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Are the exchange prices ever wrong on Premiership. Seems very poor value.

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By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 08:49
They were shorter before too in the 1.55 range.

So the market agrees, and is moving them out, but I agree still too short on all known form.

They are rated as City a considerably stronger side than Leicester - but Leicester are 3 points higher after a decent enough sample of games this season to judge it. City also have worse injury problems.

So, yes, City have to be a lay at this price and anything up to about 1.9 IMO.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 08:50
Should say, City meaning Man City above of course.
By:
themover
When: 06 Feb 16 08:53
Simples :

By:
TheBetfairBuddy
When: 06 Feb 16 08:57
LIVE!   
Manchester City
Leicester City
Draw
1.598
6.150
4.300

Pinnie odds. Also need a bigger price, then C.I.T.Y.!
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:01
I'd price Man City about 2.0 personally for this game! So 1.65 etc looks crazy.

They were limp against Sunderland and got dominated by a side in relegation, most recent match!
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:04
Home

Points per game
Manchester City    2.33   
League avg.    1.46   
% Wins
Manchester City    75%   
League avg.    39%   
% Draws
Manchester City    8%   
League avg.    29%   
% Defeats
Manchester City    17%   
League avg.    32%   
Goals scored per game
Manchester City    2.75   
League avg.    1.45   
Goals conceded per game
Manchester City    1.00   
League avg.    1.17   
Total goals per game
Manchester City    3.75   
League avg.    2.61   
% games over 2.5 goals
Manchester City    83.3%   
League avg.    50%
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:09
75% home wins isn't that impressive is it, for a side like Man City? - and they lost 2.

Leicester have only lost 1 away in addition.

Factor in players are missing from those Man City games.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:15
West Ham, Liverpool, Everton

The three sides who stopped City winning home matches, just out of interest.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:15
Hammers and Liverpool beating them
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:19
Liverpool game was a complete fluke as liverpool have not performed anywhere near it since, west ham was a smash and grab 27 shots v 6. Not saying city's price is right btw.

should be 1.70 ish imo.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:21
Injuries huge for going against Man City though - losing players like Kompany massive for them. Their stats reflect him playing earlier in the season, and others who are now out.
By:
themover
When: 06 Feb 16 09:24
In the fixture at Leicester (0-0) City had 21 shots (5 on target, 7 blocked, 9 off target), Kompany was missing for the match as with this one. Obviously City had more possession which I'd expect to be no different today and with Aguero back to form (he was taken off after an hour in the away fixture) if they take the chances they should win this comfortably imho Mischief
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:26
Interesting stat - Navas also missing today.

Games with him: 76% wins

Games without him: 50% wins

Maybe big a miss as Kompany.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:27
Navas is crap, dont care what the stats say.

themover, you sure about a comfortable win ?

That means you are on -1.5 ?
By:
Vorskla
When: 06 Feb 16 09:27
Man City favs to win league. Leicester currently third favourites. Record of 1st v 3rd in last 20 years of Premier League = HW 13 (8/15) D 3 AW 4. (4/1).
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:28
dont care what the stats say. nah, goals and results don't matter then, lol
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:30
Vorskla - what are the stats for 1st placed in the table v 2nd placed?
By:
themover
When: 06 Feb 16 09:35

Feb 6, 2016 -- 9:27AM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


Navas is crap, dont care what the stats say.themover, you sure about a comfortable win ?That means you are on -1.5 ?


Can't be sure of anything Laugh

I've backed City and both teams to score
3-1 @14.0
2-0 @ 9.4
Any other home win @ 7.6

By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:38
If this was a bigger named club sitting 3 points above City (e.g. the Arsenal, Chels, Liverpool etc) Man City would have been trading about 2.0 to win this match, which is where they should be.

Historical bias counts against Leicester in the pricing for sure, but there's no solid reason for the price.

Course the home side are the most likely result, but can't dispute the above?
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:42
actually, they'd probably be more like 2.2 thinking about it
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:43
the stats regarding navas ysfdc
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:44
Laugh
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:46
I know - no need for name calling. stats never lie.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:49
Was needed in this case as you took my words totally out of context, are you a journalist ?
By:
Vorskla
When: 06 Feb 16 09:50
The best way to calculate odds is do an average of the neighbouring places. For 1v3, I would work out an average percentage for 1v2, 1v3, 1v4 and 2v3. HW 54/80 (67.5% or 1/2), D 14/80 (17.5% or 9/2 ish) AW 12/80 (15% or 11/2 ish).
But to answer your question, 1v2 is surprisingly HW 11 D 7 AW 2.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 09:52
good stuff Vorskla
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:52
Thanks Vorska, nearer where I'd placed it then for that stat.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:55
Was needed in this case as you took my words totally out of context, are you a journalist ?

Stop being so delicate, ffs. If you don't want a silly reply don't make silly statements.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 09:58
Of course the games, and results he played in are relevant to this.
By:
themover
When: 06 Feb 16 10:04
many would argue that :

Aguero

Sterling Toure Silva

is better than

Aguero

Sterling Toure Navas

if that is what Pellegrini selects
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 10:05
Anyway, all the focus on the Home side coin, but the other is the away side (and stats).

The prices are ignoring those too.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 10:11
Would be interesting to see navas win % and start % against decent teams, especially after august.
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 10:12
It's only one stat I know, just added to others against their pricing.
By:
themover
When: 06 Feb 16 10:15
Yaya to score at 11/4 has a nice ring to it (especially if he plays in the hole behind King Kun) Tongue Out
By:
stu
When: 06 Feb 16 11:15
If this was a bigger named club sitting 3 points above City (e.g. the Arsenal, Chels, Liverpool etc) Man City would have been trading about 2.0 to win this match, which is where they should be.

Historical bias counts against Leicester in the pricing for sure, but there's no solid reason for the price.

Course the home side are the most likely result, but can't dispute the above?


Anyone thoughts on that?
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 06 Feb 16 11:25
Must be just me (and themover, obvz) who thinks that 1.65 is a perfectly decent price on City.  Not like Leicester are going to have much of the ball and Aguero up against Wes Morgan... Laugh
By:
kellydamo
When: 06 Feb 16 11:27

Feb 6, 2016 -- 11:25AM, Rob_The_Bantam wrote:


Must be just me (and themover, obvz) who thinks that 1.65 is a perfectly decent price on City.  Not like Leicester are going to have much of the ball and Aguero up against Wes Morgan...


Nope me as well

By:
rommel
When: 06 Feb 16 11:47
fwiw think leic could well shock 'em yep,gl all
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 16 11:49
So wes morgan worse than otamendi and demichelis ?
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