Football
Every game, week in week out, hold your heads in shame you VILE FANS
Should be a lengthy ban, maybe 10 home matches behind closed doors...
in reality it will be £50 and a dont do it again
http://www.livesoccertv.com/news/8572/back-to-stone-age-liverpool-fans-throw-rocks-at-tigers-bus/
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/watch-video-shows-flare-thrown-6104532
Vile?
Better not mention the wall they pushed over
http://espnfc.com/news/story?id=362170&cc=5739
Anfield admits excrement thrown at Utd fans
Liverpool have apologised to Manchester United for the behaviour of their fans during last month's highly-charged FA Cup tie at Anfield.
The club and Merseyside Police have carried out an investigation after a number of incidents where United fans at the Anfield Road end were attacked by home supporters.
There was one incident of human excrement being thrown towards United supporters as well as coins and food being aimed in their direction.
Liverpool stadium and operations manager Ged Poynton has written to United admitting standards of behaviour had 'fallen short' of that expected.
Poynton added in the News of the World: 'We hold our hands up as a club. We deplore what certain fans have done.
'I use the word coward very reservedly but I class anyone who wants to throw a coin or something else when they are leaving as cowards.
'I am ashamed to admit in one case excrement was thrown. How low can you get? We did what we could, we tried to brush people down and compensate those involved.'
Tensions between the rivals had been running higher than usual going into the February 18 match - won 1-0 by Liverpool - after a controversial end to a Premiership encounter between the sides the previous month.
United's Gary Neville had run to celebrate in front of Liverpool fans after Rio Ferdinand headed a later winner at Old Trafford.
VILE
Jan 29, 2014 -- 4:18PM, PillHead wrote:
You Liverpool fans should read the report on the Heysal disaster about Liverpool fans KILLING italian supporters before you criticise others
being that you are unable to spell Heysel, i very much doubt you've read the any reports concerning this disaster.
nowhere is it mentioned that a single liverpool fan 'killed' a juventus fan. did any of them have the mens rea of intent to kill? i very much doubt that. obviously you could claim that they were objectively reckless.
what happened is that liverpool and juventus fans were stood feet apart, violence began, liverpool fans outnumbered juventus fans in this area, the juventus fans fled, chased by liverpool fans. the wall they fled over collapsed and killed 39 people.
obviously the deaths were the fault of idiot football fans fighting eachother.
given that your name is 'pillhead' i imagine much of this will go straight over your head.
put a load of fascist italian fans next to a load of english 1980's football fans and they're is going to be trouble.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 5:26PM, jed.davison wrote:
The two minors, four Belgians, Two Frenchmen amd one Ulstermen, they were Italian Fascists?
they probably weren't fighting, innocent victims. not condoning what happened, just saying nobody beat anybody to death, it was a tragedy, and would have happened with any english team.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 5:44PM, PillHead wrote:
fourteen Liverpool fans found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and each sentenced to three years' imprisonment.
well read from wiki.
get back to dropping pills you angry little man.
Twelve arrested over football hooliganism
after early morning Mersey police raids
Police carried out synchronised raids on homes of 10 Liverpool FC supporters officers
believe to have been involved in a pub brawl after a Liverpool home game in December.
A 24-year-old man at a property on Lyme Cross Road in Huyton, was arrested on
suspicion of violent disorder and on suspicion of section 18 wounding after an Oldham
Athletic fan was stabbed after a match at Anfield earlier this month.
Only this week in the LFC Echo no less.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 6:45PM, Insanity Later wrote:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/twelve-arrested-over-football-hooliganism-6553855Twelve arrested over football hooliganism after early morning Mersey police raidsPolice carried out synchronised raids on homes of 10 Liverpool FC supporters officers believe to have been involved in a pub brawl after a Liverpool home game in December.A 24-year-old man at a property on Lyme Cross Road in Huyton, was arrested on suspicion of violent disorder and on suspicion of section 18 wounding after an Oldham Athletic fan was stabbed after a match at Anfield earlier this month.Only this week in the LFC Echo no less.
i could find an article about nearly every clubs fans stabbing, beating, racially abusing somebody.
well done
Jan 29, 2014 -- 7:14PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
its never your fault
its a disgusting song to sing that. aimed at us by man utd fans about hillsbrough.
hope you feel proud you small minded oaf.
your playing the victim again
Jan 29, 2014 -- 8:46PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
its not about hillsbrough,your playing the victim again
whats it about then?
"always the victims never your fault" is a song, sung by small minded man utd fans at us. much like "whose that dy*** in the runway" is sung by our section of braindead muppets at them.
so explain how that can relate to anything else?
Seriously, why?
this is a thread started by a Liverpool fan, having ago at Everton fans.
Throughout the thread, it has been proven Liverpool fans are not just as bad as Everton fans, but worse.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 8:48PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
why did you even bring up the Hillsborough tragedy?Seriously, why?this is a thread started by a Liverpool fan, having ago at Everton fans.Throughout the thread, it has been proven Liverpool fans are not just as bad as Everton fans, but worse.
shows how small minded you are.....so every liverpool fan killed people at heysel? every club has idiots, end of.
what you've done is use a very well known song to mock something terrible, and you don't like being called out on it.
The majority of Everton fans (Not All) are stuck in a bye gone era, they are absolutely vile and could not havea chat about the game without almost getting into a physical altercation on most occasions or retorting to something totally verbally bang out of order, you know the normal ones when it comes disccusing the 2 teams in the city. They are so agressive it is unreal. Im saying this as a neutral. I see it in the city of Liverpool, the contrast between a Evertonian and Liverpool fan is amazing overall, the Everton. Everton fans need to come into the year 2014, this is not 1970's now lads with the attitude you show at a football game, throwing coins at players. Awful show from Everton fans last night, the club needs to be deducted points to learn a lesson and weed out the scumbags.
your looking around for something to offend you.
Nice to have a neutral view from a newbie.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 9:00PM, Solano1 wrote:
Voice of reason. Nice to have a neutral view from a newbie.
HAHA
He is a Liverpool fan, admits it on another thread.
Oh well.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 8:56PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
nothing to do with hillsborough, the fact you claim it is is shocking.your looking around for something to offend you.
so what has it anything to do with then?
please explain your reason for choosing that song......im sure you know exactly when its sung and for what reason.
so why use it here?
Or are you going to claim he was innocent as well?
pathetic, mocking the dead. i hope nothing like that ever happens to you, family or friends.
your doing your best to make it about hillsborough to silence people, but as you know, everton fans dont and would never sing about hillsborough.
and you have totally ignored the point of this thread.
well done.
you're avoiding answering the question, what was always the victims never your fault mentioned in relation to in this thread?
So Dav - you have not explained why you used it here and I am afraid for anyone just looking in you have lost the argument
Jan 29, 2014 -- 9:12PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
its sung because of the suarez incident, and liverpool football club and its fans all tried to claim he was innocent when the whole world knew he was banged to rights.Or are you going to claim he was innocent as well?
said it twice now.
and where has suarez been mentioned here?
remember the t-shirts?
Jan 29, 2014 -- 9:32PM, punter66 wrote:
steview84 look at the thread who started lad use lot so get yourself of to bed now little boy
what has that to do with it? so a liverpool fan started the thread, so everton fans/other fans can offer any insults they please, no matter how distasteful or untrue?
judging by your command of the language you're one of the knobs that give scousers a bad name. 'use'. pathetic.
you havent spelt Hillsborough correctly yet.
Jan 29, 2014 -- 9:34PM, Dav_vin03 wrote:
i dont know if it was or if it was not, im not a man united fan and i dont attend liverpool games and listen to every word away fans sing.
you know full well what its about, and are backtracking now. at least have the courage to speak your mind if you think we weren't victims there, instead of nasty, spiteful remarks.
Yet at Anfield i fear for my saftey every time, a complete different aptmosphere and you could spit between the two grounds, hate going to Anfield.
Always the victim is about Micheal Shields/Suarez
Nothing to see here!
Even when it causes distress to his fellow Liverpool fans.
I bet you he's w@nking over the keyboard at all this attention
Four minutes in to Manchester United’s 4-0 win over Wigan, the Stretford End starting singing the Luis Suarez “racist bastard” chant. The chant that followed was “always the victims, it’s never their fault“. This is a standard occurrence at Old Trafford and United’s away games, dating back to almost a year ago following Liverpool FC’s refusal to accept that Luis Suarez was guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra.
These two songs have been sung every week, not by a quiet minority but by 1,000s of United fans. It is also sung by Everton fans who have been widely praised for their respectful behaviour ahead of their game against Newcastle this week.
Whilst it was Liverpool’s reaction to Suarez’s guilt that lead to the creation of the song, there are deeper meanings behind it. It’s likely that some people singing it are purely referring to Suarez but I’d guess the vast majority are referring to the nature of scousers in general. The stereotype being that they are a whining, grief-hungry bunch of victims, who revel in self-pity and aren’t prepared to take responsibility for their own actions.
Last weekend, the press decided to tell us that we were in fact singing about Hillsborough, after previously unreleased documents about the tragedy had been made available to the public earlier that week. Ben Smith from the BBC was the first to stir it up and then other media outlets followed. The Daily Express went with the headline: “Manchester United fans mock Hillsborough tragedy”. It’s incredible that they could publish an article with such an emotive, irresponsible, but most importantly, untrue headline.
Mick Dennis, The Express, wrote: They chanted about Liverpool supporters during the match against Wigan, singing: “Always the victims, it’s never your fault.” Later, the Manchester United Supporters Trust issued a mealy-mouthed statement in which they said those chants “didn’t refer to Hillsborough”. But you cannot clarify the meaning of abusive songs several hours later. And the point about the report of the Hillsborough disaster was that Liverpool fans were absolutely not to blame. They were victims of a truly terrible disaster and then victims again of a reprehensible cover-up. And so the chants at United were wretched and base. No ifs and buts. No debate.
I’m not writing this to claim that United fans are whiter than white. Unfortunately, no football club can claim to have fans who have never sung about something they shouldn’t have. I’m writing this because no media outlet has attempted to explain the reasons behind the chant, instead parcelling it off as sick and disrespectful, suggesting that United’s fanbase is full to the brim with people who would mock the deaths of 96 innocent people, and have been belting that song out every single week with the thoughts of those that died at Hillsborough on our mind. That quite simply is a lie and only serves to make it almost certain that this weekend there will be chants of the clubs’ tragedies from both sides. Liverpool fans will (rightly?) want to react, although they are reacting to something that didn’t even happen, which will (rightly?) mean United fans respond.
Of course we have some idiots who chant about Hillsborough and they bring shame on the club, but to suggest that 1000s of us are chanting about Hillsborough every game, and have been doing for almost a year, is beyond ridiculous. All clubs have an idiotic minority but this song is sung en masse by people who wouldn’t ever consider using Hillsborough as a tool to wind up a rival. Yes, we hate scousers, but Hillsborough was about sons, daughters, mothers and fathers, it was about people, not Liverpool FC, and if you can’t differentiate between the deaths of human beings and the deaths of Liverpool fans, thinking one is worthy of ridicule and mocking, there is something very wrong with you.
In reaction to the claims from the press, the Manchester United Supporters Trust quickly released a statement to clarify that despite what had been reported, the “always the victims, it’s never your fault” chant did not originate with thoughts of Hillsborough.
