If Utd don't qualify for Europe will they sack Moyes?

Might get an intertoto through the fair play rule.

think the board will have to act soon..

after all the share price is related to results

the glazers want to protect their investment..

at this rate Moyes is losing the club millions each week

they could still win the champions league to get in......oh .....just realised on paper Sheffield utd are more likely to win it

That must make Ferguson the most sensational manager in football history then, high_lander.  They're utter tripe now, and that's after adding Januzaj, Mata, plus spending £27M on another midfielder - that's potentially three top-class midfielders added!   Just how poor must that squad have been that Fergie engineered to an 11pt romp in the Prem (despite the players having given up on playing for the final two months), and an almost-victory over Real Madrid.

Maybe they were flattered by Fergie, but there's no way this limp lifeless predictable lightweight tosh would be served up by those players if they had a good manager presiding over them.  Given the list of managers that would have come in the summer, Moyes has turned out to be a quite atrocious choice.  And the club's continued backing of him over the last few weeks beggars belief.

The Man City players are very very hard to motivate. That's essentially why they were so poor last year, and why they remain enigmatic this season.

My main point is that Man U could have gone for a proven quality manager in the summer. Plenty of reports suggest Mourinho would have been up for it. At the very least, he would have had the players playing as a team. That's why Fergie was so successful. Man U have been phenomenally successful for many years, but it's rarely been because they have a whole team full of the very best players. Each year there have been two or three big names (just as there are this year), but the majority have been decent but not great. Yet, with a good manager, they've been moulded into a top side. It's not just about loading the team with stars. That's what Man City fans etc. don't understand.

If Mourinho was available, he should always have been the first choice, since he could have knitted them together into a cohesive unit. Klopp or Conte would have had some merit too. Under the circumstances, Moyes was a very poor choice, and that became apparent almost immediately. He should have been dispensed with two months ago, even if that meant persuading Fergie to step back in for six months. That way, the team would have had a big lift in form and a decent chance of getting fourth and securing Champs League football for next season - crucial if a 'rebuilding' job or new permananet manager is needed.

Moyes needs to be given a chance
I think he is a tremendous manager
OK he hasnt won any trophies but he did get Everton to 4th one year - a tremendous achievement - even Jose doesnt have that on his CV
think Fergie knows best

Man U have a problem with an ageing squad and a couple of seasons ago those players were better than they are now. United had a great defence when they had Van Der Sar, Vidic and Ferdinand at their best but their replacements are nowhere near their class. They had a fantastic midfielder in the shape of Paul Scholes. United always had world class players in most areas of the pitch but they have deteriorated badly in recent years. This side is the poorest united have had for decades imvho.

thursday morning please , like the idea of fergie coming back till end of the season, this cant carry on it will not inprove under moyes , he will not win trophys with utd ,

I'm hoping he would have passed on Fellaini though...

I suspect the time for getting in Fergie has passed now. 4th place has essentially gone - well, unless Arsenal really implode!!  The Champs League is a tricky proposition even when we're in the best of form, so, realistically, what could we achieve with Fergie in charge for a few months.

Back in December, though, it would have made some sense, since we still had a modest chance of 4th at that point, and that would have set us up nicely for a summer of rebuilding.    Ah well....

someone close to moyes really needs to have a word, the mans aging in front of our eyes and celebrating a goal at home against a bottom of the table side like a ch lg final winner is humiliating for him

High_lander, to a large extent you are correct with the champions league but the Utd team just hasn't got the solidity to beat better teams 3 times (assuming they get past Olympiakos).  Moyes is remarkably lucky to be under so little pressure from the media with regard to his job. It was clear by October he wasn't the man for the job. The squad is nowhere near as average as it's being made it out to be. Moyes has made mistake after mistake and now confidence is very low too.

Moyes a Champions League winner? you guys crack me up

I wouldnt sack Moyes
Last season MUFC got away with murder as refs were sh!t scared to go against anything Fergus said or did
Lets not forget that Man U have been bang average since ROnaldo left, rooney aside.
the midfield has been shorn of any creativity since beckham and keane went
It was Fergus power over the rest of the league that's meant they won 5 titles in the absence of Mourinho.
I mean last year when they had 3 opponents sent off at anfield and the bridge! What other team in the history of english football has
ever enjoyed that kind of advantage? All because Fergus piped up before both games that he never got any decisions there. Something
which is against the managers code of conduct and something he should have been disciplined over. But as usualy the FA were to frightened to upset the 'greatest manager of all time'.

At everton Moyes created stability, something he has to establish at OT
Famously he never won at Liv, Ars or Chels, but his teams rarely got taken apart the way Utd were at city and chelsea this season.
THere were plenty of draws at those 3 for everton in his time
Known as a conservative, pragmatic coach, these are the qualities he has to count on now
The road form is not bad suggesting that the likes of roo, rvp and januzaj will take advantage of the extra space they find away from home.
Clearly the home form is the problem. The old fergus bluster of 442, 2 wingers, intimidating refs and opponents wont cut it. Thats something he has to learn.
Moyes will have to build a new style of play, a modern continental style and Man U fans will have to suck it up

Looking to weds night, at Everton the game plan would have been natural for a Moyes team going to Arsnl
Pick a hard working team and get in and amongst them
Arsnl confidence cant be great the now, so Moyes needs to accept he is in charge of evfc again and let ars have the ball and park the
bus to some extent. Lord knows Fergus did it plenty of times

so a fantasy MOyes team of
DdG, Raf, Smalling, Vidic, Evra; Jones, Carrick(poss Fletcher), Valencia, Wellbred, Roo, Rvp
with a quiet word with mr roo imploring him to drop back into midfield when they havent got the ball (ie 60% of the time)
That ought to do the trick

On no account do you want to see, ashley young involved, nor Mata, they dont work hard enough. Januzaj is still too green for this
sort of occasion, the way he was bullied by chelsea shows he still has a lot to learn.

Man Utd over performed last season while there main rivals under performed , Moyes has been caught in a perfect storm , who do you replace him with ?