone" to you?

Been a few upsets I see. I think the format was always going to throw up some strange results. It maybe engenders some complacency, if certain teams think they can't go out early!

i tend not to let my opinion get in the way of these bookmaker offers.

i have a spreadhseet here I update every day with all my bets, its split into 3 sections and 3 running totals, atm the sections are labelled "bookmaker offers", "price changes" and "sh1tty bets".


any bets that beat the best price elsewhere and the betfair price, generally goes itno sections 1 or 2 without question depending where theyve come from.  the last one is just my normal bets, id never in a million years back either belgium or portugal against these teams otherwise.

yesterday was a good day for betting (besides me not greening on croatia even after the game was interuppted).  italy and spain winning caused a few BOOMS on the forums

I was in Budapest when Hungary beat Austria, great atmosphere! The Hungarians were ecstatic and genuinely surprised at their team doing so well!

WD lads: Belgium/ Portugal double still on. I suppose you could lay Portugal now. How much did you get on at 3/1?

£50, my normal bets are £20-£30 but ive gone stupid these euros.

had a couple of £100 ones with fred so far this tournament.

if i lay mystake back I could get a free bet on portugal to win £100, ill worryabout that later, see how i ge ton with this next match.

GL. I wonder if the scoreline (Belgium v Ireland) will lead to some unrealsitic expectations when the Belgians come up against a decent side (Ireland were very limited, tbh). Maybe a good lay, later on?

I think so, even after calling the Italy v Belgium game spot on I said afterwards Belgium would take care of Ireland and Sweden with ease.  When they come up against a real team theyre far too slow in moving the ball forward, every player has to take 3 or 4 touches, its as if each player is desperate to prove how good they are.

Hazard is a problem for them the same as Rooney is for England, hes nowhere near as good as he used to be (4 goals and 3 assists in the last PL season ) and hes the worst culprit for moving the ball around at snails pace.

Carassco starting and dropping Fellaini is a huge step in the right direction, swap out Hazard for nobody and start with 10 men is the next step required.

Betfreds double today- France and Romania 4/1, probably a mug bet but worth it at the prices.

Des Pond
18 Jun 16 14:23
I was in Budapest when Hungary beat Austria, great atmosphere! Grin The Hungarians were ecstatic and genuinely surprised at their team doing so well!


missed that line.  what a great place to be for that match, you probably saw scenes you would never see in england.  i was on holiday in greece in 2004 when they won the whole competition, as you can imagien they enjoyed themselves

Was going to play on some of the Belarus games today but all the firms have reacted.

Hills had Dinamo Minsk at 11/10 on their coupon (1.29 on here) but that's long gone and all the sub coupons have been adjusted too.  They have pushed Shakhter Soligorsk out to 8/11 this morning (after money for Isloch yesterday) but that has reversed now and the 8/11 was bigger than the 1.64 they are trading on here.  I've done a few small bets on Minsk and Soligorisk to win to nill but nothing mega.

Lost a fortune on the Singapore League yesterday, the goal lines were all wrong with Hills, 8/11 on O2.5 (vs 1.5), 7/4 O3.5 (vs 2.24) and 4/1 on O4.5 (vs 3.5)  It finished 1-1, that hurt a lot.

Not playing the Euro games, difficult to assess really and I've got a  couple of group winner bets on England and Portugal in a double so will watch and hope for a few results in my favour to land a bit back.

Wow sorry to hear that, you get days like that no matter how youre punting.  I did alright yesterday on the Norwegian and Finnish football, caught 3/4 price changes I went on.


HAvent done anything today, was busy all morning so missed whatever Fred had to offer on these Euro game sbut judging from his latest attempts to lure me in it was probably for the best!

Dont know if they have any of these friendly game son their coupons today but Corals last to hold prices on some moves.

Slavia Prague 3.5, St. Polten 2.4, Kapfenberg 8.5, Kapfenberg DNB 6.0

Spain and Germany double at freds today 2/1, beating the price on here but not by much.

lots of moving prices today in shop.  the only 1 they had left worth trying was Luverdense @8/11, 1.5 on here.  I've done them in a double with another one Gauthiod in the Swedish lower leagues @5/6, not much shorter on here but the rest of the prices were long gone.

Wildcat if your earound, on William Hills website and thus their inshop self service machines, just now Austria Vienna are 4/5 in a friendly today at 5 oclock.  Next best is powers at 1.62 and the rest all 1.5 or below.

Corals have thier usual selection of held prices

4/9 now

That game won't be on their machines... they have taken all the dodgy stuff off them these days... hardly anything left.

I will have a look online though.

(Just checked... 4/9 online now, they must have read your message ! )

i'm holding a slip in my hand just now from a machine wit hthat game on it, todays the first day this week ive seen the friendlies available.

they usually have the european friendlies on their pricefinder screens in shop, all of those prices are available at the counter, i never checked if austria vienna were on there so no idea what their price was.  they have games on that pricefinder machine that arent even on their website sometimes.

Offers drying up? A few firms (including laddies, though most will ave account already, have England 6/1 and 5/1, max £10 (winnings in free bets).

ive not even looked this past couple of days, the bookies arent giving anything away you cant just get on here

Nothing amazing again on the offers today.. winding down now.

Europa League games, plenty of prices cut so I have missed the value.  Tried to get £120 on Admira Wacker vs Spartak - Under 2.5 goals at 5/6 with Billy but was knocked back to £25 in both shops I tried so I have left alone.  1.83 on here so no real arb (if that's what my client manager thinks I'm doing with the bet).

Onwards and upwards...

I've got Zaglebie Lubin at 11/10, 1.9 on here to lay
Kairat Almaty at 8/11, now 1.51 to lay
Mjondalen in the Norweigen football too at 4/5, 1.68 on here.
all hills


nothing groundbreaking, there were bigger ones i missed, done Dundalk tomorrow aswell with hills at Even money.

ive not been down to the bookies at all today, corals never had a europa league coupon yesterday so ive no idea if they held any prices.

Corals have a coupon but only a select few games on it, not as extensive as Hills.

Hearts were the biggest mover, tried to get them to win to nill but everywhere has cut to odds on.  Mjondalen and 3 or more goals also cut everywhere.

A disappointing lunch time trip out to be honest !

just had a look there and dundalk are now 1.86 to lay.

I know what these guys are like with thier stake limits, generally if you keep it under £100 youll be fine to get on but if theyve already been alerted to you then youre probably screwed whatever amount you try and back.

im in the cycle of doing them one day in advance, it means theres some you'll miss with late gambles but generally youll get yourself 2/3/4 bets per day and draw a little less attention.

I was knocked back on a £50 single at Joe's yesterday.  Allowed £25 on an 8/13.

It was 1.59 on here, so no arb.  It didn't win.

i never arb, usually bet £50-£60 these days, just straight bets, makes life easier getitng on as you arent scrambling around trying to nick £2

For me, everyone should be allowed up to £100 on at a price they have available.  Even the arbers can't make enough trading a bet with those margins and only £100 on.  You need to get £500 on at least on most arbs to make it worth your while.  Traders these days look at their price and reflect on Betfair and if the comparison is 2.75 vs 2.70 on here then they automatically assume that's an arb !!

Simple thing to do instead of knocking everyone back is to cut the price.  If Hills weren't happy laying 5/6 then cut it to 8/11 instead.

And for the record, the traders told the shop that I was in to ring round the area to let them know I might be on my way to get the bet on.  £100 at 5/6 and you have to ring around the district to pre-warn them for a possible £80 loss.  They should simply give up the game if that's their procedure.

in my experience once you crossed the line of being known to them it wouldnt matter if you walked in with £1, most of the staff are trained to believe youre there to rob the place with a shotgun.

And sadly, one of the shops in my area had that happen to them a few days ago by the sounds of it.  Was waiting for it to hit the local paper, but nothing as yet.

Whilst I dislike the firm 110%, I don't dislike the shop staff and wouldn't wish that to happen to anyone.

I've taken Cabinteely tonight at Corals, 13/10 (vs 2.12).

And a couple tomorrow, but small stakes as I hate the Chinese League.

Hills...

Ghangzou RF @ Evens vs 1.91

Beijing Guoan @ 7/4 vs 2.82 (not trading below the price but 5k matched on the market and 95% on the away side, so I'll give it a pop).

ive done a couple with corals tomorrow aswell, la equidad 6/5 (2.06) and fc seoul 11/8 (2.26)

ive got brage in the swedish football too at 3/1 but doubt itll be much better come kick off, currently 3.6 to backo nhere but no liquidity.

i didnt even look at the chinese football

Baldy - Iceland to score a goal 6/4 from Evens.

Anybody know what happens if Iceland score more than 1?

The reason I ask is, on the website, France clean sheet is 4/5.

aslong as they get 1 goal the bests a winner, even if they score 10

Thnx Clach

double the odds if they get 2,treble if they get 3

Portugal to win the Euro's without winning a game, 33/1 with Hills today.  Not sure if that was an all day special or just for an hour, think it was all day.  £20 max.

A double on them winning both matches on penalties???

33/1???

9/1 on here to beat Wales on pens?

???

They could win in extra time as well.

ah, thanks!

So approx 5.37 to go through without winning.

Will be much bigger price v Germany or France.

Computer says NO.

Clacher,

Plenty to go at over today and tomorrow...especially with your mates Corals.

Flora to bt Lincoln Red Imps 9/5 vs 2.6 on here
TPS to bt KPV 5/4 vs 2.04

Tomorrow...
Dinamo Minks 6/4 vs 2.30
Aberdeen 4/6 vs 1.54
Ventspils 11/10 vs 1.94
Zaglebie Lubin 1/3 vs 1.28


I've also done 4 x doubles on the following (where the favourites are drifting)

Slovan Bratislava vs partizan Tirana
Draw @ 3/1 & Away @ 6/1
Hibernians vs Spartak Trnava
Home @ 4/1 & Draw @ 3/1

Managed to make a few quid on the late goals for TNS and Dundalk last night, and also backed Selfoss but had them score and win and to win and over 2.5 goals.  They won 0-2 !!

Dafabet offering a free £30 bet today.
Come on Wales

If Wales do not qualify for the final, you don’t lose
If Wales fail to qualify for the final, we shall refund your first pre-match bet on the match, provided it is on a Wales market and it loses, up to £30 as a free bet to be placed on the final.

Ive already backed Flora at 9/5 and I've got Infonet at home to Hearts at 9/2, not sure what they are now but I also backed Differdange with Corals away to Cliftonville at 9/5, 5/4 on here.

Yesterday I had that team from Georgia at Evens who went off on here under 1/2, they took the lead twice and still lost 3-2

Just found my other slip with corals, Ive got Admira Wacker at 2/1 and I've done the Minsk bet too.

surely to fk theres a winner in here somewhere

The Differdange bet was with Hills.

I backed Differdange this morning again with the goals markets, it was 2.8 this morning, price has plunged.

Time to nip out and get some more on !!

Jul 6, 2016 -- 10:51AM, YOMOMMA wrote:

Dafabet offering a free £30 bet today.Come on WalesIf Wales do not qualify for the final, you don’t loseIf Wales fail to qualify for the final, we shall refund your first pre-match bet on the match, provided it is on a Wales market and it loses, up to £30 as a free bet to be placed on the final.

I found an arb at high odds which should hopefully lose at Dafabet and then I'll have a free £30 bet to use on the final.

Differdange cut everywhere

Even the firms with traders who fall asleep, they have cut.  Oh well, nothing much I can do about it now !

Betfred have been hammered.

They offered France 4/1 to win Euro 2016 and NI to qualify from the group at 4/1. Ouch.

Maybe time for a new thread...

Hills Premier League offers, 33 days to go so...

33/1 on 1080 goals scored in the Premier League season.


And on another note....

Corals are 8/13 in shop for Tosno (vs Khimiki) vs 1.48 to lay on here.  Have doubled with
Oddevold 10/11 (vs Norrby) vs 1.87.