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surley has to be a lay at that price, . cant see united appointing a manager who has never won a trophy
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Much of the fall in the Man U shares will be priced in now. Unless there's news, they won't drop much more now.
Market showing signs of being spooked by the non-announcement. Still think Moyes is likeliest, but not at these prices.
Not sure that worked out too badly for them Texas. In return for pushing everybody else into war and then losing, they got America spending its immense resources rebuilding their country. It was the likes of Britain who got bankrupted by WWII, not Germany!!
I'm not sure Moyes would have such a positive long-term effect on Manu U, but who knows..
I'm not sure Moyes would have such a positive long-term effect on Manu U, but who knows..
May 8, 2013 -- 8:45AM, lauriehulse wrote:
May 8, 2013 -- 2:44PM, henok wrote:May 8, 2013 -- 2:44PM, Fangsy wrote:Almost impossible to make an announcement now until Wall St closeswhy?I believe its to do with rules of the Seurities and Exchange commission on the release of financially sensitive information of which fergies replacement arguably is. All to do with fairness and the public availability of information to the whole market at the same time
i think the little movement to 1.22 is due to the same reasoning
May 8, 2013 -- 8:56AM, TexassportsagentBuzz wrote:
Forget David Moyes lads honestly I would love it but it won't happen. It would be the worst appointment since the Kaiser said "hey this Hitler fella looks like he would make a great chancellor"
Simon Schama?
...although there were several million people killed and a third of the country got taken over by the russians.
Can I be forgiven for pointing out that the President appointed Hitler, not the Kaiser (who had abdicated in 1918)? No, thought not.
Quite a few of us thought the announcement would be done and dusted by now, so it's inevitable that the price drifts. However, many sources (Telegraph, TalkSport) are still talking about it as being signed and sealed, so I suspect it will happen. Still hoping this means there's some last-minute haggling with Real Madrid though...
Hardly on to get excited about is it, David Moyes ffs. I am hoping Mourinho comes out after the match tonight and resigns. Put a spanner in the works.
Yeah, but we all know what Stalin said about statistics, Viva. Germany may well employ the same logic if it's in the country's long-term interests. As a method of destroying its big rivals in Europe and making Germany the top dog, the WWII strategy paid off handsomely!!
hard to believe the glazers want moyes fergie must have a lot of control over the situation still
bit more than that. but the market going overbroke will have helped.
JM in from 11's to 7.8 in last 5 mins......
The money for Jose is pennies. Look at the volumes for him compared to Moyes.
The money for Jose is pennies. Look at the volumes for him compared to Moyes.
Why Love the Green? The Glazers love penny-pinchers. They're not really interested in winning things and making Man U a world force - Fergie's success has been a welcome bonus to them, but it hasn't come from the Glazers putting huge amounts of money behind the club. At this point, the prospect of taking on somebody who won't want to spend big, and who can guide a decent squad to a Top3/4 finish every year, will appeal to the Glazers. They can gradually (very gradually) pay off the debt, and in the meantime, they can carry on paying themselves significant personal cheques every year. With the amount of new money coming into English football over the next season or two, a safe choice like Moyes will allow them to stay afloat without causing them too many headaches.
http://m.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130508/david-mo...
If this was just today you could argue it was people following the money for Moyes. But there were large sums backing him 2-3 days ago, that's not just people taking a gamble, they must've known something as it wasn't even public knowledge then that Fergie was going.
I completely agree with biscuit. I've had a bet on this £100 lay on Jose at 5.3 just purely following the money. 10k wanting to back moyes at 1.4 is not mug money imo
laying the second favourite in manager markets can blow up in your face, though.
David Moyes is the new manager of Manchester United.
The Everton boss has agreed to move to Old Trafford and will join the club at the end of the season.
Moyes' future has been in doubt for several months, after his refusal to sign a new deal on Merseyside and, following Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement, the Red Devils have acted quickly to land the former Preston chief.
The Scot has been at Goodison Park for 11 years but has only an FA Cup runners-up medal, from 2009, to his name and has no experience in the Champions League proper.
Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho had been stongly linked to the post but it appears the board at Old Trafford have decided the 50-year-old former Celtic defender is the right man to lead the club forward.
The Everton boss has agreed to move to Old Trafford and will join the club at the end of the season.
Moyes' future has been in doubt for several months, after his refusal to sign a new deal on Merseyside and, following Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement, the Red Devils have acted quickly to land the former Preston chief.
The Scot has been at Goodison Park for 11 years but has only an FA Cup runners-up medal, from 2009, to his name and has no experience in the Champions League proper.
Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho had been stongly linked to the post but it appears the board at Old Trafford have decided the 50-year-old former Celtic defender is the right man to lead the club forward.
true viva but i think jose is going chelsea not to mention the strong possibility of moyes being appointed. i thought it was a decent lay price earlier today
well, you can trade out at twice the price now, so it's hard to argue different.
i think i'm tossing value away at 12 though viva. going to let it run
Haha Just realised i had £2 on Moyes @15 in 2005. Its right at the bottom of my current bets list.
If it wins it'll just about cover 8 years inflation i guess.
If it wins it'll just about cover 8 years inflation i guess.
- not a done deal?
Obviously not. Although if it isn't, it seems very strange that Moyes is poncing around on the road to Chelsea rather than in a room thrashing out the final deal. Until the ink's on the contract, there's always room for somebody else to crash the party - as in United's signing of Roy Keane!
If the deal's done, they should just announce it..
If the deal's done, they should just announce it..
1 - backers trading out
2 - a day for things to go wrong
3 - tick traders setting a floor
anyone with big enough b0llocks can get what probably ought to be a 1.06/7 shot at 1.19.
2 - a day for things to go wrong
3 - tick traders setting a floor
anyone with big enough b0llocks can get what probably ought to be a 1.06/7 shot at 1.19.
Sky Sources: David Moyes is meeting Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright in London
If he's taking over at United then he's speaking to the wrong Chairman surely?
Moyes, I don't get it. He's never had to deal with the pressure of having to win trophies. No way for me.
lol moyes is going to chelsea game tonight kenwright seldomly works in london which is actually a big place 
I've liked this market very much. Plenty of liquidity and price seems to be moving up and down within a range on Moyes.
yes - preferred it when it was going overbroke every couple of minutes though
why is the woeful Rory Jiwani (B365 ?) on the radio even now saying 'we go 1/20 Moyes to be next United manager' - its not actually a fact yet/ i got the impression it was. A fact.
obv not tho' - I'll have £20k on that please Rory -
Substantial market move, but still plenty of opposition (or those greening up, etc.). A done deal would be 1.03 in my experience.
I think a Moyles resignation announcement must be imminent to move it like this
probably it would rise up once more i would love to ride this "wave" once more 
WHERE HAS ALL THE MONEY EVERTON HAVE GOT FROM BEING IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE GONE...
1.11 is very short, very surprising choice if true, my m8 had a meeting with the manager oif fleetwood who said its moyes
how the cod he knows beats me
how the cod he knows beats me
thanks mate how is it going with you? dont read the your thread regularly
Thinking of going in at 1.08, reports that the deal is done but I dont want to end up busted.
It's going good henok using a nice mix of pre off bets on match odds, under/ over 2.5 and to score markets plus in play on the televised games. £100 up on this market unless Jose gets the job
comicbookguy 08 May 13 22:44
Thinking of going in at 1.08, reports that the deal is done but I dont want to end up busted.
Seeing as over 600k has gone on him at 1.08 and lower overnight, i'd say that unless Moyes dies this week, then he's going to be the manager.
Thinking of going in at 1.08, reports that the deal is done but I dont want to end up busted.
Seeing as over 600k has gone on him at 1.08 and lower overnight, i'd say that unless Moyes dies this week, then he's going to be the manager.
These markets can develop their own momentum, like stock market bubbles, and such hard evidence as there is points against Moyes (esp. the statement about European experience). I'm sure there are worse 1.02 lays around.
there are only two men with the european experience and know how that united need. and moyes isnt one of them.
ok just for fun i have layed moyes at 1.03 for 200 stake, 6 pounds return... hoping that the results are not announced today, the more delay is there, the more markets will panic
! when is the announcement? i want
As yesterday, it will be before 2.30pm or not until Wall St has shut. When will nerves really crack?!
Surely any announcement will come before the weekend so he can say his thank you's and goodbyes at their home game this weekend?
I cant see it being him, to be honest. Share price will go diddly squat and thats not what the owners need. They need CONFIDENCE in their brand. It will disappear. IMO of course.......
United NEED to have the best. Moyes is probably not in the top 40 of world football club managers?
Sky sources: Manchester United mistakenly confirm on club's Facebook account that David Moyes is confirmed as new manager
Not over until Man U confirm that he's the new manager. Hell, even I could say that I wish to join Manchester United!
Free money there if you want it, yes 1.01 but still free.
BREAKING NEWS
A message on the Everton website says David Moyes has a "desire" to join Manchester United.
A message on the Everton website says David Moyes has a "desire" to join Manchester United.
with all the evidence it is Moyes, those laying now must be under the impression that there is a 100 to 1 chance of Moyes dying on the way to the ground?
it is a done deal guys. why isnt there any next everton manager market?
May 9, 2013 -- 8:47AM, zorba2 wrote:
with all the evidence it is Moyes, those laying now must be under the impression that there is a 100 to 1 chance of Moyes dying on the way to the ground?
i think most of that money is people freeing up money from the market as we dont know when the market will close.
that is when the news will be made official. if you have a big bank just lump all your money
The news has got to be confirmed by Old Trafford very soon. So those laying off just to get out early are really costing themselves money. I suppose if you've got something else to shovel it into, it makes sense, but otherwise
Just seen a new filing on the NYSE from United, but its Interim Financial Report
very surprised but the markets got this one right, fortunatley did not go too big on it
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