Football
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
05 Feb 14
00:58
Joined:
Date Joined:
04 Dec 06
May have been done before, so apologies if so, but is there any reason that the FA refuses to cite players (as in both codes of rugby) and retrospectively ban them for obvious cheating? I'm not talking about the odd shirt pull, but things like players taking a dive or that t!t Chico Flores rolling around like he's just been shot after a light tap to the head.
Say, for example, Steven Gerrard runs into the box, takes a huge swan dive and the referee waves play on, saying no pen. Why does the FA then refuse to look at the dive after the match and say there was no foul, he was deliberately cheating, let's give him a three match ban? Same for Chico - why does the FA refuse to look at this and say he's completely overreacted to get Carroll sent off, he's feigning injury...three match ban?
Say, for example, Steven Gerrard runs into the box, takes a huge swan dive and the referee waves play on, saying no pen. Why does the FA then refuse to look at the dive after the match and say there was no foul, he was deliberately cheating, let's give him a three match ban? Same for Chico - why does the FA refuse to look at this and say he's completely overreacted to get Carroll sent off, he's feigning injury...three match ban?
Show More
FA chairman Greg **** expressed his dissatisfaction with the current rules in October. He said: "It is understandably baffling to everyone and must be addressed.
"As FA chairman I don't like being in a position where I can't explain why we can't take action."
"As FA chairman I don't like being in a position where I can't explain why we can't take action."
take the op point
but you have to accept there was contact made on flores
his reaction may have been ott but its up to the ref to make the decision over violent conduct and he's not going to know if flores is play acting or not
Hell we dont even know to a certainty if he was play acting.
it didnt look good but maybe flores was in terrible pain, we plain just dont know
I always remember ashley cole broke his leg as a youngster and for years got a rep as a diver as he always used to jump out of the way of tackles. Simple self preservation was all it was but it got one or 2 players sent off
In such cases you would have to say it is up to the authorities to know what the score is.
This is what i would like to see
ANd even to my daft self it is one of the more harebrained schemes i have thought of.
Diving in the box should be treated like appeals in cricket.
If a player lets say ashley young takes a tumble in the box, if he wants a pen then he must ask the ref for one.
If he doesnt consult the ref then play on.
Now say the ref obliges gives the pen and then on video evidence we can see ashley hung a leg out and did indeed dive.
Then
the next match an edict comes down from the FA that on no account will the ref give ashley young a pen unless the ref is 100% sure.
If this ref gives ashley another pen and again video evidence shows ashley took a dive then that ref will get demoted from the refs list for the next week and ordered to go on retraining.
Im convinced the upshot of this will be that most refs will not consider giving young another pen for fear of their jobs
Young, will lose his place in the man utd side as it appears to me that is all he offers them
Eventually he will not have his contract renewed unless he improves as a player by which I mean he will have to stop diving.
Of course the main problem is that the forward players who go down in the box for soft pens are the main drivers of the appeal of the epl as a fast entertaining forward oriented league
There is a story going around that the epl refs attending a pre season conference were told by epl chief exec richard scudamore, in no uncertain terms, that they cant be sending off star players. This would affect the global brand if say rooney or suarez were missing 3 or 4 games.
More and more the epl is becoming show biz and not sport
but you have to accept there was contact made on flores
his reaction may have been ott but its up to the ref to make the decision over violent conduct and he's not going to know if flores is play acting or not
Hell we dont even know to a certainty if he was play acting.
it didnt look good but maybe flores was in terrible pain, we plain just dont know
I always remember ashley cole broke his leg as a youngster and for years got a rep as a diver as he always used to jump out of the way of tackles. Simple self preservation was all it was but it got one or 2 players sent off
In such cases you would have to say it is up to the authorities to know what the score is.
This is what i would like to see
ANd even to my daft self it is one of the more harebrained schemes i have thought of.
Diving in the box should be treated like appeals in cricket.
If a player lets say ashley young takes a tumble in the box, if he wants a pen then he must ask the ref for one.
If he doesnt consult the ref then play on.
Now say the ref obliges gives the pen and then on video evidence we can see ashley hung a leg out and did indeed dive.
Then
the next match an edict comes down from the FA that on no account will the ref give ashley young a pen unless the ref is 100% sure.
If this ref gives ashley another pen and again video evidence shows ashley took a dive then that ref will get demoted from the refs list for the next week and ordered to go on retraining.
Im convinced the upshot of this will be that most refs will not consider giving young another pen for fear of their jobs
Young, will lose his place in the man utd side as it appears to me that is all he offers them
Eventually he will not have his contract renewed unless he improves as a player by which I mean he will have to stop diving.
Of course the main problem is that the forward players who go down in the box for soft pens are the main drivers of the appeal of the epl as a fast entertaining forward oriented league
There is a story going around that the epl refs attending a pre season conference were told by epl chief exec richard scudamore, in no uncertain terms, that they cant be sending off star players. This would affect the global brand if say rooney or suarez were missing 3 or 4 games.
More and more the epl is becoming show biz and not sport
I have no doubt that over 90% of premier league players have cheated
Be it for claiming a free kick, corner or throw in (when they know they are wrong) or the standard diving, shirt pulling or feigning injury to get others booked/sent off
Unfortunately, to win by cheating is acceptable to virtually all prem club players/officials (though they will never even consider this as cheating) and I'd go as far as to say that its part of their training tactics
Even the best refs have no chance against these hoodwinkers, because the interpretation of the rules and the refs chances of getting to the top are vital parts in a sport that has too long been ruled by money rather than honesty.
Be it for claiming a free kick, corner or throw in (when they know they are wrong) or the standard diving, shirt pulling or feigning injury to get others booked/sent off
Unfortunately, to win by cheating is acceptable to virtually all prem club players/officials (though they will never even consider this as cheating) and I'd go as far as to say that its part of their training tactics
Even the best refs have no chance against these hoodwinkers, because the interpretation of the rules and the refs chances of getting to the top are vital parts in a sport that has too long been ruled by money rather than honesty.
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539