Is the Bundesliga the 'best in the world' ?

Schalke 04 - 0 Chelsea - 3

I actually think now the Premier League has the most quality spread over the league, this is thanks to the extra Sky money. Look at teams like Southampton and Swansea for example. However the very top teams remaining in Germany and Spain.

The Bundesliga appears to have a better structure in place. I think they will pull away. They have German owners, better stadiums, cheaper matchday experience and plenty of German born players in their teams. We will see what happens, but the more tycoons that buy English clubs, the more i have my doubts. Look at Cardiff.

Obviously they're Welsh, but you know what i mean.

i agree with hamsterdam

Graeme83 I agree they have a good structure but I don't think those lesser German teams generate the financial streams the lesser teams in the EPL do, thanks to the bumper Sky cash of course. This means the EPL clubs can cherry pick other leagues....they've already raided La Liga.

[i]he Bundesliga appears to have a better structure in place. I think they will pull away. They have German owners, better stadiums, cheaper matchday experience and plenty of German born players in their teams.[/i

I assume "Better" means better at playing football. Therefore the stadiums and ticket prices and locally born players are irrelevant. You could make a case that the German Clubs will do better under the FFP rules but these will surely be fudged in typical European stlye and so will be irrelevant.

At the moment the Bundesliga is on an all-time high and they have two great teams and one decent team. How do you think permanenet Bundesliga teams like Freiburg or Mainz would do in Spain or England ?

uz chermans are zee greatest fussball teams in zee vorld..vee vill return wizz our tankz and rule ze vorld vee r zee maztarace..deutschland uber alles!!!

any country that names a city after a sausage can't be taken seriously imo

Some countries are so frivolous that they name towns after Sports - at least you can eat a sausage.

"I assume "Better" means better at playing football. Therefore the stadiums and ticket prices and locally born players are irrelevant. You could make a case that the German Clubs will do better under the FFP rules but these will surely be fudged in typical European stlye and so will be irrelevant."



Better package - football, stadiums, owners and overall structure. I'm sure the Germans see their league the way the English do the EPL. All we get is the repetitive English perspective, which involves dragging out the 'best league in the world' phrase about 80-200 times a day.

I lived in Stuttgart from 2001 to 2012. Let me bust a few myths.

Ticket Prices are not much cheaper than the PL. IF (big IF) you are a season ticket holder it is a bit cheaper and if you can get a standing ticket it is also only about 25€. Great. Most pay way more and for those going twice a year like me it is about 50€ to get in to see VfB Stuttgart who are mostly sh!t.

Owners. The 50+1 model is held to be progressive but IMO holds back investment in smaller clus and hands the power to the big boy and his cousin Dortmund. Anti-competitive.

More local players. There are a few more German players playing in the BL than English in the PL. Not many more , so what ? I never understood why this is an issue. Competition is always a good thinbg. I would welcome more foreigners in my league...

The answer to the OP's question is no.

The bundesliga has 2 very good sides but then not much else. Schalke just destroyed at home by Chelsea. Leverkusen easily beaten by United a few weeks ago.

No league can claim to be the best in the world when it's best side can just cherry pick players from the 2nd best side.

However in terms of stadiums, ticket pricing, club owners etc then yes it's the best.

Biscuit, how much did you pay for your last ticket in Deutschland ?

See my comment above

"The average price for the cheapest ticket in the Bundesliga is £10.33 and the average cost of the lowest price adult season ticket is £207.22, compared to £28.30 and £467.95 respectively in the English Premier League"

is that the same as saying you have never been to a german game biccy?

So you have never been.

That is all fine and dandy but pls. don`t trot out what you read in the paper. The BL is a fine league and run well and is perfectly respectable but don`t make it out to be more than that just because a journalist told you so..

Nope never been to a german league game. Not sure what that has to do with anything though, it's widely accepted that the german league has cheap tickets.

Just had a quick look online, tickets for Stuttgarts next home game readily available for €26.

https://ssl.vfb.de/tickets/default.php?cPath=621_622&sort=1a&page=3

Not quite the hard to come by €50 you'd have us believe.

Those tickets are for AWAY FANS ONLY. Use Google translate if skeptical

You and I would never get in with such a ticket. TBF you could get a ticket for this Football classic for just €43.50

which town is named after a sausage?

bundesliga? there is nothing else than bayern munich and borussia dortmund

Is that normal in Germany then Tucker that you can buy away fans tickets on the home teams website? Seems strange. Anyway though, a ticket is still €26 whoever it's for. Teams in league 2 here pay more than that.
It costs me £15 to go and stand to watch my local conference team.

Oct 23, 2013 -- 1:39AM, judorick wrote:

which town is named after a sausage?

Frankfurt

TBF it seems a touch unusual esp. as Nürnberg aint that far away and should fill up the 2,500 that they would normally get.
Dunno. These are lean times for both clubs and both sets of fans are famously the tempramental glory hunter type.

Yeah but it aint €25 is it ?

You will pay €43.50 for a sh!t seat..

50€ for the "Hauptribune" and well worth the extra 6.50 IMO

since 1989 English ticket prices have increased 716 per cent (inflation 77 per cent).

The most expensive cup of tea is £2.50 at Old Trafford. Manchester City have dropped their price to £1.80 from £2.50

Germany - Bayern and Dortmund / Spain - Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico. Then you've got PSG, Juventus and the English clubs. The rest are pointless.

The cheapest adult season ticket in the Premier League is £299 at Manchester City. The most expensive is £1,955 at Arsenal

Frankfurt ffs how could I not get that??

derrrrrrrrrrr

Also Eintracht Braunschweiger judorick

and Werder Sausage

anyone on dep.pasto tonight? it looks like a decent bet.

You what, you what, you what, you what, you what?

City 3-2 Bayern Munich
Schalke 0-5 chelsea
Arsenal 2-0 Borussia Dortmund
Wolfsburg 0-2 Everton

In terms of entertainment, even the German Ladies Fem League puts on a better show than Sunderland v Chelsea.

^ Either backed Chelsea or did what most posters on here seem to do and blindly backed BTTS and Over 2.5, gl.

I watched the last thirty minutes of that match and it was entertaining, end to end. But then I was on Sunderland DND and not goals so maybe that's clouding my judgement, who knows.

No, entertaining yes

Schalke won 4-1  at home yesterday. Must have played a part time club.

That Chelsea match was a total stinker and so is the 1st half of the Citeh match

Nov 30, 2014 -- 12:27PM, madverassocks wrote:

No, entertaining yes

THIS