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13 Nov 13 16:41
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Uruguay and Mexico v  Jordan and New Zealand. Doesn't seem right.

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By:
Howdi
When: 13 Nov 13 16:51
NEW ZEALAND ARE CHANGING THE SHAPE OF THE BALLB BE WARE
By:
joe9000
When: 13 Nov 13 16:58
What "doesn't seem right" is your poor geography...

Mexico is in North America ffs
By:
anton66
When: 13 Nov 13 17:05
You know what I mean soft lad.
By:
marychain1
When: 13 Nov 13 17:11
would you prefer it if Europe got only 4 places and 1 play off "bye"?
By:
marychain1
When: 13 Nov 13 17:13
Who plays who in the WC play offs rotates anyway. This year it is Asia v South America and North America v Oceania. Last time it was South America v North America (Uruguay beat Costa Rica). Before that Uruguay lost to Australia (back in the days when they were still Oceania).
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 13 Nov 13 17:13
Uruguay should've had to play Denmark instead of Jordan
By:
anton66
When: 13 Nov 13 17:39
Almost 50% from the S.American W,C qualifying  league actually go through to the world cup.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 17:42

Nov 13, 2013 -- 5:39PM, anton66 wrote:


Almost 50% from the S.American W,C qualifying

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 17:44
anton66 • November 13, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
Almost 50% from the S.American W,C qualifying  league actually go through to the world cup.


60% of its members. Not quite the global game methinks. Even if they are the better teams.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Nov 13 17:45
and rightly so when 5 of the top 12 in the world rankings are from South america
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 17:53

Nov 13, 2013 -- 5:45PM, Biscuit1979 wrote:


and rightly so when 5 of the top 12 in the world rankings are from South america


While I understand why you've said it, I'm not sure I agree with that argument though. Being guaranteed qualification to the World Cup, etc, guarantees more FIFA ranking points anyway, so it's a vicious circle. While CONMEBOL keep getting vastly more spots than any other confederation in terms of percentages, they will also continue to dominate the World rankings. They might well be the best teams, but the current set up ensures they will always be at the top of the rankings.

By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 13 Nov 13 17:55
The top 7 ranked teams who won't make it are all European.  Denmark, having finished second should have at least faced a play off.
By:
anton66
When: 13 Nov 13 19:20
That's correct Biscuit. I forgot about those world beaters Uruguay, Chile, Colombia and Ecuador. Fifa rankings dont you just love them.
By:
mafeking
When: 13 Nov 13 20:30
if you're taking the rankings as gospel then 20 out of 32 at the world cup should be european instead of the risible 13

ludicrous that there are a similar number from africa, asia and concacaf as europe then again the likes of denmark and sweden don't keep old sepp in a job
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 20:35

Nov 13, 2013 -- 8:30PM, mafeking wrote:


if you're taking the rankings as gospel then 20 out of 32 at the world cup should be european instead of the risible 13ludicrous that there are a similar number from africa, asia and concacaf as europe then again the likes of denmark and sweden don't keep old sepp in a job


Except it's called a World Cup, not a World Championships. For me, FIFA should just ditch the pointless Confederations Cup and replace it with some form of World Championships, even if it's still only eight teams.

By:
Tony Broke
When: 13 Nov 13 20:35
there will be a few decent European sides out come fir, mex and Uruguay have had it easy,and don't deserve their place,specially Uruguay who only finished 5th in group with hardly any more than that and without brazil
By:
mafeking
When: 13 Nov 13 20:50
mexico are the luckiest side. won 2 out of 10 scoring only 7 goals in that joke region and only scraped into a play off cos panama bottled it

it's virtually impossible for mexico not to qualify under current rules
By:
Rasiak9
When: 13 Nov 13 21:50
It really was crazy how Mexico actually managed to come within a hairs breadth of failing to qualify. Jamaica, USA, Panama, Honduras and Costa Rica, and they were a minute away from managing to finish below four of those five. Incredible.

Considering the size of the nation/its population and popularity of football, its realistic to say they'll never fail to qualify for a World Cup under the current rules and certainly are the nation with the easiest route to qualification.
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Nov 13 22:00
CONCACAF used to get 1 place when there were 16 teams in the World Cup

Now they get 3 guaranteed + a 4th if they win a play off vs a mug team
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Nov 13 22:21
anton66 13 Nov 13 19:20 
That's correct Biscuit. I forgot about those world beaters Uruguay, Chile, Colombia and Ecuador. Fifa rankings dont you just love them.



Uruguay are the current South american champions. Chile are decent and play great football, which we should see on friday. Colombia have Falcao and a number of other good players. So i for one am glad they're going to the world cup over some mugs from the far east. Ecuador i'll give you though, they only qualify because they play home games on mount everest and the away sides can't breathe.

But on todays evidence i'm quite glad we won't be having Jordan or NZ at the world cup.
By:
china castle
When: 13 Nov 13 22:25
Why not have 31 groups of 6/7 teams and the winner of each group qualifies along with the host.

Seed the top 31 in the world rankings so they are kept apart.
By:
Stringer
When: 13 Nov 13 22:27
That's correct Biscuit. I forgot about those world beaters Uruguay, Chile, Colombia and Ecuador. Fifa rankings dont you just love them.

What the hell are you suggesting? That only world beaters should get entry into the worldcup? lol wat?
By:
marychain1
When: 13 Nov 13 22:28
Ecuador are good. They beat Portugal 3-2 in Portugal and they battered Germany when they played them recently even though they lost 4-1.  they should have scored at least 4 themselves, just kept getting done on the break.
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 13 Nov 13 22:29
arent they talking about increasing it to 40 teams - platinis suggestion i think ,as blatter wants more non-european teams , and platini doesnt want to cut the european allocation to accomodate
By:
Stringer
When: 13 Nov 13 22:29
Give me Ecuador over some mugs like Greece or Romania anyday
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Nov 13 22:33
Ecuador have some decent players but the fact is they would NEVER qualify if they didn't play home games on the moon.

Their home record in qualifying, W7 D1
Away record W0 D3 L5
By:
marychain1
When: 13 Nov 13 22:36
That's true, but a number of European teams who have qualified would have similar away records against Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 22:37

Nov 13, 2013 -- 10:29PM, gotitwrong- wrote:


arent they talking about increasing it to 40 teams - platinis suggestion i think ,as blatter wants more non-european teams , and platini doesnt want to cut the european allocation to accomodate


Platini is right that the European allocation shouldn't be cut. South America are hugely over-represented in terms of the number of their members.

By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Nov 13 22:38
Fair point
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 13 Nov 13 22:38
the more the merrier i say -i think it would increase the time taken to play the tournament by a week
By:
cricnut
When: 13 Nov 13 22:48
It wants shortening by a week, not lengthening, theres far too many garbage teams going now, without, adding any more rubbish to the tournament.
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Nov 13 22:56
40 teams would be a farce

You would have 8 X 5 team groups , with only the bottom team being eliminated in a group stage that would last about 18 days

Then 32 team knockout Crazy
By:
tobermory
When: 13 Nov 13 22:59
Platini has already fkd up the Euros with a 24 team format so it will probably happen
By:
ocukstinky
When: 13 Nov 13 23:13

Nov 13, 2013 -- 10:56PM, tobermory wrote:


40 teams would be a farce You would have 8 X 5 team groups , with only the bottom team being eliminated in a group stage that would last about 18 daysThen 32 team knockout


Or top 2 from 5 as opposed to top 2 from 4..

By:
tobermory
When: 13 Nov 13 23:20
well yes that would make more sense tbf Blush

though , still you have the scenario of one team finishing their group games and the other teams knowing what result they need to get above them
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 13 Nov 13 23:21
i think it was as ocustinky suggests , top 2 from 5 , that was being proposed
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Nov 13 23:22

Nov 13, 2013 -- 11:20PM, tobermory wrote:


well yes that would make more sense tbf though , still you have the scenario of one team finishing their group games and the other teams knowing what result they need to get above them


Yep. And a potential return of dodgy matches a la Argentina-Peru or the German-Austrian Anschluss.

By:
Srichaphan or Ancic?
When: 13 Nov 13 23:56
If it was fair each continent would get the equivalent to the number of countries in that continent..

Europe 7
North America 6
South America 2
Asia 7
Africa 7
Oceania 3
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 13 Nov 13 23:59
In this case i think being fair would totally devalue the tournament. It's fine as it is.
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