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r2r
09 Jul 13 11:39
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If you were a bookie, how would you price the remaining apprentice candidates to win?

I know it is all pre recorded so it would not be possible. But would be interesting to see if there is general agreement.
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Report WhiteHatJon July 9, 2013 12:23 PM BST
Not a clue, but my gut feel is as follows :

Luisa - 2.0
Neil - 4.0
Leah - 6.0
Francesca - 12.0
Jordan - 26.0

?
Report r2r July 9, 2013 2:48 PM BST
its a tough one, I personally pur Jordan as second favourite behind neil
Report DonNo1 July 9, 2013 2:52 PM BST
Something like

Neil 2.8
Luisa 3.2
Leah 5.5
Jordan 6
Fran 100
Report Cubanpete July 9, 2013 2:53 PM BST
Francesca 3/1
Jordan 4/1
Neil 4/1
Luisa 6/1
Leah 6/1
Report kingmax July 9, 2013 3:14 PM BST
more like...

Neil WHO CARES!!
Luisa WHO CARES!!
Leah WHO CARES!!
Jordan WHO CARES!!
Fran WHO CARS!!
Report thewrongtrousers July 9, 2013 4:06 PM BST
Jordan LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh not got a chance in hell, have you not seen the exchanges between him and Lord Sugar. That being said of all the business ideas that have been mentioned by the candidates so far this year his has a lot of potential and is probably the most realistic to invest £250K in to get a good return - its just is it really his idea.

On a slightly seperate note I wonder if the Radio Times will put the finalists on the front cover of the Radio Times before showing the penultimate episode - they somehow managed this a few years ago.
Report kellydamo July 10, 2013 1:00 AM BST
Leah 1.7
Luisa 2.2
Neil 4.2.
Jordan 20
Fran 100
Report kellydamo July 10, 2013 1:12 AM BST
Oh I forgot to say the odds are skewed anyway because Sugar gets to see their business proposals before they start, so he already has his mind made up on which business proposal is going to make the most money and which will be a viable business therefore it doesnt matter how they perform in the series because he can always find a way to keep in the ones with the right business idea
Report map July 10, 2013 1:33 AM BST
I'd have Luisa way shorter like 1/3
Report map July 10, 2013 1:33 AM BST
Luisa 1/3 Leah 5/2 Neil 8/1 Jordan 50s Fran 66s
Report bobtoe July 10, 2013 1:55 AM BST
I'd go

Neil 2.5
Luisa 2.7
Leah 5.5
Fran 5.5
Jordan 50

And a money back special if Jordan wins
Report Eeternaloptimist July 10, 2013 2:07 AM BST
It's become a glorified version of Dragons Den.
Report kellydamo July 10, 2013 2:32 AM BST

Jul 9, 2013 -- 7:33PM, map wrote:


I'd have Luisa way shorter like 1/3


I would be laying Luisa full bank if it were on here and not just in the betting terms

Report Rafael Nadal July 10, 2013 1:17 PM BST
Eeternaloptimist is right.  Before, you could pretty much see all the form, now it's all about the business plan (which you haven't seen, but surely Lord Sugar has).  A risky move pricing this up, but in any format Luisa has no chance.

Neil or Leah.
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 5:54 PM BST
    Name        BF Odds   
    Neil Clough        2.5   
    Francesca MacDuff-Varley        3   
    Leah Totton        6   
    Jordan Poulton        10   
    Luisa Zissman        51   
Report map July 10, 2013 5:58 PM BST
il take some of those 50s !!
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 5:59 PM BST
    Name        Formline   
    Neil Clough        Nice guy, bit over confident   
    Francesca MacDuff-Varley        Bottle blonde 1, likeable sort   
    Leah Totton        Bottle blonde 2, annoying Northern Irish accent   
    Jordan Poulton        Shorty, blew it with Sugar 2 weeks ago   
    Luisa Zissman        Dreadful winer, really annoying   
Report map July 10, 2013 5:59 PM BST
lol Luisa is awful and I dont like her..but i still think she'll win
Report map July 10, 2013 5:59 PM BST
and as far as annoying goes..her voice is the worst
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 9:45 PM BST
I think the two blondes will make the final & favour Leah's business plan. Neil's business plan is no good.
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 9:49 PM BST
oi oi
Report tenpins July 10, 2013 9:50 PM BST
Luisa and the ferry singer to be final two
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 9:58 PM BST
The outsider sneaks in the final Shocked

Leah Totton 1.4
Jordan Poulton 3.1
Report Stow_judge July 10, 2013 9:59 PM BST
oops, copied the wrong name

Leah Totton 1.4
Luisa Zissman 2.1
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner July 10, 2013 10:03 PM BST
Jordan got destroyed. How can someone with no business other than a "gentleman's agreement" get on the show, never mind make the final. Probably to make good tv, they must have known
Report map July 10, 2013 10:32 PM BST
ferry singer..whosat? lol
Report kellydamo July 11, 2013 12:47 AM BST

Jul 10, 2013 -- 3:58PM, Stow_judge wrote:


The outsider sneaks in the final


Leah Totton
1.4


Jordan Poulton
3.1


What do you mean the outsider gets to the final?  Outsider for everyone on this thread and I would have made a killing if the market was up.  As I said and made a clear favourite before tonights episode and nothing has changed

kellydamo • July 10, 2013 1:00 AM BST
Leah 1.7
Luisa 2.2
Neil 4.2.
Jordan 20
Fran 100

Report map July 11, 2013 1:18 AM BST
Leah 5/6 Luissa 5/6
Report kellydamo July 11, 2013 11:43 AM BST

Jul 10, 2013 -- 7:18PM, map wrote:


Leah 5/6 Luissa 5/6


No way

Report WhiteHatJon July 11, 2013 3:03 PM BST
Changed my mind after last night, can just see LS saying to Luisa 'I don't have to worry about your future, you will be alright'

Leah - 1.5
Luisa - 3
Report kellydamo July 12, 2013 12:42 AM BST
Think there is other elements you all failed to take into account....  research is key
Report map July 12, 2013 1:05 AM BST
yea i think WhiteHat is right my 5/6 too big i think Leah now Luisa's too much hard work
Report CLYDEBANK29 July 12, 2013 12:12 PM BST
They are both hard work! and he doesn't have to worry about Leah's future as she's a doctor.

Besides it's more like Dragon's Den at this stage.  Virtually all about the business plan and whether LS thinks he can make money from it, or at least not lose money from it.  With Leah it appears she is almost starting from scratch, whereas it appears Luisa is partially up and running.  If he doesn't like either much, he has to go with Luisa I think.
Report RMB © July 12, 2013 12:25 PM BST
Luisa 1/2 I'd say. Has business up and running and if she is making a £1.5m turnover online it's not hard to fathom how her new business with the doors LS can open up would easily make a return on his £0.25m investment. Furthermore I really can't see LS wanting to put his name into the cosmetic surgery market, all bet it natural implants/fillers etc. He knows consumer markets inside out and Luisa represents the safe and right bet, all be it a bit of a punt. Either way it's what he will want to put his name to moreover Leahs business imho.
Report RMB © July 12, 2013 12:25 PM BST
If it had been the old format of the Apprentice then you'd have to think it'd have been Neil vs Jordan in the final with Neil coming out on top.
Report donny osmond July 12, 2013 12:38 PM BST
sugar turned down a dodgy looking wine investment candidate in a final, and imagine he will be worried about a cosmetic clinic for similar reasons

luisa's plan is flawed, rubbish even, but she has identified a gap in the market, although lord s advertising the gap on bbc is hardly shrewd before he has taken advantage of it ....
Report kellydamo July 12, 2013 3:53 PM BST
You are all saying Luisa will be chosen because she already has a business and he wont touch cosmetics because of it is dodgy or the moral part.  He is a business man and there is more of a markup in cosmetics than her in her bakery ingredients delivery business. 

He will go where the money is and his only concern about Leah was the moral element and he asked her straight would you refuse people, she said yes.  She is a doctor and will not recommend people for the money her licence is more important. Now talking of morals and not wanting to be assocaited with tarnished brands and morals.....  have a look at these......  and this is why Leah has been favourit since the final 5 as I pointed out

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4922473/the-apprentice-luisa-zissman-raunchy-facebook-pictures.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2352021/Apprentice-star-Luisa-Zissmans-ex-boyfriend-ran-firm-high-class-prostitutes--wanted-join-in.html
Report map July 12, 2013 5:38 PM BST
dodgy or moral dont come into it much with shrewd businessmen they have very few moals imo
Report map July 12, 2013 5:40 PM BST
yea i agree kelly - Luisa's a horrible sleazy chav - single mum / involved with prostitutes/pimps/sex parties - hard work..very stubborn and arrogant 0 shes so arrogant youd think she wasrunning a FTSE100 company -- she's running 3 businesses which may aswell be 1..cake shop..baking accessories shop and cupcakes or something..3 businesses with small turnover and profit..its like saying sainsburys alcohol..Sainsburys electronics..sainsbuys food as 3 diff businesses...hers are small businesses that she oversells
Report map July 12, 2013 5:40 PM BST
Leah = educated and probably LESS hard work than Luisa
Report map July 12, 2013 5:43 PM BST
Leah has class..Luisa = desperate for attention http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2361771/The-Apprentice-finalist...
Report map July 12, 2013 5:44 PM BST
leah covers up ..luisa of course has to bare all to get attention and photos http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2361771/The-Apprentice -finalists-Luisa-Zissman-Leah-Totton-soak-sun-enjoy-beach-holiday-together.h...
Report map July 12, 2013 5:44 PM BST
just add .html forum acting up
Report kellydamo July 18, 2013 6:17 PM BST
Gutted there werent a market
Report r2r July 18, 2013 7:01 PM BST

Jul 12, 2013 -- 6:25AM, RMB © wrote:


If it had been the old format of the Apprentice then you'd have to think it'd have been Neil vs Jordan in the final with Neil coming out on top.


I think your completely right, the new investment format is broken, as how did they did in the previous 10 weeks is almost irrelevant as long as they have a good business plan. Dont get me wrong i like leah, but neil was the best overall candidate.

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