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Can't see many goals in this game tonight! Under 2.5 goals @ 2.1 seems good value here!
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When United saints go marching in.
I want to be in their numbers even though not united fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLjbMBpGDA
I want to be in their numbers even though not united fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLjbMBpGDA
Keown isn't alone though. It's nothing new BBC commentators not knowing the rules. It's rare to find one that's even bothered to read the handball rule, and some of them (mentioning no names Connor McNamara) don't even know that you are offside or not at the moment the ball is played, not at some point after that when it then deflects off a defender playing you onside.
"no choice but to give that" its sickening listening to this
keown has made a right fool of himself tonight
Sorry asparagus, it isn't about whether Rooney tried to distract the keeper. Intent is not mentioned in this section of the law. It's whether the keeper was deceived or distracted by Rooney's movement. He clearly was.
leading 2-1 at Preston and Rooney dives for the 3rd, games fooked
Kai Wayne @KaiWayne 13m13 minutes ago
Poor Martin Keown. Sounds devastated. Wait until he gets home and looks in the mirror and remembers that his face is inside out.
Poor Martin Keown. Sounds devastated. Wait until he gets home and looks in the mirror and remembers that his face is inside out.
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https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Martin%20Keown%22&src=tren
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Martin%20Keown%22&src=tren
'I'm not sure if he catches Rooney there but once he goes past him he has no choice but to go down'
Keown will be lucky to get another gig after this show..
was supposed to geton 1-3 at 85mins but my bro distracted me
marychain, i can assure you that your interpretation is wrong. Just standing there is not classed as a distraction.
had to dive
No wonder Man Utd are hated in England, David v Goliath and the bloody BBC want Goliath to win
No wonder Man Utd are hated in England, David v Goliath and the bloody BBC want Goliath to win
did he not move there asparagus or did he get Scotty to beam him there?
Rooney's only movement is away from the ball (and the keeper) so that wouldn't be classed as a distraction eirther.
for what its worth
i thought rooney was not offside
felaini fouled the defender
rooney dived
davies should have had 2 yellows
who would be a ref ?
i thought rooney was not offside
felaini fouled the defender
rooney dived
davies should have had 2 yellows
who would be a ref ?
"It was a dive, but it had to be a penalty"- Martin Keown
rooney really clever, fabulous professional. = Clear offside and diver
Feb 16, 2015 -- 9:37PM, asparagus wrote:
marychain, i can assure you that your interpretation is wrong. Just standing there is not classed as a distraction.
He wasn't just standing there - he had to move or the ball would have hit him, this has affected the keeper. Of course its offside.
Rooney a fabulous professional according to Hodgson 
Donny Osmond, you're right. Who would be a ref? So often you get slaughtered whatever you do.
They need man u / rooney hype for the billion dollar roadshow
asparagus, you can try and twist words all you want, but the reality is that the keeper would easily have saved a tame shot had he not been distracted by Rooney's presence. Anyone who has reffed or played the game at all at an level can see that, and the law agrees.
It's off.
It's off.
1.01 they won't say Rooney dived when they analyse it
They have had time to see twitter and reflect on rules, so will be interesting what they say
asparagus
dont get me wrong, i often have a go at them
but they were 3 tough decisions in real time
we are still arguing now so video replay doesnt help
dont get me wrong, i often have a go at them
but they were 3 tough decisions in real time
we are still arguing now so video replay doesnt help
unbelievably BBC are still discussing impeding his vision!
Marychain, it's not about twisting the words. It's about getting the decision correct. Playing the game has no relevance as the laws and interpretation change all the time. That's why so many ex pro's get things wrong.
Donny, i agree again. Video replays are not the way forward for me as it will make the arguments and accusation of bias even greater. The offside one is factually correct though. The others could be debated.
rooney dived cause tahts what you want from your striker in that situation ,he must exploit it
football has been fcking around with the offside rule so much that now its clouded ,for me if you are on the pitch you are interfering with play but now standing between ball striker and keeper you are not interfering .
use a vid panel or use technology ,game is too fast for human eye ,seen some shockers in Germany over the w/end
football has been fcking around with the offside rule so much that now its clouded ,for me if you are on the pitch you are interfering with play but now standing between ball striker and keeper you are not interfering .
use a vid panel or use technology ,game is too fast for human eye ,seen some shockers in Germany over the w/end
Well said Kilbane, the other 2 clowns are a disgrace. Evasive action isn't jumping then sliding you're foot along to feign contact.
pens soon be given if a player has to jump out the way to avoid a tackle
jumped out of the way after the challenge
well done KK
well done KK
must be the worst commentary team I've seen in a long long time, never heard so much sh1t in one match
wd woy on the draw
he does look more like an owl every time i see him!
he does look more like an owl every time i see him!
It's simple, read the laws. Does Rooney distract his opponent? Yes. He's offside then.
keepo expecting him to be devouring a mouse when the camera flicks on him unexpectedly
rooney is not offside unless he touches the ball.the wig gave the defender a nudge and the goal keeper came out in leg breaking style gave the ref an easy decision'
haha bbc2, you could make the next bbc commentary team
pundits should do better than that
fair enough hogson doesnt want to upset rooney, but dear oh dear oh dear
fair enough hogson doesnt want to upset rooney, but dear oh dear oh dear
Rooney doesn't distract the opponent. You make think the keeper gets distracted but Rooney does not do anything to distract him.
the rules are written for offside rooney was not offside.
a) It was a bad tackle. CORRECT
b) Rooney had to jump out of the way. CORRECT
c) His momentum was impeded so a penalty. CORRECT
d) Rooney had to fall on the floor. WRONG
What would have been really interesting would be if Rooney had jumped out the way, but landed on his feet and his momentum stopped. IF the referee didnt give a penalty at that point then, there would be no onus on players not to dive.
It could have been a huge development for football in this country if the above scenario with Rooney not diving, and simply hurdling but staying on his feet and the penalty being awarded, had happened.
No doubt Sky etc will smash the living daylights out of the oh so boring word 'controversial'.
b) Rooney had to jump out of the way. CORRECT
c) His momentum was impeded so a penalty. CORRECT
d) Rooney had to fall on the floor. WRONG
What would have been really interesting would be if Rooney had jumped out the way, but landed on his feet and his momentum stopped. IF the referee didnt give a penalty at that point then, there would be no onus on players not to dive.
It could have been a huge development for football in this country if the above scenario with Rooney not diving, and simply hurdling but staying on his feet and the penalty being awarded, had happened.
No doubt Sky etc will smash the living daylights out of the oh so boring word 'controversial'.
Shameful scenes. Phil Neville 'a leg breaker' Classic dive and this w@nker and Keown should never work in football, ever! Woy Hodgson, complete dinosaur who wears Wayne Wooney pyjamas.
Lineker struggling to keep a straight face. All 3 Utd goals should not have been, yet they make out cheating to beat Preston is the epitomy of world class talent.
What a bunch of cheating, diving ****s.
Classic dive and this w@nker and Keown should never work in football, ever! Woy Hodgson, complete dinosaur who wears Wayne Wooney pyjamas. Lineker struggling to keep a straight face. All 3 Utd goals should not have been, yet they make out cheating to beat Preston is the epitomy of world class talent.
What a bunch of cheating, diving ****s.
Donny, you can expect Phil Neville to take a different line on Rooney but realistically there is no way Hodgson can say on tv that his England Captain dived. The press would go to town on it.
Interfering with an opponent
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.
the goalie should know rooney cant play ball because then he would be offside
so shouldnt be distracted
so shouldnt be distracted
i've never heard the rule that diving over a challenge is a pen cos it stopped your momentum
NEVER
NEVER
Feb 16, 2015 -- 9:56PM, stridingedge wrote:
i've never heard the rule that diving over a challenge is a pen cos it stopped your momentumNEVER
me neither
He effectively got a pen for tripping over his own feet
exactly asparagus, perhaps hogson should decline the punditry until he gives up managing england
used to be intent but reckless challenge is the word ,he was impeded but in actually fact the ball was too far in front ,
was it a foul anywhere else on pitch ? yes imo ...maybe
was it a foul anywhere else on pitch ? yes imo ...maybe
job done anyway ...preston were 2.12 
at 1-0
a few done their brains here imo
at 1-0 a few done their brains here imo
You seem to have the same problem with the media and Man Utd in England that we have in Scotland with Rangers - they're desperate for them to be successful no matter what they do.
Donny, yes he probably should. He probably had to do the draw but maybe shouldn't get involved after the game.
Feb 16, 2015 -- 8:47PM, themover wrote:
Phil Dowd just letting Rooney know what he can do to help this half
it was sorted at the start of the second half
The bbc coverage tonight has been an absolute shambles. Shocking punditry, crappy guests, pointless interviews, terrible analysis. They just thought they could turn up and wing it. They don't deserve live sport.
True x 2. Disgrace. We, the license payers are paying for that drivel and lining the pockets of ex players who do't even have a clue about the laws of the game.
Who gives a s*** if it was offside, it was s*** defending
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