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This is a serious genuine point based on facts
England have had a lot of bad luck in World Cups over the years
1986: Knocked out a cheating Argie, second wonder goal being irrelevant as if the first was never scored the pattern of lay would have been completely different, he'd never have picked the ball up where he did etc.
1990 - Knocked out on Penalties in the Semi's
1994 - Didn't play
1998 - Knocked out on penalties playing with 10 men
2002 - Knocked out by a jammy cross come shot and Beckham jumping out of a tackle leading to the second goal, both after England lead.
2006 - Knocked out on penalities
2010 - Knocked out in the second round, game could have been completely different had Lampards goal whi ch was 200 meters over the line, had stood
2014 - Potential Winners
33/1 represents good value, we can't keep getting knocked out on penalties, it's our time.
England have had a lot of bad luck in World Cups over the years
1986: Knocked out a cheating Argie, second wonder goal being irrelevant as if the first was never scored the pattern of lay would have been completely different, he'd never have picked the ball up where he did etc.
1990 - Knocked out on Penalties in the Semi's
1994 - Didn't play
1998 - Knocked out on penalties playing with 10 men
2002 - Knocked out by a jammy cross come shot and Beckham jumping out of a tackle leading to the second goal, both after England lead.
2006 - Knocked out on penalities
2010 - Knocked out in the second round, game could have been completely different had Lampards goal whi ch was 200 meters over the line, had stood
2014 - Potential Winners
33/1 represents good value, we can't keep getting knocked out on penalties, it's our time.
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1986 Lost
1990 Lost
1994 Lost
1998 Lost
2002 Lost
2006 Lost
2010 Lost
33/1 looks a stonking bet count me in.
1990 Lost
1994 Lost
1998 Lost
2002 Lost
2006 Lost
2010 Lost
33/1 looks a stonking bet count me in.
It's 7 matches, Italy are n =o world beaters neither are Uruguay, Costa Rica are actually better than people give credit for but should still be no match for us.
We'll then draw one from Japan, Greece, Columbia or Ivory Coast - I'm quaking in my boots
After topping the group and seeing off Columbia we'll face a fading Spanish side and then Brazil with the overrated Neymer, all of which the pressure will be too much being a home tournament, never mind the Considerations Cup, this is the real deal and in the Final up step Germany, 2-0 England.
We'll then draw one from Japan, Greece, Columbia or Ivory Coast - I'm quaking in my boots
After topping the group and seeing off Columbia we'll face a fading Spanish side and then Brazil with the overrated Neymer, all of which the pressure will be too much being a home tournament, never mind the Considerations Cup, this is the real deal and in the Final up step Germany, 2-0 England.
When it's 333/1, I might have a fiver on for a bit of interest.
No mention of argies or germany? not a pups hance against either 
Judging by the time of post I would imagine the OP has had a few large ones ,fair play for ur optimism and I wish them luck
but their performance in 2010 although prob irrelevant was just sick ,we are an average side couldnt be much shorter than 33s ..
I will probably have a small bet at that price if only for something to dream about
but their performance in 2010 although prob irrelevant was just sick ,we are an average side couldnt be much shorter than 33s ..
I will probably have a small bet at that price if only for something to dream about
I'll sum up the opening post.
"If we didn't lose we would have won."
"If we didn't lose we would have won."
Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World Cup, still time to take advantage before the patriotic money comes flooding in come May/June
roughly translated means can everybody please back england and shorten up the price so that I can lay off my bet and green up.
I'm not that confident.
I'm not that confident.
that's what i thought as well, there is no case for england at all
Mesmerised they will not get out of the group. I actually would like if they did but they won't. Italy will have too much for England as will Uruguay. England will be like lambs to the slaughter in the heat. If you think they would come close to Japan's high tempo game you are off your rocker. Colombia in South America, Ivort Coast are not great but would probably beat England, if and it is a huge if they qualified, Greece are the best bet for ye. Good luck what ever happens.
mesmerised 05 Mar 14 22:00
Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World Cup, still time to take advantage before the patriotic money comes flooding in come May/June
The same Denmark who were humped at home by Armenia (who are not bad), humiliated though. Give me a break.
Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World Cup, still time to take advantage before the patriotic money comes flooding in come May/June
The same Denmark who were humped at home by Armenia (who are not bad), humiliated though. Give me a break.
Mesmerised they will not get out of the group. I actually would like if they did but they won't. Italy will have too much for England as will Uruguay. England will be like lambs to the slaughter in the heat. If you think they would come close to Japan's high tempo game you are off your rocker. Colombia in South America, Ivort Coast are not great but would probably beat England, if and it is a huge if they qualified, Greece are the best bet for ye. Good luck what ever happens.
Whatever country you are from, you are clearly Anti English. Who in their right mind would be worried about Japan they are always the same, run about like headless chickens, but get undone on the break very easily. Very god in qualifying in Asia but that's it, even Belarus beat them in a friendly - Belarus, and No Offence, and what is "Columbia in South America" meant to mean? have they never lost a match in South America? if we got them next, it would be in the south of the Country which in July in Brazil is not hot, more like 20°c.
We will beat Italy and Uruguay.
Whatever country you are from, you are clearly Anti English. Who in their right mind would be worried about Japan
they are always the same, run about like headless chickens, but get undone on the break very easily. Very god in qualifying in Asia but that's it, even Belarus beat them in a friendly - Belarus, and No Offence, and what is "Columbia in South America" meant to mean? have they never lost a match in South America? if we got them next, it would be in the south of the Country which in July in Brazil is not hot, more like 20°c. We will beat Italy and Uruguay.
Not a snowballs chance in hell of winning the World Cup (Eng) 
If you have got the big bank to cover it, lay plenty.
If you have got the big bank to cover it, lay plenty.
mesmerised 05 Mar 14 22:00
Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World Cup
Was this the same Danish side who didn't even play their best player, had the Leicester keeper in goal, a Fulham reserve in midfield and had Bendtner up front and who in the past year have been humped by Macedonia and Armenia?
The rest of the world must be running scared after such a resounding 1-0 victory.
Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World Cup
Was this the same Danish side who didn't even play their best player, had the Leicester keeper in goal, a Fulham reserve in midfield and had Bendtner up front and who in the past year have been humped by Macedonia and Armenia?
The rest of the world must be running scared after such a resounding 1-0 victory.
I am confused. I watch MOTD nearly every week and my understanding is that the England team is so full of WORLD CLASS players that they are basically a cert...............again.
Mar 6, 2014 -- 4:35PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:
mesmerised 05 Mar 14 22:00 Strong 1-0 home win against a resilient Danish side unlucky not to make the World CupWas this the same Danish side who didn't even play their best player, had the Leicester keeper in goal, a Fulham reserve in midfield and had Bendtner up front and who in the past year have been humped by Macedonia and Armenia?The rest of the world must be running scared after such a resounding 1-0 victory.
True to form, Fibcuits trots out stats like nobody's business, do you watch football Biscuit? Schmeichel looked a top draw keeper last night and has been linked with a move to Milan. You don't want to take Denmark seriously, then how about Brazil - Wilshere was man of the match.
I have got on but not to lay off before the off, I'll green up in case we're robbed on penalties again after the group stages, the difference this year is that A)there is no expectation and with no expectation comes a lot less pressure, we are not hyped up the way we have been since I've been following England (96), B) the mentality is different, the golden generation have all but died along with the egos they carried, C) with Wilshere out for 6 weeks, he will get that extra bit of rest to be fresh for the plane.
There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
Linked to Milan .
A club that is as good as bust, can barely afford a player, all in on loa and they recently got Tarrabt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
. A club that is as good as bust, can barely afford a player, all in on loa and they recently got Tarrabt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think you are a complete wind up merchant Mes ,you just love to start controversial threads , IBRAHIMOVIC was another recent wind up by yourself
Inter Milan are 5th in Serie A and are currently rebuilding, going from the Walker Bowel to the San Siro is a big step up whichever way you look at it, and last night he looked just like his dad - Tarrabt is a good player who just hard to handle.
What exactly waas controversial about everybody's mate 'Ibra' ? I said he is the most overrated player of his generation - which he is, nothing controversial about it, just a fact.
What exactly waas controversial about everybody's mate 'Ibra' ? I said he is the most overrated player of his generation - which he is, nothing controversial about it, just a fact.
What have Inter got to do with things, you said he was linked with Milan?
And as for your little rant, nothing in my post was untrue. I couldn't care less who he's linked with, the fact is he's still the Leicester keeper and Denmark are a very average side who've been soundly beaten by poor sides recently. A narrow 1-0 victory over them is most definitely not something to write home about.
And as for your little rant, nothing in my post was untrue. I couldn't care less who he's linked with, the fact is he's still the Leicester keeper and Denmark are a very average side who've been soundly beaten by poor sides recently. A narrow 1-0 victory over them is most definitely not something to write home about.
What rant, my post to you was two lines long
So he's with Leicester that makes him average does it? that mentality is why England have failed over the years, constantly picking a squad from the big clubs, now with the likes of Lallana,shaw baines, Jagielka etc we actually have players who care about playing the national team, also, you're overplaying the whole Denmark thing, the World cup is what matters, if the majority of people were right, than the majority of people would be winning on Betfair, the majority don't.
So he's with Leicester that makes him average does it? that mentality is why England have failed over the years, constantly picking a squad from the big clubs, now with the likes of Lallana,shaw baines, Jagielka etc we actually have players who care about playing the national team, also, you're overplaying the whole Denmark thing, the World cup is what matters, if the majority of people were right, than the majority of people would be winning on Betfair, the majority don't.
I semi agree with the post above as when i look at Chile and how their players play it is poles apart from some clubs these lads are at. Beausujour looks like a fine player when with Chile when he is average at best, fine side btw. PS Don't dis Japan Mes, a very good outfit.
Mar 6, 2014 -- 5:37PM, jon b wrote:
i think you are a complete wind up merchant Mes ,you just love to start controversial threads , IBRAHIMOVIC was another recent wind up by yourself
Of course he is. I can't take a word he says seriously.
England look so slow. I know there's no point in a hundred mile an hour football but last night was very poor. I don't think roy knows what system to play. Sturridge out wide is wrong he's got to be in the middle. England's problem over the years is they can't keep the ball. Out in Brazil against the better sides they will be chasing the ball and will end up shattered. English players playing for england all seem scared to make errors and want to get rid of the ball as quick as possible. It comes down to technical ability and against the top teams england lack it.
Lol, The OP must be smoking crack.
I would want odds of 33/1 for England not to finish bottom of the group, let alone actually win a tournament.
Ibrahimovich is one of the greatest footballers to have ever graced the planet, if you want overated then just look at Taarabt
I would want odds of 33/1 for England not to finish bottom of the group, let alone actually win a tournament.
Ibrahimovich is one of the greatest footballers to have ever graced the planet, if you want overated then just look at Taarabt
Sorry I missed your post about Wilshere being fit and fresh for the plane...I bloody hope not as Lallana made Wilshere look like a chump last night. Milner or Carrick over Wilshere anyday, all Wilshere is good at is beating up his Mrs.
What part are you all struggling to understand, we are England not Guam, a dot on the map.
What would you have all said if I told you in March 2004 that Greece were going to win the European Championships? you would have said the same thing you're saying now, "I'll lay you whatever odds you want", that's because you seem to suffer from cognitive biasm when it money, think outside the box, just because certain teams are talked up doesn't mean that they will win.
What would you have all said if I told you in March 2004 that Greece were going to win the European Championships? you would have said the same thing you're saying now, "I'll lay you whatever odds you want", that's because you seem to suffer from cognitive biasm when it money, think outside the box, just because certain teams are talked up doesn't mean that they will win.
Well you wouldn't have said that Greece would win the euro's because you probably had about 10 open posts about England winning it.
There's patriotic and idiotic..... I'm the former, you are the latter.
P.S. England are nothing but a small dot on the map (America's Bitch)
There's patriotic and idiotic..... I'm the former, you are the latter.
P.S. England are nothing but a small dot on the map (America's Bitch)
Tbh ,England have a good team but the south american Heat factor is big for any European Team...
Come back after the World Cup and we'll talk, until then, refrain from embarrassing yourself.
gotia 06 Mar 14 22:55
Tbh ,England have a good team but the south american Heat factor is big for any European Team...
Have to say i disagree, how can you say they are good. What part of being absolutely dominated by an average enough Italy in the last euros do you not remember. Someone said it before, the main problem is retaining possesion. We find it impossible.
Tbh ,England have a good team but the south american Heat factor is big for any European Team...
Have to say i disagree, how can you say they are good. What part of being absolutely dominated by an average enough Italy in the last euros do you not remember. Someone said it before, the main problem is retaining possesion. We find it impossible.
Now that my broadband is back I'll review the England V Denmark game.
England looked pedestrian. Midfield and defence looked slow.
The question is has the manager the courage to drop the sacred cows?
England looked pedestrian. Midfield and defence looked slow.
The question is has the manager the courage to drop the sacred cows?
I'm on board mesmerised, looking forward to laughing at Johnny Foreigner come summer time 
If you want a value 30-1+ shout, try Colombia (34s on here) or Chile (50s).
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