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Until they sort out their disgrace of a site their licence should be withdrawn

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By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 12 Apr 15 14:08
Agree
The whole site is like something from the nineties
And I don't trust them
Only use them till the kids pick up more of their buisness
By:
Westender
When: 12 Apr 15 14:40
kids?
By:
PugMunter1
When: 12 Apr 15 14:53
Until there is a viable alternative betfail will continue to treat their customers with the utmost contempt
By:
Rasiak9
When: 12 Apr 15 15:05
Yup. Betfair's constant screw-ups will not cost them one single customer.

And they know this. So they don't care.

Suck it up.
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 12 Apr 15 15:06
Kids...... Lads
Ipad spell check
By:
unbiased
When: 12 Apr 15 15:36
In response to the thread title,the comments don't hold up whatsoever,and are bang out of order.My betting partner and myself have been using Betfair since 2000 and have found it be an unbelievably good innovation,and were only discussing it  this morning,before reading this thread,how our betting would be without this site.The answer was unprintable!
  Every company gets a problem from time to time,whether betting,or anything else,that's life.
Virgin have had mast troubles,rendering numerous problems,as have had others.
   To suggest licence being removed is crazy.Yes,glitches causes a problem,as does any accident,life isn't always a smooth run,more often than not it's a roller coaster of a ride.
Be grateful that we have this site,and how useful it is,and what a brilliant idea.
  And yes,I did buy shares,so am happy to see the company grow.
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 12 Apr 15 16:20
Shambles can't even bet on utd city   They should be forced to double everybody's account balance.
Soon get a decent bit if software then
By:
pa lapsy
When: 12 Apr 15 16:32
Fuming, they had a "special" Utd to score more than Chelsea at 5/1,don't know what i,d have got on but thought it was a decent price. Site came back on just after Chelsea KO and special gone, what a shower.
By:
Westender
When: 12 Apr 15 16:40
The only problem unbiased is that nearly every customer knew there would be a site meltdown yesterday as it has happened for years. Why don't Betfair sort it out FFS.

Betfair need customers and 99% of customers don't need Betfair. The world survived before Betfair and it will when it has long gone.

People can and are either betting elsewhere or spending their money on other non betting activities.

Until Betfair realise the above then the business will continue to decline month by month.
By:
sugarfoot
When: 12 Apr 15 17:42
license is simply based on ability to pay, nothing to do with level of service
By:
sugarfoot
When: 12 Apr 15 17:44
site melted down in 2002 on GN day.  it didn't affect betfair then (when they actually had competitors) and it certainly doesn't matter now
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 12 Apr 15 17:52
No COMPETITION,NO PROBLEM .
By:
RioGrande
When: 12 Apr 15 19:44
absoulte poor effort from betfair, very big weekend in terms of betting and then gone **** it up
By:
unbiased
When: 12 Apr 15 20:38
Lot of anger on here,and false statements,like Betfair "continuing to go downhill."The reality is you could have bought Betfair shares a couple of years ago for under £8,and they are now listed at over £22!!!
I have lost count of the number of times I have gone into my bank,and they couldn't do any transactions due to the computers being down.As stated glitches can happen,and systems get overloaded,especially being more vulnerable on big days,that's life.
  Going overboard and running down the company is totally negative,and achieves nothing.There appears to be plenty of growth on sporting events,much against the claims of the moaners.
   Yes,life would go on without this site,but going back to ordinary betting would be a massive loss to all.It is not as if problems are self-made,it is something that just happens,and usually doesn't last too long.Have you guys never had a powercut,or a mains trip-out?
By:
PBK
When: 12 Apr 15 20:50
"The reality is you could have bought Betfair shares a couple of years ago for under £8,and they are now listed at over £22!!!



Well done unbiased a winner's a winner after all Wink
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 12 Apr 15 21:12
the truth is betfair is a very badly run company. what kind of betting exchange charges up to 6.5% commission and is unable to accomodate winning punters and slaps a nonsensical premium charge on them driving them away.
By:
PBK
When: 12 Apr 15 21:20
Unbiased there are some valid points being made on here.........time to cash out maybe Mischief
By:
unbiased
When: 12 Apr 15 21:26
Yomomma,do you know anybody that pays premium charge.If you do you will understand why it is levied on them,if you don't,then should find out why it was brought in.
Plus why do you claim that it" is a very badly run company",when you have no grounds to substantiate that,and public confidence is at all time high,as shown by the current share price.
  How many proper punters do you know of that don't regularly use this site,for either backing or laying,on any sport?
By:
unbiased
When: 12 Apr 15 21:28
PBK,why have the bet in the first place if you then feel it necessary to play safe,and lower your profit?If you know you are right,you stay in!
By:
PBK
When: 12 Apr 15 21:34
Good enough for Ray Winston it's good enough for me Wink
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 12 Apr 15 21:39
I'm on 21% total charges so don't bet with betfair anymore. I do not understand why I would have to pay it if I fell below 20%, please tell me.

It's a badly run company because they have gone from being a well respected betting exchange to a joke sportsbook. Share prices is bizarre but just shows how clueless the city is.

Finally no serious punters use betfair, why would they. All the big betting is done at Pinnacle and the Asian bookies.
By:
TheChaser
When: 12 Apr 15 22:35
unbiased they cant raise forever with so many £2 punters on here

no one use the sportsbook hardly, most bets you see posted on twitter facebook etc are hills and laddies
By:
Westender
When: 12 Apr 15 22:46
Good points Chaser

The Sportsbook will never be a serious competitor in a saturated bookmaking market and very few Exchange customers will be interested in the Betfair Sportsbook because of the poor value prices and the fact that winners are restricted to pennies.

Betfair needs to go back to growing the Exchange or it will die and all will be left is a 2 bob Sportsbook.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 12 Apr 15 23:45
I'm surprised you think people haven't the right to be angry Unbiased,if their money is tied up in markets and they cannot do anything to change their position(which is one of the main reasons people use the site),they lose and another extremely sorry it happened again does nothing for their pockets.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Apr 15 12:41
To quote you  Unbiased "every company gets a problem from time to time", well this is the next day and here we go again,is it fair on any one to have money tied up in a market and they are unable to do anything about it? Of course it isn't.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 13 Apr 15 12:43
unbiased is a shareholder so you can dismiss what he says, ironic username.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 13 Apr 15 13:51
What does Manchester City and Betfair have in common?

ANS) Both going down.
By:
duffy
When: 13 Apr 15 14:59
unbiased
     12 Apr 15 20:38

I have lost count of the number of times I have gone into my bank,and they couldn't do any transactions due to the computers being down.As stated glitches can happen,and systems get overloaded,especially being more vulnerable on big days,that's life

The difference with this though is when you are visiting your bank you are not in the process of trying to get your fix!!....we're all going cold turkey  that's the reason for the vitriol.
By:
puertabanus
When: 13 Apr 15 19:11
Very true- Virtual monopolies don´t feel answerable to anyone!
By:
stu
When: 14 Apr 15 10:12
Unbiased - just out of interest, as you're a shareholder - are you not concerned about the terrible impact on revenue with the site performance. Yesterday obviously the worst, but hardly a unique day either.

If days with NOTHING taken happen, plus losing custom so LESS taken, then this surely will impact on the supposed projections for making anything as a shareholder...or maybe they are cashing out??
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 14 Apr 15 10:43
not really site performance though is it.

didnt you know that stars also got targetted?


i hate betfair like most for what they have done to commission.
they deserved to be attacked but its not in their control if a person or group of people set up a system to spam their ip adresses to the point its slows everything down
By:
stu
When: 14 Apr 15 10:54
Hardly the only time the site gets naffed up though is it!??

Performance is a massive issue regardless of one specific problem - and even these attacks are not unpreventable (ask Google or any decent site).
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 14 Apr 15 11:01
google have bigger and fatter pipes but then they cost.....

would take a serious effort to bring them down...
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 14 Apr 15 11:03
imo i think soem players should have more than one method and certainly more than one site option.
purple has lower commision and is playable on the main markets.

if your stuck on lower markets then you havnt and option.

adapt or die imo
By:
stu
When: 14 Apr 15 11:04
It's pretty clear BF has one of the most unstable sites around.
By:
unbiased
When: 14 Apr 15 12:26
Stu,of course I am concerned,but some things unfortunately are uncontrollable.That is why I suggested a visit to Hammersmith in order to see how strong the organisation is,and to see how professional they are.I would imagine it could happen again,as there are some very malicious characters around.
  Many of your comments are assumptions,and not facts,like saying they don't care,when ,of course they do.Try to imagine how massive the set up has to be,in order to operate taking the millions of transactions that are placed.
By:
stu
When: 14 Apr 15 12:41
Fair comments, but it hinges on current and future turnover at the end of the day - you know liquidity has dropped, and it will continue that way if problems are not ironed out. How can revenue support this (IMO silly) share price and projections?
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 14 Apr 15 12:56
Shut up unbiased ya absolute tool of a man......the only reason you are allowed bet on this site is because you are losing your bawloxx....
If you were a winner they wouldnt tolerate you ....and i am not tolerating listening to you anymore either....
By:
unbiased
When: 14 Apr 15 13:41
Paulie,wash you mouth out with soap,and think before you answer.Yes,do me a favour,and don't listen to me anymore.Regards you stating that I am "losing my bawloxx",reminder that as this is an anonymous forum you know zilch about my betting performances,and even less about manners.
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