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azot
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ok i wasnt watching the start does anyone know whats going on ?
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Report themover March 27, 2015 10:11 PM GMT
Abandonments, Cancellations, Postponements
In relation to any match, fixture, game, individual event, race or similar: If the event is not completed within three days after the scheduled completion date, then all bets on markets for this event will be void, except for bets on any markets that have been unconditionally determined.
Report Thunder_struck March 27, 2015 10:12 PM GMT

Mar 27, 2015 -- 11:08PM, Scamp the man wrote:


Bets go to charity


LaughLaugh

Report neworder69 March 27, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
right...........cheers glad its not a bundle of money
Report Thunder_struck March 27, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
0:3 Russia
-3 pts Montenegro
3 home matches behind closed doors
financial fine
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
MATCH ABANDONED
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
laid the 0-0 at 3.15 so kind of glad im getting my money back after that pen miss
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
PUTIN CAUSING TROUBLE AGAIN IN EUROPE
Report zeal001 March 27, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
what happening now at the stadion? Is this game ended?
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
Was hard to tell whether the ref instructed the players off or whether the Russians walked...would be unusual for Russia to walk away from a conflict if they did Laugh
Report MillionaireMaker March 27, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
I had a acca that was waiting on Montenegro or the draw. 

So I put £130 on russia at 7/4 just before the pen....

My acca has been settled as a win, money in my account already.

Lost the £130 ?
Report ENRDCOCH March 27, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
I backed no 1st goal at HT have been paid out?!?
Report ENRDCOCH March 27, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
I backed no 1st goal at HT have been paid out?!?
Report appformat March 27, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
they decided to fight it out in the car park instead.....
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
STRIP RUSSIA OF HE 2018 WORLD CUP NOW AND GIVE IT TO ENGLAND
Report azot March 27, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
i layed 1-0 so i won ? havent got my money back..
Report ENRDCOCH March 27, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
Now they took money back.
Report appformat March 27, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
all bets will be void.
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed and Betfair believes that the match will not have been completed by 23:59 (local time) on its scheduled start date, then all markets, with the exception of any unconditionally determined markets, will be void unless Betfair has knowledge that the match has been rescheduled to be played within three days of its original start date.

wont be replayed so all bets that havent happened will be void
Report MrMeaner March 27, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
Oh those Russians....
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
the stadium announcer said the match was abandoned after the fight on the pitch
Report Darlo Bantam March 27, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
Abandoned because of the Montenegran fans apparently.
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
MATCH HAS BEEN ABANDONED

ONLY SETTLED BETS LIKE HT MARKETS WILL STAND AS THEY ARE ALREADY PAID OUT

ALL OTHERS WILL BE VOID
Report meltdown March 27, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
I had penalty award to Russia at 12/1 it got settled instantly
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
Russia could be awarded the match if it's decided it was the Montengro fans fault
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
any news on Russian tank movements yet?
Report MillionaireMaker March 27, 2015 10:23 PM GMT
Are the exchange and the sportsbook rules the same ?
Report kirilkach March 27, 2015 10:23 PM GMT

Mar 27, 2015 -- 11:15PM, The Special One™ wrote:


PUTIN CAUSING TROUBLE AGAIN IN EUROPE


You are so stupid

Report Marius5a March 27, 2015 10:23 PM GMT

Mar 27, 2015 -- 11:16PM, themover wrote:


Was hard to tell whether the ref instructed the players off or whether the Russians walked...would be unusual for Russia to walk away from a conflict if they did


they ran away with their tail between the legs after realizing they werent going to win the game

Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
This match has now been abandoned. We are in the process of voiding markets, except for first half markets which were already determined.


yipppppppe
Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
Had backed €140 on Russia, right before the penalty. Still havent received money back, but I think betfair will declare all bets void. Don´t really think it is fair to have money tied up in a game for a long period of time even if they do decide to reschedule the game for another day...
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
Fixtures 27 March / Montenegro v Russia / Over 1.5 Flares 4811699383827-Mar-15
21:51  2.12

Cry
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:28 PM GMT

Mar 27, 2015 -- 11:21PM, The Special One™ wrote:


MATCH HAS BEEN ABANDONEDONLY SETTLED BETS LIKE HT MARKETS WILL STAND AS THEY ARE ALREADY PAID OUTALL OTHERS WILL BE VOID


Yes i already posted that:

The Special One • March 27, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
MATCH HAS BEEN ABANDONED

ONLY SETTLED BETS LIKE HT MARKETS WILL STAND AS THEY ARE ALREADY PAID OUT

ALL OTHERS WILL BE VOID

Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
the above line is on the website
Report azot March 27, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
i wonder what they gonna do there is no point in playing 20 mins or there is ? probably russians will get 3 points.?
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
will be UEFA decision
Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
What about multiples that involve Russia? What happens to those bets?
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:32 PM GMT
chairmans lunch
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
if its a treble it becomes a double
Report themover March 27, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
UEFA will probably award match to Russia
Report Scamp the man March 27, 2015 10:41 PM GMT
Putin will decide the result .
Report marychain1 March 27, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
Russia to invade Montenegro in the morning.
Report azot March 27, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
it says that someone threw a knife at kombarov
Report blobbies March 27, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
I had Russia in the last leg of a 4 timer....anyone knows what happens with my bet?
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
Tanks and missile launchers on their way to UEFA HQ now
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
becomes a treble, i think ive used all my luck up today got out of the russia game by a void & icelandic game had a 95th minute goal, so im stopping these crazy bets
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
luck has got to run out sooner rather than later
Report blobbies March 27, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
if it becomes a treble....maybe my luck is about to change for the better!!
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 10:54 PM GMT
was gonna lay the 1-0 in the canada game but not in play so got away with that, i think ive won like 12/14 bets today so gonna withdraw & leave a little bit in, not often i win that much
Report Darlo Bantam March 27, 2015 10:55 PM GMT
Probably wise. I tend to get over-confident after a good run.
Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
If UEFA awards the victory to Russia, shouldn´t my back on Russia be valid? and the multiples as well?
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:08 PM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:02AM, Bagulho wrote:


If UEFA awards the victory to Russia, shouldn´t my back on Russia be valid? and the multiples as well?


Not 100% on this but if UEFA decide that in 3 days then yes, if they take longer than that then i think BF will void the bet, but check the BF rules for abandoned matches

Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
That would be amazing! UEFA to award Russia with the victory I would win the in market backing of Russia, and the a series of multiples ;P (hoping UEFA does this)
Report marychain1 March 27, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
I'm pretty sure the game will be classed as either void or a draw even if UEFA do award Russia the points
Report Darlo Bantam March 27, 2015 11:17 PM GMT
Void. Match bets refer to 90 minutes and not subsequent decisions.
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
I think by BF rules the only way it wont be voided is if its replayed within 3 days, irrespective of what UEFA decide, so if its not replayed in 3 days and UEFA award Russia the win then bets will be void!, not 100% on this so check BF void tules
Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
Can´t be classified as a draw if UEFA awards the victory to Russia, at most Betfair can declare bets void.
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
Can I just ask, can somebody please tell me that if I layed the draw in the 50th minute for £50 to odds 2.18 and when the game was interrupted the draw odds had gone down to 1.84. Will I lose the difference in the odds there, like losing like £20 and only receive £30 back from betfair? Or will I receive my initial lay bet that was £50? This is the first time something like this ever happens to me. Thanks for your help!
Report Bagulho March 27, 2015 11:20 PM GMT
If declared void, you will get your initial bet back...
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
if it had got to 70 mins would probably have been settled as draw..under 70 mins and UEFA will step in, imho
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
match will be void for betting purposes but 0-3 awarded to Russia I would say
Report blobbies March 27, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
think it got to about 68 then Russia got a penalty
Report blobbies March 27, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
and missed !!!
Report Budget March 27, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
Just read the rules. Betfair will payout on the decision of governing body.
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:26 PM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:19AM, petermans23 wrote:


Can I just ask, can somebody please tell me that if I layed the draw in the 50th minute for £50 to odds 2.18 and when the game was interrupted the draw odds had gone down to 1.84. Will I lose the difference in the odds there, like losing like £20 and only receive £30 back from betfair? Or will I receive my initial lay bet that was £50? This is the first time something like this ever happens to me. Thanks for your help!


If the match isnt voided you will get what price your bet was matched at

Thats if UEFA award one team the win and BF goes by that and honours it! so pray!

Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
Thanks for your answer Bagulho and themover!
Well the penalty was given in the 66th minute I think. And then after that the riot started! So a couple of minute perhaps had gone until he took the missed penalty and all things around. So if the game was interrupted just before 70 minute or at 70 minute is for me hard to say. Anybody know when the game was stopped?
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
doesnt anyone read the help pages on betfair, all bets are void apart from ones that have happened already, its plain english, dont know why people are debating it
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:27 PM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:26AM, jajabink wrote:


doesnt anyone read the help pages on betfair, all bets are void apart from ones that have happened already, its plain english, dont know why people are debating it


so how many points does each country get for qualifying purposes? tia

Report Budget March 27, 2015 11:28 PM GMT
In relation to any tournament, competition or similar: If the event is not completed within three days after the scheduled completion date, then any markets relating to the event will be settled in accordance with the official ruling of the relevant governing body, providing such a decision is given within 90 days after the scheduled completion date. If no official ruling is announced in this 90 day period, then bets on any market relating to this event will be void, except for bets on any markets which have been unconditionally determined. If a market is to be voided but has been part-settled as a courtesy to Betfair customers, then such part-settled bets will be reversed and all bets on the market will be void.
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:28 PM GMT
Grin
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
So jajabrink if the game will be declared 3-0 for russia which is the most likely scenario, will we get our initial bet back? Or what price my lay bet was matched at?
Thanks for your help!
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
Laugh
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
They wont award a score, they will award the result to one team or make them replay it behind closed doors or at a neutral venue
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
if Russia do get awarded it 0-3, I had Kannunikov as an anytime goalscorer...will one of the goals be awarded to him?
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
doesnt matter what uefa decide on the result, betfair have already said all bets void apart from ones that have happened already, is someone taking the mickey here, it isnt hard
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:32 PM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:31AM, jajabink wrote:


doesnt matter what uefa decide on the result, betfair have already said all bets void apart from ones that have happened already, is someone taking the mickey here, it isnt hard


Wont be voided if UEFA make them replay it within 3 days

Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:35 PM GMT
Ok The Special One!
Since this is the first time for me and I have no clue what so ever what that means in practice, does it mean that we will get our initial bet back, in my case the £50 I layed the draw on in the 50th minute?
Or do I get the difference between the odds 2.18 I layed the £50 at and the odds at 1.84 which was the draw odds when the game was interrupted?
Would very much appreciate if you could just walk me through this!
And also will the money be given back after 48 hours or longer?
Once again thanks!
Report jajabink March 27, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
oh my god, it really isnt hard,  This match has now been abandoned. We are in the process of voiding markets, except for first half markets which were already determined. We are aware that some bets on Match Result and Under/Over 0.5 goals have been settled as a loser in error, these will be voided as soon as possible.

that is it from betfair ,stop asking
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:37 PM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:35AM, petermans23 wrote:


Ok The Special One!Since this is the first time for me and I have no clue what so ever what that means in practice, does it mean that we will get our initial bet back, in my case the £50 I layed the draw on in the 50th minute?Or do I get the difference between the odds 2.18 I layed the £50 at and the odds at 1.84 which was the draw odds when the game was interrupted?Would very much appreciate if you could just walk me through this!And also will the money be given back after 48 hours or longer?Once again thanks!


dont panic, with your lay the draw bet you wont lose your stake, it will just be returned if bet is voided

only way you can lose is if UEFA award a draw, or UEFA make them replay it within the next 3 days and result ends up a draw

If you win you will win at what price your bet was matched at which was 2.18

You cant win a bet at 1.84 where you ddint have a bet "matched"

Report themover March 27, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
Laugh
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
I think the chances that UEFA will make them replay the game after all that weird things happening at Montenegro must be very small, less than 1%. I believe they will award Russia the win with 3-0. I would bet on that one but probably very low odds on that one.
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
suspend monkey needs to sort it out, markets have been suspended since the 70th minute
Report The Special One™ March 27, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
Normally when a match is abandoned BF wait for 3 days BEFORE VOIDING markets, to see if match is replayed or governing body awards a result, so you wont get your stake back for at least 3 days, unless they have changed this 3-day rule now
Report BARNEY15C March 27, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
Nasty - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKJTxlvqXAs
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:44 PM GMT
Thanks The Special One!
I very much appreciate your clear explanation. Now I think I do understand this for the first time!
I hope you also will get your money back.
By the way how did you like that penalty? I was very sure he would miss that penalty when the camera had a close up on his face. There were zero confidence in that face expression. He knew already before he shot that penalty that there were too much on stake and so therefore the pressure were to high. That´s my thought anyway.
As a contrast you could see on Zlatan Ibrahimovic that when he stepped up to the penalty spot in the 85th minute for Sweden it was 99% certain that he would score and he did. Body language and facial expression says it all even the smallest details.
Have a continuing nice evening and once again thanks for your help!
Report themover March 27, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
no sign of the players coming back out, getting bored with this feed now
Report ENRDCOCH March 27, 2015 11:54 PM GMT
petermans23 ****g funny you Blush
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
themover, did you expect them to come out again on the field and finnish the game? Honestly? You have got to be kidding! Yes I think you are. Happy
Report petermans23 March 27, 2015 11:56 PM GMT
ENRDCOCH, what do mean by that? Please explain!
Report ENRDCOCH March 27, 2015 11:57 PM GMT
Expression on his face! Jajajajaja
Report petermans23 March 28, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
Of course you can see that very often before they take the all mighty penalty! I am sure I could read your face too before you shoot it low in the left corner with no chance for the goalie. Great left foot by the way! Very impressive ENRDOCH!
You just have to change your football boots more often! Good luck with all that and all your future bets her on Betfair! We are many here who look up to you! Happy
Report EricGatesUglyBrother March 28, 2015 12:19 AM GMT
Eastern European football is so corrupt, they are giving the italians a run for their money now! The russian probably had money on the draw as well.
Report themover March 28, 2015 12:30 AM GMT
The UEFA EURO 2016 qualifying match between Montenegro and Russia was abandoned in the 67th minute following crowd disturbances at the Gradski Stadion in Podgorica.

In the first minute of the Group G fixture, Russia goalkeeper Igor Akinfeev appeared to be struck by an object thrown from the crowd. He was subsequently carried off the field on a stretcher and the referee took the players off for a first time.

Play resumed after a 33-minute delay and there was no score at half-time. The start of the second half was delayed by 18 minutes due to further disturbances and the match was abandoned in the 67th minute, shortly after Russia's Roman Shirokov had a penalty saved by Vukašin Poleksić.

UEFA will wait to receive reports from the delegate and referee to open disciplinary proceedings.

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http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/qualifiers/season=2016/matches/round=2000446/match=2013926/
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Report MillionaireMaker March 28, 2015 1:26 AM GMT
The penalty decision was ridiculous anyway! Not surprised it kicked off
Report marychain1 March 28, 2015 1:35 AM GMT
As Brian Moore said in the 70s as a riot was happening, "The crowd have gone mad. And they've every right to go mad"
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 28, 2015 9:20 AM GMT
They have to deduct 3 points from Montenegro.  The circumstances much worse than the precedent was set from the Serbia v Albania game.
Report Dutcher March 28, 2015 9:26 AM GMT

Mar 28, 2015 -- 12:32AM, The Special One™ wrote:


Mar 27, 2015 -- 11:31PM, jajabink wrote:doesnt matter what uefa decide on the result, betfair have already said all bets void apart from ones that have happened already, is someone taking the mickey here, it isnt hardWont be voided if UEFA make them replay it within 3 days


Russia have to play on thuesday. So uefa will never let this play within 3 days.

Report meltdown March 28, 2015 10:05 AM GMT
apparently its been played today
Report Dutcher March 28, 2015 10:33 AM GMT
The money is paid back by betfair. :)
Report meltdown March 28, 2015 10:47 AM GMT
i have been paid now. all seems settled, and a fan died last night
Report get in there gamsty! March 28, 2015 10:57 AM GMT
any idea how it will effect multis?
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