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Manager Ronny Deila is unimpressed with the Champions League qualifying format which requires Celtic to negotiate three rounds to reach the group stage.
The Scottish champions, who reached the last 16 in 2013, are aiming for a third consecutive season in the group phase.
However, Scotland are ranked 23rd in Europe by Uefa's coefficient system.
"Celtic don't deserve to have three rounds before going into the Champions League groups," said Deila ahead of the opening qualifier in Iceland.
“It's very unfair that going to the last 16, as we did two years ago, is not going to be recognised”
Ronny Deila Celtic boss
"Celtic have been fighting for many years with the best teams in Europe and it is stupid that the Scottish coefficient is not regarded as good enough.
"It should be more about the clubs. I knew before I came here that we had three qualifying rounds.
"That's wrong because you have to take into consideration the club, not the country.
"We need the biggest clubs in the Champions League, who have deserved it of course.
"It's very unfair that going to the last 16, as we did two years ago, is not going to be recognised."
Deila's side take on KR Reykjavik in the second qualifying round of Europe's premier club competition and it will be the Norwegian's first competitive match since his switch from Stromsgodset to replace Neil Lennon.
"This is a very big club with fantastic history," he added.
"Celtic in the Champions League sounds good, it sounds like a good relationship.
"But it's a problem in every small country. We maybe have one good team but the other ones are dragging that team down. I think especially here, when you have a big team like Celtic that has done so well, they should have a shot at the group stages right away.
"Some countries have three or four teams going in and I think that is not right."
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Ah Diddums!!!! maybe you should've thought of that when you voted to devalue your league.
Manager Ronny Deila is unimpressed with the Champions League qualifying format which requires Celtic to negotiate three rounds to reach the group stage.
The Scottish champions, who reached the last 16 in 2013, are aiming for a third consecutive season in the group phase.
However, Scotland are ranked 23rd in Europe by Uefa's coefficient system.
"Celtic don't deserve to have three rounds before going into the Champions League groups," said Deila ahead of the opening qualifier in Iceland.
“It's very unfair that going to the last 16, as we did two years ago, is not going to be recognised”
Ronny Deila Celtic boss
"Celtic have been fighting for many years with the best teams in Europe and it is stupid that the Scottish coefficient is not regarded as good enough.
"It should be more about the clubs. I knew before I came here that we had three qualifying rounds.
"That's wrong because you have to take into consideration the club, not the country.
"We need the biggest clubs in the Champions League, who have deserved it of course.
"It's very unfair that going to the last 16, as we did two years ago, is not going to be recognised."
Deila's side take on KR Reykjavik in the second qualifying round of Europe's premier club competition and it will be the Norwegian's first competitive match since his switch from Stromsgodset to replace Neil Lennon.
"This is a very big club with fantastic history," he added.
"Celtic in the Champions League sounds good, it sounds like a good relationship.
"But it's a problem in every small country. We maybe have one good team but the other ones are dragging that team down. I think especially here, when you have a big team like Celtic that has done so well, they should have a shot at the group stages right away.
"Some countries have three or four teams going in and I think that is not right."
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Ah Diddums!!!! maybe you should've thought of that when you voted to devalue your league.
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St Pats must have a decent chance unless Legia had a few players missing in the 1st leg
I hope they are sturdy. 
Westender not sure of how good St Pats are but Legia are no mugs. Look at Celtic only winning 1-0. Next week they'll be sharper and win comfortably. I would expect Legia to be sharper as well and can see them progressing.
Akabula..Pats will struggle to retain their league title this autumn..summer football here..mostly part time players..keith fahey ex birmingham and irish international would be their star player..Christy Fagan who scored against legia wont be playing league of ireland much longer..too good..sligo also done the league proud last nite beating rosenborg..dundalk and derry both beat.
Thanks LD. Yes the Sligo result was good and will ensure a good atmosphere at home.
@Platini Going by the old saying 'It takes one to know one' I'm happy to take your word for that
@Platini Going by the old saying 'It takes one to know one' I'm happy to take your word for that
To me, it looks like the picture goes uphill. Secondly that van on the right hand side appears to be driving on the left hand side so I'd say it was Britain.
Maybe he swerved to avoid the tram. Yes, the more I look at it, that's Amsterdam.
no idea where that is but would guess that any traffic coming the other way would have to move over to that side of the street to get past the tram.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/history-nostalgia/lost-memories-of-sunderland-...
Celtic should have a total clearout if they cannot beat a poor Legia side.
St Pats looked the better side the other day
St Pats looked the better side the other day
I agree, whoever the scottish champions are? they should be as near as dammit straight into the champions league proper.
A nations viewing figures should`nt even come into it, it did`nt when the competition was called the European Cup played over 2 legs between the real champions of each country.
Money has taken away the integrity of the sport.
A nations viewing figures should`nt even come into it, it did`nt when the competition was called the European Cup played over 2 legs between the real champions of each country.
Money has taken away the integrity of the sport.
I agree, whoever the scottish champions are? they should be as near as dammit straight into the champions league proper.
I totally agree, I say kick Liverpool out to make way for Celtic.
I totally agree, I say kick Liverpool out to make way for Celtic.
Wow bedwetter how obsessed are you, even talking about Liverpool in a Celtic thread?!! Well, seeing as we were 2nd not sure your post has any logic whatsoever except emphasising you are a brain dead t1t.
charwell, Liverpool are not champions... celtic are. There is the logic.
If you said the CL should be for champions only then I agree. But you didn't, you made another pathetic remark about Liverpool.
Really, deep down, you must love Liverpool as they occupy your every waking moment and you never move from the BF forum posting about them.
Really, deep down, you must love Liverpool as they occupy your every waking moment and you never move from the BF forum posting about them.
Legia were always going to be the worst draw for any of the seeded clubs over two legs. Only freak results last year stopped them being a seed for this round.
Even if Celtic go out at this stage they will manage to keep the seeding for this round next year.
Even if Celtic go out at this stage they will manage to keep the seeding for this round next year.
The simple fact is most people want to see the best 32 teams in the group stages, not a pick and mix of charity selections based on making sure someone from Iceland, Albania or Ireland are there.
Objectively speaking it is debateable whether Celtic are among the top 100 teams in Europe, so I don't think they can expect any favours for winning the SPL, a league that they have skewed to their advantage by opting out of the CBA for tv rights.
If Celtic contributed to the creation of a competitive and better run league they might find achievements they had in such said league would confer some value at a continental level.
Objectively speaking it is debateable whether Celtic are among the top 100 teams in Europe, so I don't think they can expect any favours for winning the SPL, a league that they have skewed to their advantage by opting out of the CBA for tv rights.
If Celtic contributed to the creation of a competitive and better run league they might find achievements they had in such said league would confer some value at a continental level.
I stand by my comments. Legia are a poor side. So what does that make Celtic? A club in crisis 
It means selling your best players dosnt work too good in europe
doesnt
why even sell tony watt for 1 million quid never mind best players and then take in gerbet on loan
1 million he could have sat on bench at least
why even sell tony watt for 1 million quid never mind best players and then take in gerbet on loan
1 million he could have sat on bench at least
With celtic out of europe, playing in a league the same standard as league 2 in england, the question is - will Scott Brown finally have the balls to test himself in the english championship or even a lower premier league club?
no excuse not to leave now.
no excuse not to leave now.
dont think brown will ever leave now , has it too easy up here
29 now he would struggle imo
think he cost like 4.5 million and hes in his prime now , so 10 million and he can go
29 now he would struggle imo
think he cost like 4.5 million and hes in his prime now , so 10 million and he can go
He has looked like he is 49 since he was born.
its now or never for brown.
its now or never for brown.
i seriously cant see him leaving , unless the board force him out which is possible
but what epl team would be able to afford his wages
but what epl team would be able to afford his wages
also injured again played all last season
but 3 or 4 before that he was lucky to make 20-25 league appearances
but 3 or 4 before that he was lucky to make 20-25 league appearances
when he first signed was 25k i think
but i think will be lower now
no problem for any epl team
but i think will be lower now
no problem for any epl team
Neil Lennon fully supports Celtic's wage structure, however, he has asked Desmond & Lawwell if they can make an exception for Gary Hooper.
Celtic's wage structure falls into six tiers, top tier being £25k a week. Only Scott Brown is believed to be in tier one. 2nd tier is £15-18k (Samaras, Ledley, Kayal, Izaguirre & Forster) Gary Hooper earns less than half of Scott Brown's wage.
This is july 2013
Celtic's wage structure falls into six tiers, top tier being £25k a week. Only Scott Brown is believed to be in tier one. 2nd tier is £15-18k (Samaras, Ledley, Kayal, Izaguirre & Forster) Gary Hooper earns less than half of Scott Brown's wage.
This is july 2013
sammy gone/ledley gone / hooper gone
brown may be told he needs to be sold soon
brown may be told he needs to be sold soon
forster could double or treble that somewhere , so hes showed a bit loyalty if this is true or the club are holding out for a bidding war
we all know when we get a player and he plays well hes getting moved on anyway
has been like this really since o`neil left
its worked out quite well but you cant sell everyone and expect to compete with european teams
has been like this really since o`neil left
its worked out quite well but you cant sell everyone and expect to compete with european teams
£25k is pocket change for a EPL club.
Brown could double his wages if he moves.
Martinez, Pulis and Redknapp have all made positive comments about Brown in the past.
Brown could double his wages if he moves.
Martinez, Pulis and Redknapp have all made positive comments about Brown in the past.
who is the striker celtic signed from Ajax last season?
i said before the polish game to a few people we could get a pasting and it happened it was seriously no surprise to me at all
but we got craig gordon
but we got craig gordon
boerrigter* cost a few million , think he got injured
Brown would be a massive loss for celtic. I think Forster is a certainty to go along with Forest and van Dijk.
would they still take him now
i know he could was only joking about his feee of 10 million and wages
i know he could was only joking about his feee of 10 million and wages
is boerrigter on top wages?
im sure Brown could get a move while he is the right side of 30.
He has the perfect excuse to leave, but does he have the balls?
im sure Brown could get a move while he is the right side of 30.
He has the perfect excuse to leave, but does he have the balls?
not sure if boerrigter gets good wages but id expect be at least 15-20k
i dont think he will move to epl imo he might if forced out but like i say has it easy up here
contract runs for another year and a half i think so see what happens as celtic wont want to lose him for free
i dont think he will move to epl imo he might if forced out but like i say has it easy up here
contract runs for another year and a half i think so see what happens as celtic wont want to lose him for free
akubula i think thats why gordon was signed for forster to leave if no champions league
Signing Gordon was a good piece of business for celtic and like you I think it was with Forster leaving in mind.
If Celtic do go out of the CL, they need to make sure they have a run in the EL. If they don't they'll lose the seeding for the playoff round next year which makes it extremely difficult to qualify for the CL group stages.
do they go into europa league? if legia knock them out?
not sure how seedings are but feyenorrd might be there and spanish/germans etc
so im not sure how it works
so im not sure how it works
cj70 a nice run in europa would be welcomed by many i believe ( now anyway )
make the europa and can rest players in the league every week after a game and before
make the europa and can rest players in the league every week after a game and before
your right chaser, could get a big club in EL qualifiers
seeded teams so far
Seeded teams
Italy Internazionale CC: 95.387
England Tottenham Hotspur CC: 75.949
Spain Villarreal CC: 53.542
Netherlands Twente CC: 50.862
Ukraine Metalist Kharkiv CC: 45.693
Greece PAOK CC: 37.720
Turkey Trabzonspor CC: 31.340
Germany Borussia Mönchengladbach CC: 25.328
Russia Lokomotiv Moscow CC: 20.899
Austria Rapid Wien CC: 19.185
Switzerland Zürich CC: 18.645
Seeded teams
Italy Internazionale CC: 95.387
England Tottenham Hotspur CC: 75.949
Spain Villarreal CC: 53.542
Netherlands Twente CC: 50.862
Ukraine Metalist Kharkiv CC: 45.693
Greece PAOK CC: 37.720
Turkey Trabzonspor CC: 31.340
Germany Borussia Mönchengladbach CC: 25.328
Russia Lokomotiv Moscow CC: 20.899
Austria Rapid Wien CC: 19.185
Switzerland Zürich CC: 18.645
Seeding
A total of 62 teams play in the play-off round: 18 teams which enter in this round, the 29 winners of the third qualifying round, and the 15 losers of the Champions League third qualifying round. The draw will be held on 8 August 2014.[15]
62 teams in the last qualifier
A total of 62 teams play in the play-off round: 18 teams which enter in this round, the 29 winners of the third qualifying round, and the 15 losers of the Champions League third qualifying round. The draw will be held on 8 August 2014.[15]
62 teams in the last qualifier
Forster a certainty to go. But the big man is over-rated for me, so I hope he goes for a daft price.
Cant see many teams paying over the odds , seems like evryone has snapped up south american goalkeepers for pennies
Southampton have plenty of money to spend. Hopefully they'll pay over the odds.
I seen Boruc was maybe on way to Munich if that lands , then they will need him even more
Looking for that "special" night in Europe.....but we´re not even at the end of August
Selling parkhead for the commonwealth games could prove to be a costly mistake.
Doubt it Celtic haven't a hope in hell of overturning the tie no matter where it was played. The team they beat 3-0 last year Karagandy were absolute garbage. Celtic are a poor, poor side.
Aug 3, 2014 -- 6:12PM, akabula wrote:
Selling parkhead for the commonwealth games could prove to be a costly mistake.
selling parkhead was stupid i dont know how much they made , good on a whole for the east end though as it was a sh1t hole and i mean a real sh1t hole as you already know
you never know it could be overturned but very unlikely , no bet for me though ill either watch or be at the game hoping for a result
you never know it could be overturned but very unlikely , no bet for me though ill either watch or be at the game hoping for a result
1-0 at ht and game is still on , but i can see legia scoring
Com Games have brought a MASSIVE boost for the East End and the whole of Glasgow ... I wonder wit colour keks Kylie will be wearing at Hampden tonight?
Bet they're neither blur nor green!
Bet they're neither blur nor green!
The 3-0 result last season was superb, it takes a lot of doing, no matter the opposition. BTW Shakthar Karagandy may be minnows but they would p1ss all over Legia Warsaw. Lawell has a lot to answer for, losing to those muppets.
No chance Plat. Karagandy were rubbish. First leg they just lumped the ball as long and high as they could and Celtic had 2 new CB's who had a nightmare. Weren't much better in the 2nd leg. Legia have 20 odd internationalists on their books and have spent a few quid.
Karagandy were always favourites in the first leg last year, the prices were stupid. It wasn't a bad result for Celtic out there but they were lucky to go through both legs.
Beware if you're thinking Celtic have a better chance in the Europa. There are loads of Legia class sides in that tourney
will celtic be seeded out the 64 , Feyenoord have dropped in also
They have to qualify for the Europa first. Should be seeded but there's some big ole clubs lurking in the non-seeded side.
Torino, Feyenoord, Partizan, Dinamo Moscow, Rostov, Krasnodar, Zulte & Zwolle
Torino, Feyenoord, Partizan, Dinamo Moscow, Rostov, Krasnodar, Zulte & Zwolle
yeah i know we have to qualify but there is 64 teams so 32 seeded
so 32 seeded
Zulte will do never heard of them they must be bad hopefully
hopefully
just done google their from belguim , NEXT PLEASE
zwolle
zwolle
DUTCH
fkc it give us a big draw wel have anyone at parkhead
fkc it give us a big draw wel have anyone at parkhead
You might be really unlucky and draw Aktobe or similar. Can't see the current players doing well over in the Asian steppes.
Guys europa lge is better for us anyhow, imagine meating madrid r barca with that lot
If Barca or Madrid wanted to it really would be double figures
Reminds me of the old song chaser.
Bring on Spaniards by the score.
Barcelona, Real Madrid
They may make their gallant bid.
But they'll only find the reason why we roar.
I'd love to have a word with the clown that penned that.
Bring on Spaniards by the score.
Barcelona, Real Madrid
They may make their gallant bid.
But they'll only find the reason why we roar.
I'd love to have a word with the clown that penned that.
The beggars will be looking at the rule book tonight
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