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12 Aug 13 22:13
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Anyone got a view on the new bet from Koral? I'm still working out how winnable it is but good to see something a bit different for start of season.

http://sports.coral.co.uk/football/football-pools

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By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 12 Aug 13 22:28
picked a coupon up today and will be having a quid each week, probably bettter odds than the lotto and a more satifactory way to become a millionareLaugh
By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 12 Aug 13 22:28
picked a coupon up today and will be having a quid each week, probably bettter odds than the lotto and a more satifactory way to become a millionareLaugh
By:
J2BLUE.
When: 12 Aug 13 22:41
The true odds must be about 2m/1?

Will still have a go though each week.
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 22:57
It will cost you £15 this week not £1
By:
the dza
When: 12 Aug 13 23:03
I plan to win it each week.
By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 12 Aug 13 23:07
It will cost you £15 this week not £1

how so?
By:
11kv
When: 12 Aug 13 23:07
ladbrokes been doing it for yrs.......................... no one ever wins
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 23:11

Aug 12, 2013 -- 11:07PM, HowieTheRookie. wrote:


It will cost you £15 this week not £1 how so?


You bet between £1 and £20 per selection: http://www.coral.co.uk/football-jackpot

By:
yuvutu
When: 12 Aug 13 23:27
^^^^^^^^^^^^not right.   You pick the results of 15 games and your minimum stake can be a pound.
By:
Durham Edition
When: 12 Aug 13 23:30
My understanding on first glance at the bet was that there was a guaranteed £1 million pool, which like with any pool bet could be split amongst multiple winners - which is fair enough.

However it looks like the £1 million is only available if there is a single winner. So if there is 10k bet in total and you are into the last leg, it looks like you win £1m if you cop the last result on your own, but £5k if someone else cops the full 15/15 too.

Not very impressed if I am reading this right -  means you never know where you stand and whether you are playing for £1 million is entirely dependent on no one else picking same results as you.

I will ask in my local Koral tomorrow.
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 23:31
What is the Football Jackpot?

Simply predict the outcome of 15 matches and this week you could turn £1 into £1,000,000.
Pick your winners by 3PM every Saturday either online, mobile app or at your local Coral shop.
How to play

Simply mark your outcome in each game by clicking Home Win, Draw or Away Win
Select your stake from £1 to £20 per line, multiplying by the number of lines gives you, your total stake
Then click Place Bet and you are in with your chance to win
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 23:31
What is the Football Jackpot?

Simply predict the outcome of 15 matches and this week you could turn £1 into £1,000,000.
Pick your winners by 3PM every Saturday either online, mobile app or at your local Coral shop.
How to play

Simply mark your outcome in each game by clicking Home Win, Draw or Away Win
Select your stake from £1 to £20 per line, multiplying by the number of lines gives you, your total stake
Then click Place Bet and you are in with your chance to win
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 12 Aug 13 23:32
14384907 possible combinations of results ? 3^15 ?
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 23:34
I guess I'm wrong, but it is a rip off
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 23:36
You're guaranteed to win if you put £14,348,907 on Laugh
By:
yuvutu
When: 12 Aug 13 23:38
^  yes 3x3x3.....(15times)
By:
yuvutu
When: 12 Aug 13 23:50
However it looks like the £1 million is only available if there is a single winner. So if there is 10k bet in total and you are into the last leg, it looks like you win £1m if you cop the last result on your own, but £5k if someone else cops the full 15/15 too. 

Correct. The million will be there till there is a single winner one week,  other than that multiple winners will get the jackpot dividened x their unit stake
By:
Durham Edition
When: 13 Aug 13 00:00
It must be 100/000-1 or more to get 15/15 results, yet you could get 15/15 and only win a few thousand on this bet. In fact you could win even less than that as it all depends on money bet into the pool with the guarantee not applicable if someone lands on same results as you.

I'll do the sums and post in the morning.
By:
themightymac
When: 13 Aug 13 00:30
15 matches, ha,ha,ha. Hard enough to get 1 right. Whoops
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 13 Aug 13 10:27
Basically says in their rules that the pool may be 500k and could have 10 winners. They take 30% off the top so you end up with 35k for 2,000,000/1 shot. Ridiculous and p1ss poor bet.

Better off doing the same bet away from the pool which will pay a hell of a lot more - simple. Are the people who run coral a bit simple......,
By:
666_v
When: 13 Aug 13 13:10
They imagine their punters are
By:
yuvutu
When: 13 Aug 13 14:40
Agree with you magic daps but if the jackpot pool rolls over a few weeks to millions then surely it would be better to do the jackpot coupon than a normal coupon (although the jackpot coupon specifies the 15 games you got to predict the result of)  plus I think corals max payout on a footy coupon.is 500k.  Oh but suppose you got to hope you are a sole winner
By:
racingunited111
When: 13 Aug 13 18:26
prefer colossusbets idea myself 10 million with consolations
By:
Durham Edition
When: 14 Aug 13 00:31
Articles in today's Racing Post on both the koral bet and colossusbets £10 million bet. Not had chance to consider in detail but will do so tomorrow.
By:
racingunited111
When: 14 Aug 13 13:10
Dont think corals bet will last as you only win a million if individual winner at least with colossus what they state is fact 10 million jackpot if you win you win and cash out facility brilliant its just coral seeing colossus come on the market with a unique bet and they are trying to compete with a bet thats just flawed.
By:
racingunited111
When: 14 Aug 13 13:12
Would anyone enter the scoop 6 knowing that if more than 1 winner the gtee pot does not come into play ?
By:
Durham Edition
When: 14 Aug 13 22:48
So you upshot of this is you might win £1m with the koral jackpot bet if you get 15/15 – but you might win SFA if anyone else also gets 15/15. The £1m "guarantee" is a sham.

Colossusbets harder to win but the guarantee is different league (£10m) and it is not withdrawn if more than one winner. Cash in looks v interesting too.
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Aug 13 00:31
If you want to win the million then better not pick the 15 shortest prices on the coupon, as thats what 85% of punters will do .
By:
racingunited111
When: 15 Aug 13 11:35
Spot on Tobermory you will need to do some outsiders with the coral bet to be an exclusive winner and yes the colossus will be extremely hard to win but i think they want this to create a say 50 million 60 million jackpot which will appeal to the public but there is a 2 million gt on 6 scores not to be sneezed at and other smaller pool bets and the cash out of the bet at stages is a great option for all.
By:
Durham Edition
When: 15 Aug 13 23:32
The nail in the coffin for the koral bet is that there is no transparency around what is bet into the pool. Given the £1m "guarantee" is a sham guarantee, people betting into the pool need to know what is actually on the table to be won. Is there 2k, 20k or 200k bet into this pool?

"Total pool stakes" is essential information for anyone betting into a pool. All tote bets provide this - as does the new Colossus bet. Koral on the other hand don't. It is a bet which really does fail on every count.
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