LIVERPOOL WIN A DEVALUED LEAGUE.

My SAS odds compiler program makes them 1/2 for the title

or maybe Liverpool will win it again and prove that playing less games (up to 14 less in some cases) in other competitions did not hugely aid their success? I am sure this thread will be recycled as the season goes on

What happens if Man Utd finish above Liverpool next season? are Utd not going to be in the Europa League then?  Here is a little prediction if? Utd have the same scenario as Liverpool this season, they will finish in a higher place in the league than Liverpool and Chelsea and City certainly will .

Liverpool will do well to finish 4th next season given the same schedule as the other top teams.

just strange in over 2 decades of the premier league this has never hugely aided a team that has not qualified for the champs league that season.

the league is won season after season by those that have competed in the champs league that season but now all of a sudden the huge advantage of no europe is massively over shadowing the obvious disadvantage of having a weaker squad and struggling to attract a lot of players you wanted because of no champs league over the past few seasons and seeing these players go to the sides that are now making excuses!

nothing to do with a good brand of football and a bright young manager with a clear vision of what he wants and how to go about getting it.

one final time yes its been an advantage for freshness but over a season freshness is nothing without quality

you can seethe away all summer now for all i care, IF liverpool win the league the fans will be rightly celebrating an unbelievable achievement from players and manager whilst you continue to squirm and justify this outrage

If its such a big thing, why don't teams refuse to play in the champions league?

A.H.Hunter esq.        22nd April wrote

Manchester United boss David Moyes feels Liverpool's title push this season has been aided by their lack of European football.

United host Liverpool at Old Trafford today.

Moyes said: "Liverpool and Brendan (Rodgers) might have benefited from being out of Europe.


  even Moyesy knows the score .

Must be one of the funniest posts in this thread. "Moyesy knows the score" do you still think so? Listen A. H. I think it's time to stop digging

stridingedge has it in a nutshell. By this theory, Carlisle United should have done well in Div 1 in 1976 after an early exit in R3 of the FA cup...

I think you'll find those losses came about through paying off previous managers (Dalglish & Hodgson), no CL football, & an excessively high wage bill considering the lack of achievement we'd encountered over the previous years. All three of those problems have no been addressed. Add to that some lucrative sponsorship deals brought in over the past 12-18 months, with quite a few more to come. Hopefully the extension work on Anfield will start shortly, which will eventually bring in an extra 10,000 people every home game. I'm confident you'll see a much healthier set of figures when our next set of accounts are shown. The FFP rules won't be a problem for us. Lets see how other clubs fare.

Regardless of the reasons for it and what may or may not happen in future it is a fact that Liverpool have made big losses for several years and therefore have been doing some "excessive spending" of their own.

I actually don't have an issue with that because clubs should be able to run their businesses as they see fit imo but let's not just ignore the fact that Liverpool has been running at losses to rival Chelsea and City over the past few years regardless of net spend. When ourselves and City came along and started winning titles the majority of whining about that success not being "real" came from Liverpool and Arsenal fans. I presume winning the title, if it happens, won't feel any less "real" to Liverpool fans this time even if they've done so operating at big losses for several years?

Btw I agree that Rodgers has shown himself to be a very good manager. That's what happens when you come up through the Chelsea bootroom I guess

The last time liverpool won the league and a cup was 28 years ago. What a f'kin lazy team

Which was the last time you had a job you lazy bitter barsteward. Get back in your box you sh1thead

I think if liverpool go on to win the league with their wafer thin squad it will be the greatest achievement in PL history. To compete against the massive squads of the clubs in the CL has rarely been done before hence pretty much the same clubs being in it year in year out. This illustrates the massive resource advantage they have. Isn't Citeh the highest paid squad in world sport?

Perhaps IF they do win the Premier League then it will nail the lie that you have to make massive squad rotations every week...

We all know that the Managers of bigger Clubs have to keep a larger pool of talented players happy and their agents demand that their players get games...

Liverpool as a Club with the door to the Trophy Cabinet having needed a new hinge for years, and no-one in the City qualified to undertake such an arduous task have had an advantage it must be said...

However will Tom Daley still be available next year as forwards coach and will the Premier League referees have caught up on their MOTD tapes over the Summer recess...

We can only hope that some of the shocking scenes from this year are not repeated but I have heard that already,even in April 751 Children have already been born this year in the Liverpool Women's Maternity Unit and been Christened Penalty...

thought chelsea had the most yellows for diving and that young Utd kid with the funny name has the most as a player but dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument

So is Blackburn`s win in the 94-95 season devalued? They only played in Europe twice in that season.Two games in September against a Norwegian side.

rothko 22 Apr 14 19:32 Joined: 10 Jan 04 | Topic/replies: 1,552 | Blogger: rothko's blog
thought chelsea had the most yellows for diving and that young Utd kid with the funny name has the most as a player but dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument..

You must be one of those blind Liverpool fans...

Even those in the Citys Kindergarten (I make a mention that there is only one as only 27 Liverpool mothers actually work )

They have a new way of teaching the alphabet...

P E N A L T Y ....

Enough of this nonsense-value bets tonight are 3-0,or 3-1 to Atletico and then start laying off betsprogressively at around 75 minutes.You can get  about 17/1 and 20/1 on these scores at the start.Atletico should be 2-0 at half time  in which case you will be laying 3-0 or 3-1 at about 3- 6/1  at around 46 minutes

Easy money

Feck me loanwolf I bet you do not have many friends...

Chelsea team for Liverpool -

  Bonetti

  Harris
  Dempsey
  Hinton
  Mcreadie

  Hollins
  Hudson
  Cooke

  Dixon
  Speedie
  Nevin

 

hope not that forward line would pose more problems than the current strikers

Chelsea team for City

  Cech

  Ivan
  Terry
  Cahill
  Azpi

  Luiz
  Matic

  willian
  Hazard
  Oscar

  Eto'o

 

maybe its a bluff or double bluff mind game from mourhino.

I think you're right, it will be

Cech
Oscar
Matic
Ivan
Cahill

Willian
Eto
Azpi
Luiz
Hazard
Terry

News just in....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27122370

Liverpool will target big signings in summer - Ian Ayre

Liverpool will hand manager Brendan Rodgers a significant summer transfer kitty as the club seek to build on qualification for the Champions League.
The Reds, favourites to win Premier League, believe Europe's elite competition will help them attract top talent and are willing to pay for it.
"It will cost what it costs when we decide who the manager wants to buy," said managing director Ian Ayre.
“
We always expected that the squad we need for next season will be very different to the squad for this year
”
Liverpool have benefited from not playing in Europe this season.

Even the biased bbc liverpool luvies own up to it

Yes - and here is the crux for the more dim-witted - Liverpool being in Europe hasn't made the other teams lose and they still have to win their games. Nobody is denying it hasn't helped but it isn't the deciding factor - if it was it would have happened far far more often and it would be mentioned at the start of every season - but it isn't is it? This thread really is a classic now - keep it up (but please stop repeating the same nonsense - try and develop the argument eh?).

*not being

Of course it helps, but the TV money from being in the Champions League also helps the other clubs build a squad big and talented enough to be able to fight on both fronts.

there is no argument to develop, every team that has won the premiership have been competing in Europe, end of thread

That's where you're wrong Scoty - i will devleop TBB's argument now by privding the full quote from the BBC:

Liverpool's small squad have benefited from not playing in Europe this season.

that's a statement of an organisations opinion, obviously we all have different opinions. Oh when you consider that liverpool have a bigger squad than the other teams in the top 4 it detracts value from their opinion.

So Liverpool's failure to qualify for Europe this season has in no way aided their league position and in no way has adversley affected any of their rivals ,despite Chelsea playing a seriously weakened team in terms of injuries gained in the Champions League at the weekend ?  And that in no way devalues or cheapens that success?


  An abnormal season with a freak result

  Lets see how Stevie Gee and co cope with Weds/Thurs Sat/Sun football next season and if they still get those flying starts where you go 2-0 up after 10 mins after having been on a plane for up to 5 hours .


  zeez eez facts .

Chelsea have had ample opportunity to develop a strong enough squad to cope with the rigours of all they are involved in...what with the Champions League revenue over the past years and Abramovichs millions...

..there really is no excuse for them.

Hunter - do you actually read any other post other than your drivel? Practically EVERY 'PRO LIVERPOOL' SUPPORTER HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT HAS PLAYED A PART if they win yet you still repeat the nonsense of 13:21. O almost hope liverpool don't win, you do and then see what you've got to say for yourself about a 'devalued' and 'abnormal' season!

Scoty - all squads are the same size - 25 unless club decided otherwise - apart from young unrpoven players ('homegrowners' i believe is the phrase) that Liverpool have in the squad out of necessity and have barely used them, but you must have known that it's so obvious!

Yes was well aware of it so for the BBC to state we had a small squad is incorrect. Like you say all Liverpool fans are aware that not being in Europe has helped us but surely the advantage is not that significant or teams not playing in Europe would regularly challenge for the title and in no way shape or form does it detract from their improvement this season.

The only team who devalues the league is Chelsea. Parking the bus, time wasting beyond belief and anti 'the beautiful game.'

Any team not in Europe will benefit but the teams tend to have a smaller squad in terms of quality. Therefore whoever tops the league deserves to win.

To knock a team who play exciting football, with a team littered with young players and an English backbone is churlish in the extreme. LFC should be widely applauded.

if Liverpool win it they deserve it, fair play to them

Any team not in Europe will benefit but the teams tend to have a smaller squad in terms of quality.


  Everyone agrees it was a big benefit and was probably crucial to their performance, Liverpool players past and present,managers and fans.






The only debate is ,does it devalue it?




For me it does and makes it a freak result ,next season will tell us if it was or not,when we have an even playing field and Liverpool have no advantage in terms of rest and preperation .









Come the end of next season I expect most will be saying that it was a freak event aided by circumstances.









How appropriate it will be on Sunday that Liverpool will play a team who are in the semi finals of the biggest prize in European club football and one who will be resting players because they are competing in Europe, when a win for a full strength and well prepared Chelsea team could still enable Chelsea or Man City to win the league.

Charwell, you will deserve it when you win it but your hatred towards Chelsea along with the disrespect in general shown by Liverpool towards Chelsea is it any wonder it's given back.

Chelseaki can you please give examples of this disrespect from Liverpool towards Chelsea as, and I know i'm not speaking for all LFC fans but I'm having trouble recollecting caring about you lot until Moaninio did what he does - the afore mentioned and well used 'us and them' tactic for the 'phantom goal' game. I don't doubt a few remarks about buying success etc came your way but that has been levelled at pretty much every team that wins things. Maybe some who went regularly in the 70's and 80's can put me right though.
I don't remember any sort of historical antipathy other than the usual cockney bullox that went with every London team and Liverpool and the odd headhunter incursion - basically what is your earliest memory of this dislike of all things Liverpool from your end?

chelseakai, isnt this thread started by a chelsea fan saying if liverpool win the league its undeserved? And the hatred in this thread starts right there.

Would you like to comment on your views on a hunter?

The bigger teams have obviously not benefited from playing in Europe..

Being able to rest in between games has been a major factor in Liverpool being more successful than in the previous 30 years plus..

We must not discount the fact that they seem to be getting the most of the alleged "rub of the green" and in the "25 years since Hillsboro" that is rammed down our throats at every opportunity.

Perhaps the alleged PREMIERship referees will have cottoned on to their antics after a Summer watching MOTD...

None of the said refs are fit to referee in the World Cup after all....

I went to most if not all Liverpool v Chelsea games from '69 and throughout the 70's and 80's, absolutely no bitterness whatsoever. The usual we hate the cockney's chant. To be honest Chelsea didn't have a big away following compared to some and I can't remember any trouble over the years. Of course there weren't the internet forum warriors who haven't a clue what football is about then.

This thread really is a classic now - keep it up (but please stop repeating the same nonsense - try and develop the argument eh?). on here

the CL teams with the big squads usually finish in the top 4 year after year. For liverpool to not only break into the top 4 but to challenge for the title with a miniscule squad is perhaps the greatest achievement in PL history
in the away game at chelski we had kids on the bench who hadnt even started shaving yet

Read my previous posts on the subject.

Liverpool have been the best team, Chelsea, will be like all Mourinhio teams and that is boring to watch, but effective at getting results, while Man City despite winning 1 League title, don't seem to be able to quite get over the line.

SO MUCH BITTERNESS

spyker     23 Apr 14 19:27 
Chelseaki can you please give examples of this disrespect from Liverpool towards Chelsea as, and I know i'm not speaking for all LFC fans but I'm having trouble recollecting caring about you lot until Moaninio did what he does - the afore mentioned and well used 'us and them' tactic for the 'phantom goal' game. I don't doubt a few remarks about buying success etc came your way but that has been levelled at pretty much every team that wins things. Maybe some who went regularly in the 70's and 80's can put me right though.
I don't remember any sort of historical antipathy other than the usual cockney bullox that went with every London team and Liverpool and the odd headhunter incursion - basically what is your earliest memory of this dislike of all things Liverpool from your end?

Spyker

Think it all started with the Louis Garcia goal in the CL, can't remember the year. I've never had a problem with Chelsea and have fond memories of the Peter Osgood days - Mourhino was a novelty at first but is now a total kn0b. Secretly the Chelsea fans are embarrassed by him.

Eff and Crystal, thanks - that's pretty much what i thought. My dad is from Huyton and lived in W London area in 50's and 60's and there was nothing - he used to go to SB regularly (mainly for the dogs mind) and doesn't remember any rumblings. Chelski - sorry mate but all you've said is 'Liverppol fans are bitter and disrespectful and worse than others towards Chelsea' and i'm trying to find out when that started (perceived or not).
I wouldn't say Chelsea were an irrelevance to Liverpool but they were no more relevant than any other team (not forgetting liverppol weren't exactly winning much in the 90's!). So some genuine Chelsea input would be appreciated as i suspect this is purely an internet age thing stemming from Garcia's goal and the nonsense around that game.

game is over when final whistle is blown . the rest is a load of nonsense .
points make prizes that's it. win most and or even most goals scored ... league I'ts  yours   good luck  ..............

What irritates Liverpool fans is the fact that Cheslea overtook them as a club pre Abramovich when Jesper Grongkaer scored the 10 million pound goal at The Bridge that meant Chelsa and not Liverpool where a European club and that still stands 10 years later,for a club that seeks justice and the truth they really need to accept that. 



The Heysel blame game is still very sore with some and they seem to want to airbrush that from history.

Hunter - how did/does this perceived 'irritation' present itself - please don't say 'I met someone in a liverpool shirt down the pub' as we all know that means 'I'm making this up as i go along'? And the heysel memorial at Anfield which was unveiled at the holding of a service on the 25th anniversary of it along with reconcilliation attempts when playing Juve and pages on fans sites etc rather exposes your 'airbrushing' theory. Just because people say it on the internet doesn't mean it's true you know - however many times and often they say it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOtIuNYVeQY

  Liverpool fans in pubs?

  I enjoy putting them right on when Chelsea overtook Liverpool as a football club ,it was the season before Abramovich took over and that must irritate the club who seek the truth and justice - no?

Spyker I'd say there has always been an edge from our side for Liverpool games but one I'd generally put down to you lot being the team to beat at the time. There was the odd incident that raised the temperature on our side i.e. the Saunders tackle that finished Paul Elliott's career and the Fowler nonsense with Le Saux but that wasn't long lasting. I remember beating you 4-0 just before Christmas in the early 2000's and the songs were mostly of the "you nicked my stereo" and feed the scousers" variety and certainly not the "murderers" sort of stuff that took hold later.

I don't think there was any one factor that led to the intensity of the rivalry increasing. I just think it was an inevitable consequence of coming up against each other in so many big games in a short space of time. By the same degree I've heard some of our younger fans say they hate Barca more than Tottenham which I find ridiculous but again that's come out of the number of big games we played against them in the space of a few years.

Marcee - you're prob right in that it was the lots of games in short space and - i also think forums play a part in stoking nonsense and Moaninio def stokes fires to this effect wherever he goes as well! In all honesty my memory of longer-term London rivals is more against spuds - but maybe that's because at that time (70/80's) they were winning things and, being from the south, lots of people supported them then.
I really don't know whether even now liverpool fans really pay much attention to Chelsea (more than other teams by looking for results of teams you want to lose!) - it's not as if we haven't had anything to focus on ourselves the last 20 years (not being very good for big chunks!) so other teams don't come into it. At least that's my point of view.

i've got no particular hatred for lpool, in fact they were a sort of "second team" for everyone when they were carrying all in europe before them and they were about 90% [possibly more] of live football on tv at the time.

i've got to say most of the respect i had for the club went out of the window when i was watching live coverage of the match in heysel when nobody had a clue what was going on and that idiot who was their club secretary went on live tv and pronounced that he had it on very good authoruty that it was the fault of chelsea fans [quite amazing really when you think that an earlier post on this fred said chelsea didn't have much of an away following.

i quite enjoyed the games when both teams were competeing for stuff, but i've got to say that my hackles have started to rise this season on the reappearance of the lesser spotted lpool fan[ for the last ten years anyway who have started reappearing in some pubs on the sarf london suurey borders, resplendant in their new shirts.

if i choose to go to a boozer for the closing day i'll be giving one or two a wide berth.

Oh dear....Some unfair dodgy "doctoring" on this official Italian Wikipedia page.

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strage_dell%27Heysel

Strage dell'Heysel
Da Wikipedia, l'enciclopedia libera.
Strage dell'Heysel
Stato    Belgio Belgio
Luogo    Stadio Heysel
Data    29 maggio 1985
Morti    39
Feriti    oltre 600
Responsabili    Hooligan del Liverpool
La strage dell'Heysel fu una tragedia avvenuta il 29 maggio 1985, poco prima dell'inizio della finale di Coppa dei Campioni di calcio tra Juventus e Liverpool allo stadio Heysel di Bruxelles, in cui morirono 39 persone, di cui 32 italiane, e ne rimasero ferite oltre 600.

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1 La strage
2 Il seguito
3 Impatto sugli stadi
4 Le vittime[8]
5 Squadre inglesi escluse dal 1985-1986 al 1990-1991
6 Commemorazioni
7 Filmografia
8 Note
9 Altri progetti
10 Collegamenti esterni
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Ai molti tifosi italiani, buona parte dei quali proveniva da club organizzati, fu assegnata la tribuna N, che si trovava nella curva opposta a quella riservata ai tifosi inglesi; molti altri tifosi organizzatisi autonomamente, anche nell'acquisto dei biglietti, si trovavano invece nella tribuna Z, separata da due basse reti metalliche dalla curva dei tifosi del Liverpool, ai quali si unirono anche tifosi del Chelsea, noti per la loro violenza (si facevano chiamare headhunters, "cacciatori di teste").


In English (Google Translate)

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strage_dell%27Heysel

Heysel Stadium disaster

The massacre was one of the Heysel tragedy occurred May 29, 1985 , shortly before the final of the Champions League football match between Liverpool and Juventus at the Heysel stadium in Brussels , which killed 39 people , including 32 Italian , and I more than 600 were injured .



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6 Commemorations
7 Filmography
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For many Italian fans , most of whom came from organized clubs , was assigned to the grandstand N, which stood in the corner opposite to the one reserved for the British fans ; many other fans organizzatisi independently , even with the ticket , they were instead in the grandstand Z , separated by a low wire mesh from the curve of the Liverpool fans , who also joined Chelsea fans , known for their violence ( they were headhunters call , "head hunters ").

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The other thing I'd say played a part from the Liverpool side was Gerrard being on the verge of joining us. It wasn't as if a player like him was ever going to go from you to United and I think that stirred up a fair bit of antagonism towards us.

As I said on another thread yesterday there was a noticeable change of attitude from Liverpool to us. We went from getting the odd version of "Stamford Bridge is falling down" to virtually the whole ground telling us we had no history. Coming out of that away end has been a bit more lively than it used to be as well just recently.

Thing is Mex - the same can be said for Chelsea fans around me in Newbury. Barely a sausage of a Chelsea fan 10-15 years back yet suddenly boooooom loads of blue 'Samsung' shirts - Vodaphone were so unhappy (as they owned newbury at the time!) that they ended sponsorship of UTD!

spyker

it's not the same though is it?

you're talking about the appearance, i'm talking about the re-appearance.

anyway, if you live in mewbury chelsea are probably the nearest premiership team to get to, just a quick dash down the m4

TBB I don't know why i bother but - it is well known that many other 'firms' were at heysel and Belgian police were given warnings from Both UK and Italian police of trouble as this was the culmination of a few years of bad blood from Italian Ultras and UK clubs. That's not taking away from the leading part that Liverpool hooligans played and anyone that knows anything about (uk/European) football hooliganism in the 80's can back it up. At that time Chelsea 'headhunters' were more notorious than others 9rightly or wrongly) and got mentioned in the same way Milwall fans do now - didn't last long though! I've not read them but it's covered in various (non Liverpool!) books.

No you're right of course Mex - 30-40 yo who had never professed support for a football club suddenly supporting a winning time is nothing like you mention is it?

no it's not... you just don't get it do you?

these were geezers who, having never been norf of brent cross in their lives rampaging through boozers telling anybody who couldn't give them a swerve the gospel according to roy/gerrard/rafa/kenny etc, bur for 10 years they aint had thier shirts on, and aint had much to say about football.


BUT NOW THEY'RE BACK RESPLENDANT IN THEIR NEW SHIRTS

who seriously wears football shirts past their teens anyway?

ok on hols or when living abroad when a big game is on just to let the yanks etc know your English and your here. lol

absolutely right.

i've never worn one when not playing. i reckon it looks ridiculous grown men wearing them [especially ol' boys like me]

but then your slagging of a breed of person who are probably too simple to really have a go at

bully

Brendan - The Devalued One

I apologise for trying to get the thread back on top but,devalued league or not(devalued lol)
Liverpool winning the league this season after where they've been
the last few seasons AND spending a fraction of the oil clubs WHILST playing
the best football would be the greatest achievement in English football for as
long as I can remember.

It would be a truly staggering achievement in this day and age.

The fact that the FA are allowing Chelsea to pick a 'light' team without any sanctions....means that infact they are giving the weakest title known to man to liverpool. 

They should do what Riddick Bowe did back in the 90's, and put that title in a trashcan so liverpool can degrade themselves by dipping it out of the bin.

How old are you Bozzo - you're getting more pathetic by the day

i think what the premiership should do is cancel the title this season, cancel relegation, let the four cl qualifiers from last season compete in next seasons competition,and give lpool a six points deduction in next seasons title race for causing so much trouble.

mind yiu that might not be enough for some.

I dont think Gerrard,Dalglish,Rodgers,Mourinho,Wenger and co will be happy with that ,Gerrard,Dalglish and Rodgers will want to play in Europe especially .  This season was a one off ya berk .

Can I apologise to Man City in advance for the team we put out on Sunday? 

  We are concentrating on Europe .

i suppose the 0952 post makes sense to somebody

what is that 2112 post all about?

A.H HUNTER esq. 25 Apr 14 10:05 Joined: 14 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 13,905 | Blogger: A.H HUNTER esq.'s blog
Can I apologise to Man City in advance for the team we put out on Sunday? 

  We are concentrating on Europe .


I suppose that must set you apart from Utd fans. They didn't have the decency to apologise for fielding weakened sides all season, knowing they were put all their efforts in winning the Community shield.

Just outed steview33

He is Frank Sinatra...

Although when I watched the great man in Vegas he never cheated his fans....

TheBetterBettor 24 Apr 14 19:43 Joined: 10 Jan 12 | Topic/replies: 5,349 | Blogger: TheBetterBettor's blog
The fact that the FA are allowing Chelsea to pick a 'light' team without any sanctions....means that infact they are giving the weakest title known to man to liverpool. 

They should do what Riddick Bowe did back in the 90's, and put that title in a trashcan so liverpool can degrade themselves by dipping it out of the bin.


And Manure finish in 7th place. As I've said before go away you effin dope

When you buy the Rothmans Football Yearbook in years to come there will be a blank chapter where 2013/2014 should have appeared..

It will simply state in LARGE BLACK TYPE...

"This was a year to forget.The Cheats took over but the referees have been on a course and will never again be taken in by what has happened.Simply passing the ball upfront for any player in a Red Shirt to fall over will be banned"...

Teeth will be cleaned and taken out and we will return to normal...

Loving it We are back.

Just heard from my pal at referees HQ that all Premiership refs are to be supplied with a TV next year so that they can actually follow what is going on...

They have been told not to go to bed before MOTD...

HFT, it remains a mystery to us all why your wife left you.

she was fed up being called "rancid"

Charwell the only thing that has ever left me is a dose from the Landlady of a Pub in Bootle..

And that took two shots of penicillin...

Just read the stats from this season and amazingly Liverpool have had less shots on target than last year...

Look in the shops around Town it is me that is supplying the Hats,Scarves,T-Shirts and Dole Card Protectors with my Trade-Marked (tm*) approved slogan...

PENALTY.....

Every cloud has a silver lining....

Behind a clowns face are tears.

Chin up old chump.

Your wife has left you and your hated LFC are on course for the title.

Still bad luck happens in 3's. I recommend you keep away from any bacon slicer.

Completeley mugged them off with all that talk that the league was theirs ,they may not even win a devalued league?

  Everything in their favour Chelsea in Europe,injuries suspensions and Liverpool still blow it.

  .

"all that talk that the league was theirs"

^^^^^ coming from someone who created a thread entitled "Liverpool win a devalued league", long before anyone , let alone Liverpool, had won the league ???!!!

Got to love the irony of that mate.

PS good luck in the Champions League,and I'm not being ironic, I mean it.

feck em this negative footy doing my head in.hopeefully real win it play the game the right way

Mind games mate ,mind games worked a treat .

   Nobody said they had the bottle to win it,just that IF they had it would have been devalued ,but they will now fall just short even with everything in heir favour .



Although many on here said they were by FAR the best team ,well the best team usually wins it and to bottle it against a weakened team concentrating on Europe shows they just are not good enough .

"a weakened team concentrating on Europe"



More Mourinho mind games.

A 'weakened' team that cost over 100m and in which every single player was a full international. Then he brought on 3 subs that cost about 90m.

Very weak

its coming home, its coming... or maybe not!

What a kid making his debut a centre back?

  No JT no Cech no Cahill saved for a bigger match no Hazard injured in Europe Liverpool not good enough if they would have won it ,it would have been devalued for the reasons they have bottled it. Not good enough despite every advantage.

Hmmm, I don't see any mention of the word "IF" in your thread title, nor any "IFS" in your opening posts either. I did find this in your first or second post though... "always an achievement to win it ,but this one was an abnormality." Sounds decidedly non "IF" to me.

Anyway, so far this season I've read threads on here declaring the title as all but over and in City's hands, Chelsea's hands and then Liverpool's hands. Pretty sure one of those 3 teams will win it, all in good time though, every season posters on here call it too early, seeming to forget that "twists and turns" are actually fairly common in football.

"What a kid making his debut a centre back"



You make it sound like they threw a 16 year old in. He's played for Chelsea before, he spent 2 years playing in the Eredivisie and he's a full international.

Today just proved the point that has been made to you on this thread over the past week, which for some reason you seem to ignore. Chelsea (like City) have 2 top players for each position. They don't have a 'weak' team.

No you saw "Liverpool win a devalued" league the fact they have bottled it proves that it would have been devalued . All that in their favour and they cant beat a team concentrating on europe and with a kid making his debut.



Not good enough despite all the advantages and proven today.

All the advantages? Sorry, I forgot that Man city and Chelsea's squads are full of free transfers and bargain buys and that they've been massively outspent by Liverpool, lol.

"the fact they have bottled it proves that it would have been devalued"



So all week you've been arguing if they'd won the league it would've been devalued.

But now they might not win it, it also proves it would've been devalued.

Apr 27, 2014 -- 6:40PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:

"What a kid making his debut a centre back"You make it sound like they threw a 16 year old in. He's played for Chelsea before, he spent 2 years playing in the Eredivisie and he's a full international.Today just proved the point that has been made to you on this thread over the past week, which for some reason you seem to ignore. Chelsea (like City) have 2 top players for each position. They don't have a 'weak' team.

City dont have 2 top RB's LB's or CB's

Biscuit33 is one off a full packet..

Man Utd have played their worst season since rationing ended..

Chelsea have a very poor squad,some of their subs today would be lucky to make it in the Russian Navy..

Arsenal last won a trophy when I could fit into 30 inch waist jeans..

And the five alleged trophy buys that the manager has made (go on name them I dare you) at Liverpool have hardly featured at all..

Happy Days....

"City dont have 2 top RB's LB's or CB's"


Clichy, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Richards, Kompany, Nastasic.

Congats biscuit33 on being sober at this time of night..

Long may it continue..

If I was a Liverpool fan I would be face down (and for you not the first time) in the Mersey after your "team" were out thought and out performed by a Jose second string outfit...

"Congats biscuit33 on being sober at this time of night"



Well you obviously aren't judging by your posts.

And what's your obsession with the number 33? First you started a rather bizarre 'RIP Steview33' thread and now this