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29 Jun 14 06:22
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even money an absolute gift

holland are better in every department. Mexico have done well to get out their group but ithere tournemant ends today.

Lump on the dutchies

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By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Jun 14 06:38
overs for me mate

10 for drink long few hours
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 06:44
overs a decent price but i prefer concentratiing on the match odds at this stage of tourney

the should get the job done easily enough imo
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Jun 14 06:51
they look strong an Robben will play well so think ill be on them also

had 40 on colombia

alos had the double with colombia to qualify , bit gutted about that

hows your luck been mate
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Jun 14 06:51
chile qualify *
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 06:54
unlucky with chile mate

decent one last nite so hoping it continues 2day
By:
TheChaser
When: 29 Jun 14 07:08
nice one mate lol was at boozer cheering on chile got told i had too much , a said some on one more drink so finally got a chance for one more ordred 3 shots and 3 guineess and afte that a woke up at 4am lol not got a clue how i got home haha
By:
marychain1
When: 29 Jun 14 08:13
Will be tough for the Dutchies in Fortaleza with a 1pm kick off.

Games there so far:

Brazil 0 Mexico 0
Greece 2 Ivory Coast 1
Uruguay 1 Costa Rica 3
Germany 2 Ghana 2

In at least two of those games the conditions have (in my opinion) have largely contributed to the final result, with the Europeans (and Uruguay in their first game after doing all their prep at home in the cold) really struggling.

Mexico will have a lot of support too. I can see a shock here.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 08:26
conditions will be similar to when holland beat chile. That was an early ko and was very hot that day

cant see that being a negative for them
By:
marychain1
When: 29 Jun 14 09:55
That was in Sao Paolo. Fortaleza is 3,000km nearer the equator and has been much hotter and much more humid. Conditions will really favour Mexico, believe me.
By:
OnePercenter
When: 29 Jun 14 10:35
There are going to be goals so overs for me cashing out by half time so I can enjoy the 2nd half stress free.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 10:38
fair does marychain but still confident that holland get the job done in 90min allbeit in less than ideal conditions
By:
Ozymandius
When: 29 Jun 14 10:41
Mexico are quite solid, allied to conditions, there is a chance of an upset here.
By:
TheBetfairBuddy
When: 29 Jun 14 11:02
@pug There is only one forumite who makes the big headlines!! LOL! How you pal.....Same as COL, massive bet on HOLL coming up
By:
twizzle22
When: 29 Jun 14 11:05
Gringo and Costa Coffee double for me 9/1...lovely..follow me in.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 11:08
lol TBB i am good mate.

Just bn playing the koream matches this morning. Waiting patiently for holland match. Glad to see you ase backing them too


Happy
By:
TheBetfairBuddy
When: 29 Jun 14 11:11
Yip! Very lucky im in. Col fattened yday for no reason pre kick off.
By:
TheBetfairBuddy
When: 29 Jun 14 11:12
i did ansan police,crazy pre game odds movement...almost fixed IMO considering D Cit 1st. Now I took o2.5 in Suwon and Gangwon. 0-0 at the min
By:
Tony Broke
When: 29 Jun 14 11:23
deffo mexico, its their year, the heat will help them, they already played fantastically well there v brazil, players been togetehr a long time, youth winners etc. and theyre very difficult to beat..no idea what happened in qualifying but this side has come of age...mex win.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 29 Jun 14 11:26
I was very impressed with Mexico last time, they toyed with Croatia and wore them out, then went for the jugular and won easily. In this heat i can see them playing a tight game for 60 mins and they going for it.
By:
high_lander
When: 29 Jun 14 12:55
I'm still not convinced about Holland. Why are they suddenly so good? They had no expectations of doing anything in this tournament. Mexico are a dangerous outfit. I wouldn't touch this one.

I think the other game is better value. Costa Rica @2.68 will surely beat Greece. The Greeks have nothing to offer except direness. If Costa Rica can smash the likes of Italy and Uruguay surely they will annihilate the Greeks.
By:
hippie
When: 29 Jun 14 13:09
Evens is a great price for a Dutch win.

LVG says they've fine tuned their strategy to defend against Mexico based on lessons learned against Chile (whom he says are not a lot different in how they play - with better players) and he recced the venue last year so knows what to expect and "that is the reason we tried to get the players to be as fit as possible."

I don't see the Dutch having anything to worry them other than conditions which will also affect the Mexicans (to a lesser extent).
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 13:17
At last! Some positivity

Laugh
By:
OnePercenter
When: 29 Jun 14 13:22
I'm still not convinced about Holland. Why are they suddenly so good?

LvG had 6 months to study the teams in their group and get his tactics spot on. Hence the demolition of Spain.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 29 Jun 14 13:23
prob another extra time here, think best bet is just to lay holland.
By:
high_lander
When: 29 Jun 14 13:30
To be fair Spain could have been 2-0 up and coasting if the wee guy hadn't weirdly tried to chip the goalie inside the box just before RVP made it 1-1.

Spain go 2 up they're in the 2nd round imo - such is football.

In fact if Spain don't play Casillas and Costa they win every game in the group, again just my opinion. It's no fun playing with only 9 men and 2 liabilities.

Are Holland really this good? Personally I doubt it but we shall find out in due course.
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 29 Jun 14 13:45
mexico will eat them.  croatia are a better side than the dutch and they didnt have a sniff.
By:
hippie
When: 29 Jun 14 13:53
The Dutch don't have to adopt the same strategy that the Croats had to employ.

A better side .....?
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 29 Jun 14 13:55
deffo the dutch, for me the best side so far......in a double with CR today
By:
harry callaghan
When: 29 Jun 14 13:58
think the dutch have been put in very short...the mexicans play like a real unit and as much as i see a very close game i fancy mexico to qualify...mexico have only conceded one goal so far this tourney and the goal they gave away was a touch of class...36 on the outright is also insulting...not sure i'd bet them in the 90 but fancy them to get through...shame these 2 teams had to meet so early tbf
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 29 Jun 14 14:03
Greece getting through to last 16 was a traversty, negative in every aspect.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 14:07
croatia a better team than the dutch ffs

Laugh
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 29 Jun 14 14:22
I think the value is Mexico. Re the Chile and Croatia games, Chile bossed large parts of that game but were the ones who had to force the game if they wanted to win the group and got hit on the counter.  Same in the Croatia game where Mexico had the advantage of it being Croatia who had to force the game so i'm wary of reading too much in to either of those results. Based on the other performances though and the likely conditions I think Mexico at 3/1 are too big.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 29 Jun 14 15:40
i dont think its as good a bet as colombia, but ive had 500 on holland to win in 90 minutes and 200 on the draw. the 200 gets me my money back. so its like a draw no bet bet. the trouble holland may have is will mexico attack them enough for the dutch to tear them apart on the break like they have other teams. maybe not. youd expect mexico to play defensively and try to sneak a 1-0. i really dont buy all this love mexico are getting. wouldnt back em at 200/1 to win the cup myself. theyre ok at what they do, but the only way theyre beating any of the top sides is on penalties or a flukey 1-0 win.

not sure holland are a top side, i backed them for the cup pre-tournie cos i thought 42.0 was a decent shot with the players they have. and theyve looked really good so far. but then theyve done this in some previous tournaments, then totally capitulated out of nowhere. think theyll win comfortably, but as its holland you never quite know for sure. id guess 2-0 or 3-1.
By:
PugMunter1
When: 29 Jun 14 16:12
kuyt, sneijder, robben and van persie all start

Happy
By:
sideshowbob
When: 29 Jun 14 16:15
you ruined it with kuyt Plain
By:
sideshowbob
When: 29 Jun 14 16:15
is that memphis dippy lad playing?
By:
marychain1
When: 29 Jun 14 16:16
Right, I've laid Holland to qualify at 1.54. I'm also doing a dutched lay of all the prominent Dutch players as first goalscorer.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 29 Jun 14 16:16
Netherlands
01 Cillessen
12 Verhaegh
15 Kuyt
05 Blind
02 Vlaar
03 de Vrij
06 de Jong
20 Wijnaldum
10 Sneijder
09 van Persie
11 Robben
Substitutes
04 Martins Indi
07 Janmaat
08 de Guzmán
13 Veltman
14 Kongolo
16 Clasie
17 Lens
18 Fer
19 Huntelaar
21 Depay
22 Vorm
23 Krul
Mexico
13 Ochoa
22 Aguilar
07 Layún
15 Moreno
04 Márquez
02 Rodríguez
06 Herrera
03 Salcido
10 dos Santos
19 Peralta
18 Guardado
Substitutes
01 Corona
05 Reyes
08 Fabián
09 Jiménez
11 Pulido
12 Talavera
14 Hernández
16 Ponce
17 Brizuela
20 Aquino
21 Peña
Ref: Pedro Proença
By:
padlock
When: 29 Jun 14 16:16
1pm kick off in 36 degree heat
holland will melt in 2nd half imo
extra time and penalties imo
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