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ClayDavis
31 May 13 22:41
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Roll up, roll up for the best league in the world and the "fixed game". The whole of the Argentina has been talking about this game for weeks. The betting community has been awash with rumours that this game is fixed. Bookies, originally, were alseep to the rumours and then took the game off the boards. Some still are not offering prices.
For what it's worth I don't believe this is a fixed game. Ok one look at the prices tells you something fishy is going on but I really don't buy it.
Fixed game or not Quilmes are more than capable of beating Racing. And if they do then people will say "I told u it was fixed". As the Quilmes coached said yesterday: "It's as if people only think we can only beat Racing if they let us".
Let's get to the rumours. Independiente, Racing's arch rival, are sitting in the 3rd relegation spot. Tonight's rival Quilmes are sitting 5th from bottom. A win for Quilmes will edge them closer to safety and Independiente closer to the trap door. They say some of Racing's "Barra Bravas" have been threatening Racing's players that they must lose this game.
There is one massive flaw in the "fixed game" theory and that is Argentinos Jrs. They are dropping like a stone and on current form they will be relegated instead of Independiente. So even if Racing throw this game, it doesn't make Independiente's situation any worse.
Quilmes are 1.57 to win this game and that is just insanity. IN a "normal" game I would have priced them up at 3 to win this game.
Quilmes are missing their best player Miguel Caneo. Quilmes have only won 2 of their last 7 home games. Quilmes have been in poor form recently.
Racing are a good side but a very inconsistent side. Their record of 5 wins, 5 draws and 5 defeats speaks volumes for them. But my god there is no way on god's green earth should they be 8 to win at Quilmes.
Their best player last season Ricardo Centurion is due to start tonight after coming back from injury.
I might end up with egg on my face but at 1.57 I'm prepared for it. You just have to lay Quilmes for a lot of money at that price. Also must back Racing at 8. Massive value.
In my opinion this is not a fixed game.
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Report map May 31, 2013 11:30 PM BST
smb
Report map May 31, 2013 11:30 PM BST
good tennis day?
Report smb360 May 31, 2013 11:31 PM BST
No, not really
Report map May 31, 2013 11:31 PM BST
:(
Report map May 31, 2013 11:31 PM BST
never normally see you in this neck of the woodsCool
Report smb360 May 31, 2013 11:31 PM BST
Only a lost a tiny bit net but spent a long time to achieve nothing
Report map May 31, 2013 11:31 PM BST
yea i hate it when that happens
Report smb360 May 31, 2013 11:32 PM BST
You'd rather lose some so it feels like you at least did something Laugh
Report Darlo Bantam May 31, 2013 11:34 PM BST
French Open has to be the most frustrating tournament of the year.
Report swebih May 31, 2013 11:35 PM BST
Why bantam?
Report Darlo Bantam May 31, 2013 11:36 PM BST
For my strategy the lack of and the standard of the streams. I'm sure Wimbledon will probably be similar. And also - mind this is probably a knock-on effect - the shocking liquidity in so many markets.
Report Biscuit1979 May 31, 2013 11:36 PM BST
Clay got so excited about this game he got the kick off time wrong
Report Darlo Bantam May 31, 2013 11:36 PM BST
It's been put back 45 minutes to make the fix look more realistic. Wink
Report swebih May 31, 2013 11:38 PM BST
poor liquidity since 2 year ago
Report swebih May 31, 2013 11:39 PM BST
i mean last 2 year
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 12:08 AM BST
Betfair video has this down for 1215 start too. I'm guessing that's the source of the wrong info.
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 12:28 AM BST
is it a 1am kick off?
Report map June 1, 2013 12:28 AM BST
quilmes still shortening!!
Report map June 1, 2013 12:28 AM BST
yea
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 12:34 AM BST
keep laying them
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 12:35 AM BST
I don't know who to believe
Report map June 1, 2013 12:35 AM BST
same
Report ZCSCS June 1, 2013 12:36 AM BST
yes 1am Clay
Report map June 1, 2013 12:36 AM BST
a lot of money on them
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 12:36 AM BST
The price has hit that big 1.57 blocker.
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 12:37 AM BST
Looks a lot of money traded pre-match compared to most Argie matches.
Report map June 1, 2013 12:38 AM BST
is it a fix or wtf
Report southerner101 June 1, 2013 12:39 AM BST
****g laying them!!!!!!!!!!!! bags of money on them. They will win ffs
Report ZCSCS June 1, 2013 12:42 AM BST
Clay says otherwise

what Clay says goes OK?

Grin

no bet for me but cant wait to see how this monster gamble goesExcited
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 12:44 AM BST
That's my take too. A watching brief and see if any opportunities arise inrunning.
Report swebih June 1, 2013 12:44 AM BST
only fixed so far

"best league in the world"

Grin
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 12:46 AM BST
Quilmes' price will drift like mad in running once it appears Racing are trying
Report map June 1, 2013 12:47 AM BST
we will see
Report bigsal999 June 1, 2013 12:50 AM BST
Quilmes  value here for a lay.just laid a cheeky ton.
Report Senyatta June 1, 2013 12:51 AM BST
im gonna wait and see if can get better price IR but the other league games only have a few hundred matched.this one has nearly 400k and all going on home side.looks simple.home win
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 12:55 AM BST
Yeah, but is it sheep money?
Report Senyatta June 1, 2013 12:58 AM BST
serious money tho.comparing it to the other games its phenomenal.would love to lump them but i think ill just enjoy watching this one see how it pans out
Report map June 1, 2013 1:00 AM BST
drifting back tiny
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:03 AM BST
After less than two minutes, I think I agree with Clay that this price will drift fairly quickly given how Racing play.
Report ZCSCS June 1, 2013 1:04 AM BST
thats all it is Darlo the fix was reported on a national newspapr ffs :)

all these mugs are lumping on thinking its a sure fire winner LOL
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:06 AM BST
I also agree with that. It might come off, it might be a genuine win for Quilmes, but I think that money is just getting stuck into what it thinks is free money at odds it really shouldn't be doing.
Report Senyatta June 1, 2013 1:08 AM BST
the amounts going on tho.surely mugs wouldnt have those stakes.will be interesting to see how this one goes.still think the home side will win this one.probably be a late winner so if its level with 5mins left ill throw something on a goal to be scored.
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:09 AM BST
Yeah, I think the fix will come off but both teams - particularly Racing - play it like a genuine match.
Report bobtoe June 1, 2013 1:09 AM BST
If there is a fixed it'll likely to occur in the 2nd half
Report southerner101 June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
if i was a team and weeks before a game it got out it was going to be a fix....

I would call off the fix.


SIMPLE
Report map June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
oh
Report map June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
1-0
Report play45 June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
1-0
Report map June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
lol
Report The Mascara June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
1111111111111
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:10 AM BST
Bollox. There's me hoping for some value late on if there was a fix.
Report southerner101 June 1, 2013 1:11 AM BST
there ya go
Report teo813 June 1, 2013 1:11 AM BST
great defending
Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:13 AM BST
Can anyone see Racing score here
Report smb360 June 1, 2013 1:15 AM BST
Considering we've just watched two centre backs completely ignore the single Quilmes striker I have already redded out from my lay with my tail between my legs.
Report map June 1, 2013 1:16 AM BST
yea i layed too and redded out mate
Report Stringer June 1, 2013 1:17 AM BST
no fix you mugs

just racing aren't bothered to win

big difference
Report ZCSCS June 1, 2013 1:18 AM BST

Jun 1, 2013 -- 1:17AM, Stringer wrote:


no fix you mugsjust racing aren't bothered to winbig difference


ok, i will sleep better tonight

Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:20 AM BST
Lets see how hard Racing try here
Report kanu200000 June 1, 2013 1:21 AM BST
2-1 to Quilmes for me 93min pen Laugh
Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:22 AM BST
1-1 now would be great
Report teo813 June 1, 2013 1:22 AM BST
1-0 ft for me, just laid over 1.5 and Im going to bed.
Report map June 1, 2013 1:23 AM BST
night teo mate
Report kanu200000 June 1, 2013 1:30 AM BST
what if Racing Club get 93min pen?
Report map June 1, 2013 1:31 AM BST
then 1-1
Report map June 1, 2013 1:31 AM BST
heh
Report Petrus Romanus June 1, 2013 1:43 AM BST
Fix or no fix this is a sh1t game of football.
Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:44 AM BST
I regret getting involved now
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:44 AM BST
Been a normal Argie game till I turned it off. Easy to make any possible fix stick when they always play like this.
Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:46 AM BST
Cant believe Messi comes from Argentina
Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:47 AM BST
There were more Argentineans in the Champions League than any other country other than Brazil last year. All their talent is basically asset-stripped from the league.
Report Proted June 1, 2013 1:50 AM BST
That explains it, cant think of a worse league
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 1:52 AM BST
Talk nonsense, The Argie league is excellent
Report athomk June 1, 2013 1:55 AM BST

Jun 1, 2013 -- 1:47AM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


There were more Argentineans in the Champions League than any other country other than Brazil last year. All their talent is basically asset-stripped from the league.


Brazil: 85 Spain and France:73 Germany: 48 Portugal: 45 England:44 Italy:39 Russia: 35 Argentina (9º): 33

Report Darlo Bantam June 1, 2013 1:57 AM BST
Is that right? There was some right lying so-and-so on Five Live earlier this week then.
Report Proted June 1, 2013 2:01 AM BST
How do you see the 2nd half Clay? a straight win for Quilmas or a shock??
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:13 AM BST
racing doesn't seem to bothered with the game
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 2:17 AM BST
I don't get people saying Argentina is the best league in the world. It's so far from it! Constant dross
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:18 AM BST
because of the fans maybe, as long as they are not rioting and fighting they are great fans
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 2:19 AM BST
haha. Really hoping for a squirrel to run on the field of play right now.
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 2:21 AM BST
This has been shameful so far from Racing
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:23 AM BST
I have an argie co-worker that agrees their football is dreadfull, its mostly passing the ball around until it gets to the keeper. The one guy that eventually deciddes to try and actually play is almost immediately shipped to europe.
Report Proted June 1, 2013 2:24 AM BST
So close Cry
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:25 AM BST
one chance created by a guy that is about to be shipped :) Ricky Centurion, mark his name you'll see it in europe next season.
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 2:26 AM BST
that was actually a fine double save
Report Proted June 1, 2013 2:27 AM BST
Im sensing a late equaliser
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 2:31 AM BST
really?
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 2:31 AM BST
Here comes the "Cramp"
Report Proted June 1, 2013 2:31 AM BST
hoping or sensing or both lol
Report Senyatta June 1, 2013 2:39 AM BST
wud say plenty of accounts going to be limited tonightWhoopsno inplay betting with pp or 365.they cover nearly every game out there so id say they will run wild tonight on restrictions!
Report Petrus Romanus June 1, 2013 2:49 AM BST
Complete sh1t...feel sorry for the fans having to put up with this tripe.
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:50 AM BST
I watched 30 minutes of this I don't think I even saw a corner..
Report Proted June 1, 2013 2:51 AM BST
worst **** evet
Report kanu200000 June 1, 2013 2:51 AM BST
what are the racing fans sing aboutLaughLaugh
Report Nasherthedude June 1, 2013 2:52 AM BST
Now to make yourselves feel better, next time a Chilean premier game is on. Watch it! Fast, frantic and no one can defend! :D
Report hernani June 1, 2013 2:53 AM BST
I think the all fix thing was around throwing their biggest rival to a lower division. So that's why racing fans are singing.
Report Footiefan111 June 1, 2013 2:54 AM BST
who offer live odds for this
Report lukekelly88 June 1, 2013 3:22 AM BST
no1 i dont think,suits themselves to offer whatever they want no matter if theres fixes r not
Report ClayDavis June 1, 2013 12:04 PM BST
Racing's performance was rancid last night. They should be ashamed of themsleves
Report ClayDavis June 4, 2013 10:12 AM BST
It's been confirmed today that Racing's coach Luis Zubeldia will leave after the season is over. The bad results are the main reason but apparently he's not happy with last Friday's result and performance.
Friday's game really has to be investigated and I'm surprised that bookies paid out on this way.
Shocking
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