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DeSSieReborn
04 Mar 14 12:23
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Does the fine come from the individuals net earnings (ie after tax)?

Does the fine become the taxable income of the club, or is it paid to the FA or to a charity?
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Report David Icke March 4, 2014 3:29 PM GMT
Goes into the players pool for one hell of an end of season p1ss up in Lanzarote.
Report DeSSieReborn March 4, 2014 7:42 PM GMT
I think "fines" are probably fictional to try and pre empt FA action........
Report Speedyr369 March 4, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
The fine would come out of the nett earnings (pre-tax)

The same way that any deductions are removed from your own wages for a company car or health care etc.
Report geordie1956 March 4, 2014 8:15 PM GMT
Top footballers are involved in so many tax avoidance schemes that the difference between gross or net figures becomes inconsequential
Report morpteh mackem March 4, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
if you honestly think players and managers get fined by a club you are in cloudcuckoo land
Report BARNEY15C March 4, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
Should be paid into separate account held by the FA for grass roots football. Fines under the current system can easily be lost in creative accounting schemes.
Report lurka March 4, 2014 10:03 PM GMT

Mar 4, 2014 -- 8:13PM, Speedyr369 wrote:


The fine would come out of the nett earnings (pre-tax)The same way that any deductions are removed from your own wages for a company car or health care etc.


The player's contract would have to hold the fining clause, so i'd say it's taken off the gross earnings of the player and the club pays the tax on the fine. But i'd say in practice in a lot of cases the club only pays the tax on the fine Wink

Report onlooker March 4, 2014 10:09 PM GMT
Speedyr369     04 Mar 14 20:13 

The fine would come out of the nett earnings (pre-tax)
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How can "nett earnings," and, ""pre-tax" ....

- appear next to each other - in the same statement?
Report grumpyjim March 5, 2014 5:48 AM GMT
managers should sit in stand and grin and bare it same as fans ..... has all ... all  ...prep? done by 3 pm on sat .. let these players get on with it  .     T.V.  ..,  they are the boys who thrive on controversy and weaker managers fall for it , as they become EXPLOSIVE   ..passion for the game of sport  ? ...mostly   UNSPORTING .. ...AND CHILDISH   LIKE ..NEED SPANKING  ..  only not allowed violence  re head butting etc  ...Words can hurt , but at least rarely causes too much friction   ..again loved by media ...sells papers and ,  tv ..sport  and news channels  ...all give it laldy  ???  Wise up mr manager  ...
Report efisio. March 5, 2014 12:48 PM GMT
I once attempted to collect a debt from an England International, Premier League Footballer. He ignored many requests, so I went to see him at his Clubs training ground (i had a warrant), where it was requested I speak to the team manager, which I did. The outcome was, I was sent to the Club, whereupon the secretary paid the due sum in full, and said they would stop it out of the players wages.
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 5, 2014 2:06 PM GMT
The fine would come out of the nett earnings (pre-tax)

as another poster said....nett is after tax
pre is before tax.

would be a nett deduction.
You cant stop gross pay if you have worked those "hours"....employment law....the amount still has to be taxed.

and the tax man would probably fine you too for avoiding tax
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 5, 2014 2:07 PM GMT
what they would do is work out the nett and decuct that figure ...hpe this helps
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 5, 2014 2:07 PM GMT
opps ****ingkeybored
Report Bergkamp93 March 5, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
Anybody that Believes that Pardew actually got fined is Brain-dead..As someone mentioned it is all fictional !!
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 5, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
his bank manager would know
Report lurka March 5, 2014 4:33 PM GMT
the player is not an employee, he is a contractor under a contract for services. it would all depend on what the contract says and i would imagine fines are dealt with in the most tax efficient manner
Report If Dolphins Were Monkeys March 5, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
If the rumours are true then Mike Ashley is Pardews Bank Manager anyway Mischief
Report geordie1956 March 5, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
Players are considered employees and they are assets of the club as reflected within balance sheets - often some of their remuneration package is considered outside of PAYE such as their brand name displayed on shirts "image rights as we might say" - usually a figure is agreed and this is paid to the company which has been created for the player.
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