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Report rommel December 17, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
managers job is to get em back in it of course
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 3:41 PM GMT
Bad choice by Chelsea. Hiddink's managerial record isn't that impressive. Plus he's just off the back of flunking with Holland in the Euro 2016 qualifiers. Would have been better to keep Mourinho until the end of the season.
Report 1st time poster December 17, 2015 3:41 PM GMT
chelski would have better off in hindsight messing up last week going into eufa cup ,have a real go at winning that and qualifying for next years ch lg
Report geordie1956 December 17, 2015 3:42 PM GMT
nice little earner for Hiddink even if it is only short term
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 3:46 PM GMT
Although facing lower ranked opponents—Iceland, Czech Republic, Turkey, Latvia and Kazakhstan—the Netherlands had an awful qualifying campaign, losing both home and away against Iceland and Czech Republic, and away with Turkey with a resounding 3–0. Their fourth place in their group resulted in the Dutch being unable to qualify for the first time since UEFA Euro 1984.

Chelsea could go from bad to worse and get relegated this season.
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 3:48 PM GMT
I'm gonna back PSG to knock them out of the CL. That looks nailed on right now.
Report 1st time poster December 17, 2015 3:52 PM GMT
it will be a real eye opener to other chairmen,managers etc if this same squad now play like a top 4 side till the end of the season,frightening thought that as a squad as a whole can can turn it in on mass at an elite club,personaly think that theyve got some average players and a few who are past their best,hazard may get back to form under a new manager
Report 1st time poster December 17, 2015 3:53 PM GMT
people think manure players turned it in but in hindsight they just wernt upto it
Report rommel December 17, 2015 3:59 PM GMT
if the atmosphere/morale has been crappo with jm,his going might give them a massive bounce
Report rommel December 17, 2015 4:00 PM GMT
...ragardless of who takes over
Report casemoney December 17, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
A strange decision Plain
Report GoBallistic December 17, 2015 4:08 PM GMT
Strange that they left it so long
Report 1st time poster December 17, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
for all the gossip the only starter who,ll be glad to see him go is hazard,think the likes of terry,ibrov,fabregas,zouma,ramires are mouhrino,s men and costa has to many things going on to turn his form on at the flick of a switch,william is a starter now and playing well,which probably only leaves oscar,so the squad itself could now turn on hazard, imo
Report mafeking December 17, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
yep with being in the CL seemingly so important could have sacked him a couple of months ago when they still had some sort of realistic chance. seems almost pointless now
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 4:23 PM GMT
Just thrown £20 on Chelsea being relegated at 66/1.

Real Madrid    10 July 1998    24 February 1999    p34    w20    d4    l10    f74    a47    gd+27   

If Hiddink managed to lose 10 times in 34 games managing Real Madrid he surely stands a chance at getting Chelsea relegated.
Report Capt__F December 17, 2015 4:27 PM GMT
we can but pray
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 4:27 PM GMT
Netherlands    1 August 2014    30 June 2015    p10    w4    d1    l5    f20    a15    gd+5   

Look at his Netherlands record against the might of the likes of Kazhakstan, Latvia, Turkey. Shocked
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 4:29 PM GMT
He's another one like LVG living off former glories. Hiddink is 69 years old and past his sell by date. Chelsea are going down.
Report barstool December 17, 2015 4:33 PM GMT
What wonderful news. He and Gary Neville off the TV. There really is a Santa.HappyHappy
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 4:46 PM GMT
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich could be forced to pay Mourinho more than £40million in compensation, after the manager signed a four-year deal this summer. This is the second time Mourinho has been forced out of Stamford Bridge. His hugely successful first spell with the club ended under a cloud in 2007.

£40 million for getting sacked. Could buy lots of xmas presents with that.
Report Horangi. December 17, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
French outlet saying Hiddink has first shot, given 48 hours for a decision.  Logically think Ramos is a better option although I'm sure he would be unpopular because his name is only known in England for his time with Spurs.
Report OnePercenter December 17, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
Jose will be in Portugal by tonight where his father is recovering from brain surgery. A few weeks in the sun on £30k a day should restore his good spirits.
Report OnePercenter December 17, 2015 4:50 PM GMT
I don't think Jose gets £40m cash in hand. I think Chelsea top up whatever wages every month to whatever he was getting at Chelsea.

That being the case I would imagine his next port of call will be an Italian club.
Report BARNEY15C December 17, 2015 4:55 PM GMT
i DOUBT HE WILL BE FEELING THAT SPECIAL AFFECTION FOR CHELSEA HE HAS HAD IN THE PAST.
Report Westender December 17, 2015 4:57 PM GMT
As a Chelsea Fan, I am delighted that out club has got rid of this arrogant clown, his anti football and his antics which brought shame on the name of Chelsea FC.

The club should immediately reinstate Eva as she was treated by Jose like a bag of shyte and we need something good to look at on the pitch.
Report crystalhunt December 17, 2015 5:04 PM GMT
Don't know why Mourinho went there in the first place. Never go back - especially to a plastic club with plastic fans. Nobody likes them or ever will whatever they do.
Report Westender December 17, 2015 5:11 PM GMT
We don't care
Report TheBaron December 17, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
It looks like most players can only respond to Jose for a few seasons then they've had enough and if he can't get new ones in fast enough he's fcked.
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 5:18 PM GMT
He won the UEFA Cup (as it was then) and Champions League with Porto. Not many could dream of doing that.
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
Just looking at the salary's on line. Messi earns more than 1m Euros a week. Mourinho annual 18m Euro. I'm in the wrong job.
Report boosup December 17, 2015 5:31 PM GMT
Once the spine of Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba was all but lost, then this decline of CFC was there to be diagnosed; prognosis, no change: no matter the managerial appointment made and a continued bunfight against the drop into the Championship. Mind you, that's what this current crop of average players and fracked club policy deserve. I do acknowledge that in a further season's time this may well be an insult to the second tier.
Report Westender December 17, 2015 5:37 PM GMT
Is the above rant after sniffing knickers?
Report boosup December 17, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
no; nothing kickers throughout the set-up.
Report 1st time poster December 17, 2015 5:46 PM GMT
XMAS, new year,chelsea basicaly on hold till feb, can see a 69 yr old dutch failure causing just as many splits in the dressing room as jose
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
Agree, pathetic appointment with Hiddink. He should have been one of the last candidates on the list. Chelsea will struggle for the rest of the season.
Report unbiased December 17, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
One of the main reasons he can't get success in the second season is due to over achieving in the first season.As a life-long Chelsea fan I couldn't believe how easily we stormed the Prem. last season,without 11 top class players.
  What Jose achieved was fantastic,but what is happening now is also unbelievable.It appears the players can't take the pressure anymore,after doing too much last season.(Pre season games showed we were poor)
  The fault has to be with the players,but,at the same time,if they won't perform for him,then he had to go.
  Regards his rants at refs.,time-wasting ball-boys etc.,no way is he wrong.It isn't wrong to point out faults.Watch any game,anywhere,and supporters are calling the ref. names,due to poor decisions.The pundits are often wrong too,trying to tell us things are different from what we have seen with our own eyes.Yes,ALL clubs get wrong decisions,so why shouldn't they be pointed out?Refs. are human,not robots,they make mistakes,often costly,and don't believe they are "unbiased".Upset a ref.,and don't be surprised if he carries a chip.
He was honest,although many would disagree.Asked to rate the team's performance out of 10,he replied "minus1".He expected loyalty from his players and didn't get it,yet made them great last season.
Report unbiased December 17, 2015 6:05 PM GMT
When I saw Hiddink was 2/7 I thought,NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Relegation??
Report Westender December 17, 2015 6:07 PM GMT
Jose never recovered when that pair of knickers ran on the park against Swansea
Report anxious December 17, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
as they say the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world
Report PompeyMike December 17, 2015 6:21 PM GMT
He should have played Hazard, Oscar and Fabregas. Oh he did did he ? Sorry, I never noticed them.
Report a bitofinterest December 17, 2015 6:27 PM GMT
gone very quiet on the chelsea thread




AGAIN Blush
Report Loanwolf December 17, 2015 6:28 PM GMT
two ways of looking at the sacking-An absurd move by Chelsea-Chelsea are a team in decline its going to take time at least until the end of next season to turn Chelsea around. They need 4/5 players in key positions .Look at Utd  2 years ago Chelsea are in same position Its a different ball game than when Abramovich bought Chelsea.The only opposition for players then was Manchester Utd .Now there is Man City and Arsenal and when Tottenham and Liverpool complete the  rebuilding of their stadiums there will be much more competition for the very best players.Chelsea are out of sync with replacing players .If you have to replace 1/2 players you are in a virtuous circle  can cope but 4/5 is  impossible in the short term.

As for Mourinho he has exited at the right time.Why go down with a sinking Ship.He is very astute and always good entertainment with his after match comments.Expect regular  guest appearances on Sky Sport or BT Sport before he takes over at Utd in the summer
Report brassneck December 17, 2015 6:30 PM GMT
time for a pep talk.Wink
Report Far From Trouble December 17, 2015 6:34 PM GMT
Eva Carneiro 300/1 with Paddy Power
Report PBK December 17, 2015 8:13 PM GMT
Get Ranieri in. Laugh



Maybe Roman should of given him a chance in the first place, it was his team that Jose went on to win with Plain
Report stratfordman December 17, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
It will be Simeone in the summer

Think he'll fit right in with his bus parking tactics
Report maleuk01. December 17, 2015 11:05 PM GMT
why the feck did he cover his face as he was driven out the training ground?

everyone knows what he looks like.
Report YOMOMMA December 17, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
either laughing at 40million payoff or crying at being sacked.
Report curious-cat December 17, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
When Eden Hazard went down injured on the opening day of the Premier League season at home to Swansea City, towards the end of stoppage time, it was the prompt for all hell to break loose.

The Chelsea winger had been fouled by Ashley Williams and the Swansea captain was booked, but José Mourinho was clearly unhappy that his player had asked for the medics, who were promptly beckoned on by the referee, Michael Oliver.

“I was sure that Eden didn’t have a serious problem,” Mourinho said. “He had a knock and was very tired".
 
Had Hazard been able to continue for the final 90 seconds or so we might have been spared all that followed – chiefly, Mourinho’s eruption at Dr Eva Carneiro and the physiotherapist Jon Fearn, and the storm that ensued, which not only highlighted the manager’s anxieties but set the tone of volatility for the season.

Hazard, though, needed treatment. To Mourinho’s fury, Chelsea had to cope, briefly, with eight outfield players, after Thibaut Courtois’s earlier sending-off.

On Monday night at Leicester City, Hazard and Mourinho came full circle, as the club’s season scraped further at the bottom of the barrel. Hazard went down shortly after the midway point of the first half, following a challenge from Jamie Vardy, and this time he could not continue, even though he tried, briefly, to do so.

This time, Mourinho’s frustration was directly squared at Hazard. Vardy’s challenge did not look overly robust and when Hazard went to ground the Leicester striker gestured twice, with a dismissive flick of the hand, for him to get up. There was contact between Vardy’s leg and Hazard’s left hip and the Chelsea player landed on the hip.

When it was signalled to Mourinho that Hazard would have to come off, he reacted with a similar gesture to that of Vardy. Mourinho turned on his heels and walked back towards the bench. This was a night when he wanted warriors and what happened next made it clear that, at the time, he did not consider the Belgian to have a serious problem.

Mourinho had a short chat with him on the touchline and Hazard re-entered the fray. The manager was comfortable with him coming back on. Moments later, though, the ball came to Hazard, he winced, turned and headed straight off. It was impossible to ignore the dismissive gesture that Hazard made towards Mourinho as he departed.

The tension between the pair was laid bare in front of a global audience and if the Chelsea manager has struggled to inspire many of his players this season, the breakdown with Hazard has been arguably the most significant.

 
There have been times when Hazard has looked very good yet it has only been for tantalising flickers and the contrast to last season, when he was deciding games seemingly by himself, is one of the many staggering details to Chelsea’s implosion. Hazard finished last May with 19 goals and the player of the year trophies. He has yet to score this time round.
Report mafeking December 17, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
he isn't remotely close to being the best coach in world football. great managers play front foot football not sticking everyone behind the ball trying to nick games 1-0
Report rommel December 17, 2015 11:57 PM GMT
what happened to-the manager every one pf his players would go thru walls for,to this"palpable discord" scenario..which is really strong term from a high official at any club,the man needs help
Report rommel December 18, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
jeezus if he couldnt even say the mans name........Emenalo, who pointedly refused to use Mourinho’s name in an interview with the club’s in-house television channel, said: “The new contract signifies that what happened today was not a premeditated decision. It was a decision taken to protect the interests of the club. While there is huge sentiment for the individual, who has done so much for the club, the fact remains Chelsea football club is in trouble. The results have not been good.
Report Capt__F December 18, 2015 12:07 AM GMT
Drogba class takin the p1ss shirley
Report Coachbuster December 18, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
this situation wouldn't have happened to bacon face - Fabregas and the Crybaby would have had the boot chucked at them quite literally - and/or out on their ar5e
Report Racingqueen December 18, 2015 9:25 AM GMT
Its interesting mentioning Ferguson. One thing which was interesting about fergusons time at Utd was that he rarely if ever bought what you would class as a "Off the shelf" world class player. When he did it was an abysmal failure (Veron etc...) Even the more expensive players he bought (Van Nistlerooy, Ferdinand etc..) were young, came from smaller clubs and had something to prove.....

Inter was the perfect example where players who had won little in their careers to that date or had something to prove (Zannetti, Cambiasso, Sneijder etc...) all were in awe of Mourinho and played like wolves for him.

The biggest mistake Mourinho made was buying off the shelf players (Costa, Fabregas, Filipe) rather than developing players like De Bruyne, Lukaku

When the chips were down it was the players he bought from smaller clubs that stood up for Mourinho (Remy, Willian)
Report Pythagoras December 18, 2015 9:34 AM GMT
What this sorry tale shows is that high profile players now can rule the roost where once the manager and his assistant did. "Losing the derssing room" was not a phrase in football parlance till recently but now its all we ever here about at the time of a sacking. In all Fergie's time at Utd, Wenger at Arsenal and going right back to Clough, Shankly, Revie, Paisley, Busby etc. it would  have been unheard of for players to undermine their boss without being shown the door post haste. RVN, Keane, Stam, Beckham all being high profile examples at Utd.

Chelsea have had rebellion this year from Ivanovic, Fabregas, Costa, Hazard to name just a few and they are all still in and around the first team. Mourinho has reaped what he sowed. He tolerated this nonsense and then bleats about being betrayed right at the end. Anyone can see Costa is trouble as he delights in being niggly, picking fights with all and sundry and forgetting football. The bloke doesn't deserve to be called a professional and should be shown the door immediately, especially as his scoring record is no longer in any way a redeeming feature.
Report paulypaul December 18, 2015 9:37 AM GMT
Hazard and Dr Eva...Wait for the link Wink
Report sonofshinner December 18, 2015 9:39 AM GMT
will he sign on..or go on the sick.
Report Racingqueen December 18, 2015 9:41 AM GMT
spot on ^

Fabregas blamed the fans at Barca for him leaving. He was rumoured to be unpopular in the dressing room as well. Costa is a headcase. Hazard looks soft, the sort of player you would constantly have to tell him how great he is in order for him to perform. Hazard is massively over rated as well imho
Report OnePercenter December 18, 2015 9:44 AM GMT
Jose will be waking up to the Portuguese sun this morning. At £250k a week I'm guessing he makes more money going for a dump than most people on here make a day.
Report DIE LINKE December 18, 2015 10:04 AM GMT
If football forumers are only allowed to slag off people they earn more than we'd have to limit discussions to the Spartan South Midlands Football League
Report OnePercenter December 18, 2015 11:18 AM GMT
I'm not saying don't slag him off but people need to remember what he calls the sack most people on this planet would regard as winning the lottery. He'll learn and get over the experience very quickly.
Report Rugbyleaguer December 18, 2015 11:21 AM GMT
Clough, Shankly, Revie, Paisley, Busby etc. it would  have been unheard of for players to undermine their boss without being shown the door post haste

Clough lasted 44 days at Leeds as the players in Cloughs on words hated him and all but refused to play for him so he had to go, it has gone on before.
Report DIE LINKE December 18, 2015 11:35 AM GMT
I imagine most are happy to see Mourinho get his comeuppance because 1) Chelsea as a club as unpopular, 2) Mourinho is unpopular from a sporting point of view due to his bus parking despite the players at his disposal, 3) Mourinho is a unpopular from a personal point of view as he is a whinger and a boor.
Report DIE LINKE December 18, 2015 11:37 AM GMT
and of course 4) hanging the club doctor out to dry.
Report Pythagoras December 18, 2015 11:48 AM GMT
Clough was very idiosyncratic and you are right player power largely forced him out at Leeds but they were exceptional circumstances and, as you say, that was a 44 days stint in a 30 year managerial career. He basically told the Leeds players they were all thugs on his first day (most of them were!) and had been highly critical of Leeds for years before. He had many years holding a happy squad together at Derby and Forest, winning what is now the CL with Forest twice. Could any manager do that these days? Maybe Ranieri next year!
Report jollyswagman December 18, 2015 11:55 AM GMT
'the damned united', with michael sheen in the clough role, is a fantastic film of the great man's time at leeds.
Report YOMOMMA December 18, 2015 11:57 AM GMT
On Championship Manager, I won the treble with Yeovil Town.
Report OnePercenter December 18, 2015 12:14 PM GMT
Give Roman a bell, I'm sure he'll be interested.
Report johnizere December 18, 2015 3:30 PM GMT
Jose's got the job then?

http://www.walesoncraic.com/sacked-jose-mourinho-to-become-zumba-instructor-in-barry/
Report 1st time poster December 18, 2015 4:27 PM GMT
think the word betrayed has been well overblown all week,the man speaks in broken english and even said in his interview he wasnt sure it was the right word to use,imo he just meant to say that they didnt carry out on the pitch what he,d coached them to do in training sessions for the game but for sky the word betrayal was gold dust
Report YOMOMMA December 18, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
Yes Sky are a disgrace to sports reporting. That Jim White has to be right up there as one of biggest dickheads on the planet.
Report Wesdag December 18, 2015 4:46 PM GMT
Now it's all Sky's fault? LaughCrazy

Does the great Jose not take responsibility for anything?

You really couldn't make it up.
Report OnePercenter December 18, 2015 4:57 PM GMT
Jose is gifted at languages. If he said betrayed he knows what it means in English.
Report 1st time poster December 18, 2015 5:03 PM GMT
not saying jose is not prone to a bit of game playing and nudge,nudge with his interviews
but if you take the interview at face value its pretty obvious to me all he was saying was that his players let him and themselves down by not putting into practice what they,d worked on in training, something said by 3 or 4 coaches every sat night,only he no,s if it was meant as somenthing more general
Report Wesdag December 18, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
The man's gone, time to move on methinks.
Report Wesdag December 18, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
Will always be remembered as the best manager in your 12 year history.
Report OnePercenter December 18, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
Jose is not daft and he'll have all the prozone stats. He said his player betrayed him and judging by their recent fall from grace it must have been obvious to him, and Roman, that he was on a hiding to nothing.

No one sacks a coach of Jose's stature unless he has completely lost the dressing room.
Report Wesdag December 18, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
Believed far too much in his own publicity.

When they win it's down to him; when they lose it's down to the players.
Report clacton December 18, 2015 5:32 PM GMT
Lost the dressing room over the Doctor trouble. Why people keep trying to find other reasons is beyond me.
He was a disgrace.
Report DIE LINKE December 18, 2015 5:36 PM GMT
Seeing the doctor every day must have been galling considering his own missus looks like Arsene Wenger on crystal meth with a wig.
Report 1st time poster December 18, 2015 5:36 PM GMT
he may or may not have the dressing room,but i,d be amazed if theres anyone in that team who,s suddenly going to become a 20% better player over night, people keep saying he,s lost the players but other than hazard no one seems to no which ones,the 3 who,ve gone downhill the most seem to be jose,s biggest supporters looking from the outside,terry,ivan and ces,
Report Wesdag December 18, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
The Dr issue confirmed to the players what a scumbag he is.
Report clacton December 18, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
Dead right
Report 1st time poster December 18, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
hate to splatter a well discussed and decided theory
but they were shoite in pre season and alarm bells were ringing since last xmas,long before dr,dr was even heard off
Report clacton December 18, 2015 5:48 PM GMT
Lost one game from last 18 last season. Hardly bells ringing.
Report mafeking December 18, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
was a noticeable drop off in performance levels after xmas though. after the thrashing at white hart lane he seemed determined to go even more defensive if that was possible to make sure it didn't happen again
Report rommel December 18, 2015 6:26 PM GMT
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/18/jose-mourinho-failure-c...
Report Coachbuster December 18, 2015 7:05 PM GMT
'a bunch of hod carriers'  Grin
Report paulypaul December 18, 2015 9:33 PM GMT
The Dr was seeing to Hazard in more ways than one...It will all come out IMO.
Report PBK December 18, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
Plus a couple of others paulypaul !
Report rommel December 18, 2015 11:45 PM GMT
this is more than just a football thing yep....but what ever happened the amount of disrespect shown to Jose Morinho was unbelievable,shocking and maybe says more about chelsea than it does jm,he couldnt even bring himself to say jm's name and it was a quite deliberate act of spite in a prepared statement
Report Wesdag December 19, 2015 12:07 AM GMT
stop seething ffs
Report Autocue December 19, 2015 10:11 AM GMT
The ones who got him sacked will be playing for their jobs today. Coral offering 6/1 for Chelsea to beat Sunderland but only for £5.
Report spyker December 19, 2015 10:46 AM GMT
Last season the football pundits were calling this Chelsea side the best the Premier League has seen

Who did - got any links from anyone without club ties saying this?
Report YOMOMMA December 19, 2015 10:52 AM GMT
Lots of the football pundits on TV/motd did. They had discussions asking if the Chelsea team were the best ever and a lot of them said they were.
Report lybertyne December 19, 2015 11:27 AM GMT
How could they be better than the Invincibles?  They didn't even do the double.
Report rommel December 19, 2015 11:37 AM GMT
chels are the unrinsables
Report PBK December 19, 2015 4:13 PM GMT
Chelsea have always treated their managers like sh!t, for me started with Eddie McCreadie Sad
Report Autocue December 19, 2015 5:01 PM GMT
£30 early Christmas present. Thanks Mr Coral. Mind you the Sunderland pantomime on tour were also a gift for a Chelsea team that has been in disaray.
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