Liverpool must sack Rodger the dodger

kloppo in by xmas

the dodger wins in oz obviously all down to his fab tactics Ha ha ha

Its strange they didn't dump him for Klopp already.  Unless Klopp really told them he was unavailable due to wanting a sabbatical (which wasn't what he originally said) or more likely they talked to Klopp and couldn't come to terms.

Klopp will probably be better off as Liverpool will likely have to come back to him on their knees later this season.

By Christmas all Liverpool supporters will be on their knees but I hope I am wrong

PS there's a guy works down the chipshop swears he's Elvis and either one of them
Would be better than the carnlough dodger

not likely to be pray to baby jesus as its one big charity scam.

think rodgers is under serious threat if he plays 4-3-3.....needs to go to 4 wise men in the middle ino

Jul 21, 2015 -- 11:11PM, G1_Jockey_4 wrote:

not likely to be pray to baby jesus as its one big charity scam.think rodgers is under serious threat if he plays 4-3-3.....needs to go to 4 wise men in the middle ino

With his tactics he needs to play 12apostiles with jc as a sub

drop judas and stick jc in goal....jesus saves afterall

brenda must stay

and lets hope utd keep van gaal

louse van gallbladder is a slow burner....agent moyes was just a bit quick

tough early season fixtures for pool, by mid november they'll have played away to manc, manu, ars, chelsea, everton and spurs

spurs

Inew faces same old tactics one more new face needed. Taxi for the dodger

Same old mindless nonsense from the dodger

A moment of individual brilliance but otherwise the same one dimensional tactics

And bring in who?

And bring whom.  Surely?

The taxi driver who is outside blowing his horn
Seriously anyone

Koeman??????!

This was Stoke away from home tbf, even if it stayed 0-0. You can count on one hand how many home matches Stoke lose in a season. AND THEY WON. I have criticised him in the past but this is not an occasion for criticism.

Well said Texas.

Stoke ate hard to beat but the manner of the win must raise serious questions about the new team and same old rigid tactics

Sorry for spelling but just heard my daughter has given birth to my first grandson so am going to pub to toast a future Liverpool manager

One dimensional tactics? Who is this muppet ?Liverpool may be many things but under Rodgers one this they have never been is one dimensional .

I will just say this, If you offered me a scrape home one nil for Arsenal at the Brittania I would take into questions asked, and I would have to thing long before accepting or refusing even a 0-0 draw.  Today was an excellent result for Liverpool in my opinion.

No questions asked*

Good luck fella with the NHS I remember that I delivered my daughter on my own..

Just as well I can turn my hand to most things as the Health Service is staffed by wasters...

Brendan may change the formation a lot but he still plays 2 or 3 max creative players, today was a striker and coutinho, Lallana was not playing as an attacking midfielder.

BR looks like a man trying to save his job, keeper now humping it upfield, he didnt even do that at Reading.

IS. I don't understand your point at all. Ibe and Lallana wee both played as attacking midfielders but asked to defend. Exactly what you need to do at Stoke away. What would you have expected him to?

A man trying to save his job? The owners have backed him to the hilt this summer and assured him they believe in him. With all due respect. I think you have that totally wrong.

BR made tactical changes that helped us win the game. He deserves nothing but credit today.

He must eat himself before the week is out and that will save Liverpool paying him off...

He must be the only manager to have the whole back room staff sacked and remain in his post...

Not sure what is going on at that club..

Imagine Shankley (by the way a serial loser) being told to sack Paisley and Fagan..

What was all that about..

Before, BR would had wanted to take 3 points at Stoke, clearly the 6-1 had a part in but Stoke were awful today.

Ibe was played like someone who ran down the right, thats it. His end product was zilch, actually it was less than that. Nice young player though.

Lallana, not sure he was on the left.

If COutinho gets injured, Liverpool are in trouble.

I don't know where to start with any of that but I completely disagree.

I actually think Ibe is over rated. He's a decent prospect but not good enough to be a regular in the starting XI just yet. Ditto Lallana. So are toy criticising the Manager for picking him, or the Manage because he didn't play that well? When Sturridge is back and we revert to a diamond with him and Benteke up top, they will both be benched IMO.

It was Stoke away, first game of the season. Most teams are off the pace at this stage of the season. Rodgers tactics were to keep it tight, and maybe try and nick it. I don't think he would have been unhappy with 0-0. Which was exactly the right thing to do. We got a bit of luck and a moment of magic won all three points. He was spot on today.

Mentioning what could happen in the future is just guessing, and you actually agreed with me on at least 2 points, never mind.

Not criticising BR for picking them, he has no choice with Lallana as he has to back up his crap purchasing. Lallana is a floating player with no position, BR makes him defend. Not seen Lallana make a tackle yet.

Earlier you said BR made tactical changes to win the game, was that what inspired Coutinho to score when his number was up on the sidelines ?

lallana is always going to be sh1te in them sorts of games he's built like a kid, it actually baffles me as to how no one got at him earlier about his physique, he looks like he has never seen the inside of a gym.

firmino is an exciting prospect, benteke will thrive with more support.

we are all guessers, there are no guarantees with new players?

No the tactical change improved us immensely and stopped them targeting our left side. Coutinho was getting no joy through the middle as it was so congested. Can improved the tempo and offered much more than Milner did in that position.... Obviously the moment of brilliance wasn't down to Rogers' subs. But surely you would agree the game went much more in our favour after it?

I'm completely disagreeing with your criticism of Rodgers. I just can't see what you could criticise him for based on today's game?

Ibe does need more end product and whether he ever adds to this game is a complete guess, one thing is for sure if he doesn't produce there will be plenty of other options available and he won't be in the team.

I also disagree that Stoke were 'awful' today. They were very well organised and very physical as usual. And very tough to break down, as usual.

i would rather see Can start in these tough physical battles, he won't get intimidated, we did look better when he came on.

Can't Catch Me • August 9, 2015 9:40 PM BST
I don't know where to start with any of that but I completely disagree.

I actually think Ibe is over rated

disagree with that CCM

he certainly isn't overrated compared to sterling

and compared to markovic he looks like fe5kin messi

And as for guessing, you do a bit of that yourself no?

Hope you're right Rothko. Sterling is miles better for me. Just don't see what everyone sees in the lad yet myself. But he's young and strong and can hopefully keep improving.

he'll get in plenty, would be helped by more support in the box, he bombs off and there is usually no one in the box, he struggles to pick out a target at present.

I just worry he's getting too muscle bound
before the injury last season he was getting me out of my seat
Suarez  made sterlings career imo just like he has made Neymar look good

i wish he'd lend lallana some rothko

yes m8 its a fine balance could lend some to markovic as well

Thought stoke were really poor, didnt really threaten once, apart from the hoof upto the striker i didnt see anything promising, i expected more from Stoke. The first 15 mins when Liverpool players remembered the tactics they looked very good.

I actually rate Markovic

I dont dislike BR, i just think he is a very lucky man.

watching today thought what a team liverpool had when they fin 2nd todays team are not a patch on that team very slow the liverpool team of today

I disagree Rothko and think sterling will show how good he is this season.

Agree about Ibe's shape. Was up close to him today. He's like a bleedin' prop. Spot on se. Morphe him and Lallana and we might have a player.

stoke are a good side IS
just the first game of the season and you know what a lottery it is

Wont need to be as good as that team though Dr. That Liverpool would walk this league IMO.

ccm all the pace gone out of your team

I think Liverpool should get some credit for snuffing out Stokes attacking threat though IS.

As Rothko says nobody plays well first game.

sturridge
firmino

they are not slouches and neither is can

Stoke away from home is not a good barometer of how creative a team are imo, they have made stifling opposition an art form.

That was just today Dr. In a turgid game. Think you will see plenty of pace as we get going. Sturridge will help in that dept.

Ok CCM he might come good for City

Just think me and you could have played with suarez and probably got a move to citeh
best player Ive ever sen at Liverpool and I saw teh great teams live

Maybe true ccm, but stoke were sh1t. cant remember them attacking with any purpose.

i think you will be more solid will be top 6 wont challenge for the premiership

Can't argue with that mate. Best I've seen too. And made everyone around him look better. But playing with Silva and Aguero wont be too bad!

Top 6? Thats hardly a big call is it! I think we will be top four minimum this year. Maybe third.

oh no CCM are you the new RP

think we,ve got a miles better squad than last year and some good young players coming through
I,m really hopeful

Haha. Hope so mate. He proved us all wrong

Good to hear Rothko. Me too. More 13/14 then 14/15 IMO. Everyone makes out like last season was a disaster but it wasn't awful. And easy to see how we can improve a fair bit this year.

hope firmino gets half an hour next monday

*at least

not for me ccm i think you will draw a lot of games this season.  man city shocked they kept the manager but they should be favs my team have stood still in the transfer market and will pay the price as for man utd madness that they have not got in 2 defenders in

i've got a good gut feeling about him but it is a pure guess at this stage.

I would rather Liverpool broke up the top 4, but i have yet to Sturridge be anything other than injured without Saurez, Sterling is a miss.


Liverpool need creative central midfielder.

yes and me havent got the usual stevie g sh5te
Milner will be massive for us this year - need to wrap him up in cotton wool

Yep agree with that about the rest. Don't think any of last seasons top four have improved. And Utd have Europe to contend with this year.

Yep, not many teams improved apart from the ones below.

A creative midfielder would be nice IS. But that's not the way BR wants to play IMO. We didn't have one when we nearly won the league. With the attacking players we now have, I just don't see creativity bring a worry.

far far too early to be making any proper judgements

We created plenty last season. Just had nobody to put the chances away.

what did you think about Benteke CCM?
watching today think he might be a real asset at home when teams defend in numbers

not so sure away from home

I felt a bit sorry for him today Rothko as he didn't get much service and we didn't play to his strengths. But he was brilliant in the air and really impressed me with his feet and link up play. Had some really nice touches and was more spritelybon the bell then I expected. Think he is a great option to have. And a physical presence we have needed for ages. The team was too easy to bully last year.

Stoke results against the top teams last season at home.

Beat Arsenal.
Beaten by Chelsea.
Beat Liverpool.
Drew vs United.
Beaten by City
Beat Spurs.

The performance was hardly vintage but I think some on here are underestimating how good the final result was

i thought utd were p1ss poor yesterday for most of that game and arsenal have lost at home to west ham today.

the top 4 aren't nailed on but we need to put the so called lesser teams to the sword, early fcuk ups against too many of these last season killed it for us.

yes wasnt sure when we bought him

but more than happy for him to win me over

until i've seen us dispatch a few more of these i'll reserve judgement.

laters all.

I think the performances are almost completely irrelevant for the first few games Texas. All about the points. And to get points at one of the toughest grounds in the league is just an added bonus.

Couldn't believe how big Gomez is. He was basically a slightly stockier Benteke. He could make some CB.

yes love when i see a young player come through
he was due to go out om loan but when BR saw him there was no way

His sacking seems inevitable imo

Getting rid of his coaches was a half arsed compromise . They wouldn't have done it if they had faith in him , but weren't ready to actually fire him too.

I'd say he is about the stage Roy Evans was at start of 1998/99 season.

It's funny how people can see things so differently IMO. This summer said the exact opposite to me.

ccm as an aside to this,how do you view the appointment of hendo as captain.I like him as a player,great attitude,but imo he is a bit young and not exactly a leader well not yet anyway,just my opinion.

Good to revert back to 13/14 where every team we beat was awful.

And then there are the over-reactions to a performance. I thought we played ok. If the game was to be decided on points I'd say Stoke edged it but we defended well and had a true match winner in our line up.

The substitution of Can for Lallana was crucial in swinging the match in our favour. Not that the manager will get any credit for that from some.


I think I'd like to us try a more typical 4-3-3 next week. Can as the pivot with Milner and Henderson ahead in the channels, then Coutinho and Firmino supporting Benteke. Could be a bit narrow, but we have attacking full backs who can offer that (Moreno might me worth a game here) and there should be enough.

Already frightening to think who would miss out when Sturridge comes back.

Getting points on the board is what's important at the start of the season. Winning 3 points & keeping a clean sheet away to Stoke is something the expected title challengers would be delighted at, so no reason for us not to be happy too. Seem to remember us winning our first 3 league games 1-0 the season before last. We didn't play that well in any of those games but the performances grew as the season progressed. I'll be very satisfied with another 1-0 victory next Monday night.

Looking at tonight's team how much did ROGER THE dodger pay for this load of journey professionals does he think this lot will really win anything significant????

Champion's league or championship performance ???

The taxi is waiting its blowing its horn How much has the dodger wasted this year????????

Keep crusty lips in. Soooooooo funny watching their demise.