Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:03PM, mega88 wrote:
That's about 50 bets to make 12. This guy is on the wind up here.Think I've been had
That's the thing. A lot of people would be delighted with a £12 win each day, but they'd be bored to tears with doing it this way. Hence why this early post from dimebar is ridiculously condescending.
"The problem with most people on here is they are using the exchange as a sportsbook rather than a marketplace because that's what it is... a very nice marketplace full of opportunity and you're all missing it by using it as a sportsbook."
Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:03PM, mega88 wrote:
That's about 50 bets to make 12. This guy is on the wind up here.Think I've been had
Where did you get 50 bets from? it's 19 trades which is 19 bets unless you are counting each individual back and lay which I wouldn't because it's practically automated by the software and those trades took around 23 seconds to complete each.
And the £12.02 is irrelevant as it's scalable to stakes.
£3000 bank... 5% stakes... £150 staking = £60.10 profit
£6000 bank... 5% Stakes... £300 staking = £120.20 profit
It's scalable, the people focusing on the £12.02 are moronic and missing the real picture.
People also seem to be thinking my betfair balance is £100 and this is all I am doing too which is fine if that's how stupid you are but it isn't the reality and I'm making my standard bets/lays and scalping horses etc from my main balance and making "proper money" too lol just because I'm not documenting my entire finances on here you just assume...
There are a couple on here that actually know my standard figures and balance, the rest of you can just assume away because it's irrelevant to me, this thread is simply here to show you all think you know everything and talk a lot of sh1t whilst probably struggling to make a profit each day.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:27PM, gotitwrong- wrote:
10% profit per day would be a million quid by mid-March ?I think of all the challenges of this type , dimebar probably one of the most likely to succeed in making a accumulating a decent pot- not likely to win many popularity contests though
it would be if you were going to roll over the profit and use that bank each day as the new target but that isn't what a sensible trader would do... you won't be able to shift that amount through safely.
The aim is to grow it to a certain number then hold it there and use a flat bank each day, whatever is made above that is withdrawn.
Everyone always throws that same rubbish about being millionaire which is totally unrealistic
Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:27PM, gotitwrong- wrote:
10% profit per day would be a million quid by mid-March ?I think of all the challenges of this type , dimebar probably one of the most likely to succeed in making a accumulating a decent pot- not likely to win many popularity contests though
It would. And that's my point too.
There's no reason why anyone doing this can't make money consistently.
But there will always be setbacks and 10% a day is a ridiculously far-fetched target on that consistent basis. 10% on any given day is more than possible, consistently it's not.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:56PM, wisewords wrote:
do us all a favour and don't bother posting anymore of your aftertimed trades
You are upset it hasn't failed yet... sorry.
You do not have to open this thread you know.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 4:03PM, mega88 wrote:
That's about 50 bets to make 12. This guy is on the wind up here.Think I've been had
this is what I was talking about, that was the moronic because like I said it's relative to the stakes you can afford to put through the market.
The focus should purely be on the amount of trades you can successfully put through each day, the stake determines how much you can or cannot make.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 5:21PM, dimebar8 wrote:
Nov 4, 2015 -- 10:03PM, mega88 wrote:That's about 50 bets to make 12. This guy is on the wind up here.Think I've been hadthis is what I was talking about, that was the moronic because like I said it's relative to the stakes you can afford to put through the market.The focus should purely be on the amount of trades you can successfully put through each day, the stake determines how much you can or cannot make.
That's not entirely true.
On Champions League markets as you were, it's nearer the truth. But you try put 100s of pounds through a late night South American match on the o3.5 or o4.5 market. You simply won't manage it.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 5:24PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:
Nov 4, 2015 -- 11:21PM, dimebar8 wrote:Nov 4, 2015 -- 10:03PM, mega88 wrote:That's about 50 bets to make 12. This guy is on the wind up here.Think I've been hadthis is what I was talking about, that was the moronic because like I said it's relative to the stakes you can afford to put through the market.The focus should purely be on the amount of trades you can successfully put through each day, the stake determines how much you can or cannot make.That's not entirely true.On Champions League markets as you were, it's nearer the truth. But you try put 100s of pounds through a late night South American match on the o3.5 or o4.5 market. You simply won't manage it.
Yes but you would see that wasn't possible by seeing that the money isn't there so you wouldn't even attempt to... common sense isn't it?
Same goes for the person that was talking about someone plonking 5k in front of you, you just wait for that to dissipate before going in etc and for the record if you have entered a trade and then a 5k gets put in front of your exit point, you realise that won't stay until it's all matched unless the person staking that is willing to take bad value as the price everywhere else would have moved past and people would be able to Arb from that guy's "hold up" of the market elsewhere so that 5k generally gets pulled by the staker anyway which you see happening all the time, I saw it multiple times tonight in fact.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 6:11PM, anfeild wrote:
You are a ganster. Full stop. Im reporting you to betfair. And also this will go the police.
Nov 4, 2015 -- 7:06PM, anfeild wrote:
Dime can i just ask why your telling people you can make money. Why not keep it yourself. Because your trying to get investors. Only way. Your here for money. 10% a day u oxy joker.
Okay last reply because I can't sleep anyway.
I'm not showing people I can make money, I'm showing people a way THEY can make money on here in a different way to what most people would consider and obviously if I can demonstrate that it does make profit, even if it is just for me, then other people might be able to do the same with it or at least use it to steal a few £ here and there.
You are right to question the motives as to why post a thread if I'm making money, why would I bother? and my response to that is...
It's kind of like saying "I created a cure for cancer but I'll keep it for myself so I can cure myself and I'll just let the other people with cancer die even though I can help them out"
Obviously I'm not comparing this to curing cancer lol but that's the first analogy that came to my mind to explain why someone would even post something without any benefit to themselves because even if everyone that came and read this started doing it, it's not going to impact the markets in a noticable way or beneficial way to myself personally anyway like some people think.
And just to re-cap because the results are miles back up in the thread.
Day 1
Start Bank - £100
End Bank - £110.05
Trades - 7
Profit - £10.05
(10.05% of Bank)
Day 2
Start Bank - £110.05
End Bank - £122.07
Trades - 19
Profit - £12.02
(10.92% of Bank)
Nov 4, 2015 -- 8:42PM, ProSniper wrote:
dimebar8, why not record your daily trades(there's a ton of free screen recorders) before uploading to youtube, dailymotion or whatever? That would put an end to any aftertiming accusations, and would generally be far more interesting and informative. Particularly for any newbie interested in scalping/trading...
Because there are already people and videos out there doing it better than me and explaining things better than me and I don't mind the after-timing comments I find them to be just idiotic really.
If someone really wants to think and believe I'm going to sit there and type out a bunch of fake bet id's etc and fill out all the other info that goes with each of the results over a cr4p load of trades then they can think that all they want lol I have better ways to spend my time.
I do have fraps and shadowplay to record my screen and I actually make youtube videos but not anything related to gambling.
I'd rather just let the few that do want to be idiots and call after-timing and be pedantic to just do that.
It would actually be nice if a Betfair representative could come in here just to verify all those trades were made successfully to those people to shut them up but like I said I'm fine with them thinking whatever they like, I'm not here to prove myself to them.
I'll just document the trades at the end of each day, including the losses.
A part of me actually wants a goal to go against me during a trade just to show it and how I react to it and how it isn't such a big deal and I'd still most likely make profit that day like I did the days before I was documenting it when it happened to me.
What people don't understand is that you are in and out within 20 to 30 seconds per trade, then your out for a few minutes, then back in for 20 to 30 seconds again for the majority of trades unless you are going for a longer trade and more ticks.
To put this into perspective and something people can visualise to feel those odds of it going against them is to think of a roulette wheel.
If we are going in to trade on under 2.5 and the odds at kick off were below 2.0 then there are 2 goals expected to come in the game so our roulette wheel will have 45 slots on it, representing the minutes of a half of the game (90 / 2 = 45).
So we enter our first trade at minute 13, we spin the ball on the roulette wheel and let it spin for 5, 10, 20 seconds or so, if it falls into slot number 13 a goal is scored, if it falls into any of the other 44 slots, we successfully made our trade.
When you actually realise you are just gambling on the ball not going in the net for those 20 odd seconds it's just a no brainer in the sense of what is better, long term gambling on an event or short term 20 second in and outs throughout the game, cherry-picking when you enter and exit.
And also the fact we would pre-dominantly have a 2 goal cushion if it did go against us means we are not in any real danger of getting fcuked by it either, we can afford to take those hits because they will be few and far between.
Just over these 2 days I've made 26 trades for this thread so far, all successful. Many more I havent included on the horses etc too.
And this isn't something that's rare for me either I've always had a consistent strike rate in every method I've done even with my standard gambling my strike rate is high, I have had small patches of bad runs like every other but overall my strike rate is high but you can't tell people that on here because it's not believable to them so I don't even bother trying and I left the forum for 2 or 3 years because I had no business or use for it just a bunch of idiots basically (not all of you, there are some I have soft spots for) and I don't actually care at the end of the day, my strike rate and how well i do only matters to me because I'm the one that makes or loses the money so anything else would just be an ego thing which I really do not care about.
It's really not that hard to do this though, this is the least risky option there is when gambling and it's people's mindset that fcuks with them in my opinion, people add in all this extra cr4p into it that doesn't need to be there just because they are told and believe it has to be there like Mr Charlton stating if you are not taking advantageous odds that you WILL only ever break even which is just plain wrong and he stated it as fact when it's just a statistical probability, in fact I'd love to actually challenge that concept because if that were true then most people would break even and that just doesn't happen, majority will actually fail because they are going to take bad trades most likely without even realising they are doing it.
I'll be posting the daily results at the end of each day but other than that I'll mostly be doing my thing and avoiding silly arguments from now on.
Nov 5, 2015 -- 5:14AM, wisewords wrote:
it's all well and good sharing all your successful scalp bets and boasting like you're some sort of betting messiah. not long ago you were posting saying that this forum is all about ego and that's why you don't like coming on here. when infact, you're all about ego yourself. how about sharing some of your epic fail scalps for the sake of balance?
I will when they happen gladly.
Nov 5, 2015 -- 11:59AM, wisewords wrote:
I hadn't made any bets on goals. here you go again making assumptions about me. it's all in your mind pal
I really do not care and I'd like to keep this strictly to results from now on... good luck with all your future ventures and bets
Nov 5, 2015 -- 6:19PM, mega88 wrote:
tl;dr
it's okay mega to sum it up for you it just says:
Money and Boobies.