1 to 25 for QPR to go down

Do you mean lesser or greater?

Only problem is, even winning all of the games doesn't make them safe, and that's an IF

you know what I mean

Can't see much more than a flicker in the price - which will prob be after they beat stoke

Just back them to win that instead.

36 points going into the last day of the season will do for QPR fans

If you think they'll do that, place an acca to win each game and roll the profit over - bigger price?

I have something similar in mind stu

I'm just backing them to do stoke - 2.28 decent price IMO

2.28 a decent price? they have won 4 of 33 games this season with a goal differance of -25, if u think thats a good price u crack on.

You are trying to decide the best way to p1ss your money away. Based on what you're saying I'd be surprised if you actually had any.

At the moment im backing:
Stoke to be relegated
QPR to beat stoke
Remy to score

Stoke are truly dire at the moment. I am praying to all interested gods that they go down. On the face of it QPRs form is pretty awful but they have played fairly well under 'Arry. Their home form isnt too shabby W1 D3 L2. And they are playing the worst team in the league. Easy QPR win for me.

As prices are arrived at by the collective weight of opinion, it is possible for the price to be plain wrong sometimes. QPR's price to get relegated is an example of such a price.

Absolutely right. They should actually be about 1/80!!

One of those home games you refer to is against Arsenal. Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. Everyone can see those remaining fixtures and they need to win the lot to have even a chance of getting out of it.

In addition to that Villa play Norwich and Sunderland during that run of 4 games and Sunderland also play Stoke. That will mean the teams they could possibly catch will decrease as well because at least one of them will pick up points from those games.

very pithy but not actually based on much

there are situations where QPR could escape on 36 or 37 points

C1rclemaster
2.28 a decent price? they have won 4 of 33 games this season with a goal differance of -25

How many of those games were against an away side with Stoke's away record? None. Last chance saloon for QPR too.
I'll take my chances with that price thanks.

I think QPR would be a decent bet against a Stoke side short on confidence.

there are situations where QPR could escape on 36 or 37 points

Of course there are but firstly is it likely they'll reach that total anyway with the answer being no and secondly is it likely that would be enough even if they do reach it and again the answer is no.

this is all turning into a bit of a waste of breath but

it's only in the light of the odds on offer that this comes into consideration

The only thing I'm taking into consideration is that you said the current price is plain wrong when it really isn't whichever way you look at it.

QPR will get relegated and the 1/33 on offer is a more worthwhile option than keeping your money on deposit with a bank for the next couple of weeks.

They simply have not won the matches they needed to win in recent weeks against the likes of Villa, Fulham and Wigan. It's too late now, and they know it. Asking the team to win 4 or 5 games now is too much of an ask given they have only won 4 matches all season.

as someone said they would need to win all 5 games to have even a squeak, i imagine the accumulative odds would be at least 100/1?

Joci Club....
"I think QPR would be a decent bet against a Stoke side short on confidence. "
And ability may I add.

when QPR went 1 down at goodison last week the stuffing was knocked out of them. Having said that, prior to the 1st goal they were pretty sh!te anyway
At one stage it did look as if was a case of how many

4% on your money, probably settled in a couple of weeks. no chance they stay up from where they are. wouldn't touch this lay with a bargepole.

Apr 18, 2013 -- 9:21PM, ShannonSpray wrote:

QPR will get relegated and the 1/33 on offer is a more worthwhile option than keeping your money on deposit with a bank for the next couple of weeks.They simply have not won the matches they needed to win in recent weeks against the likes of Villa, Fulham and Wigan. It's too late now, and they know it. Asking the team to win 4 or 5 games now is too much of an ask given they have only won 4 matches all season.

I'm glad nobody told us that in 2000.

brngtwt 18 Apr 13 22:41 
Joci Club....
"I think QPR would be a decent bet against a Stoke side short on confidence. "
And ability may I add.

Not short enough to have remained in the Premier League for 5 seasons and reached an FA Cup Final.

JOCI - you're starting to sound a bit mad, suggesting the bet then arguing against it.

JOCI - you're starting to sound a bit mad, suggesting the bet then arguing against it.

You have trouble with logic stu if you're saying that.

What I've said is that Stoke are short on confidence at the moment, and on that basis QPR are a decent bet at the price.

Then, in reponse to boring tw@t, countered his assertion that Stoke are short on quality by remarking that we have enough quality to have remained in the Prem (mainly mid-table) and reached an FA Cup Final during that time, whereas other side shave capitulated.

Where in the second statment did I argue against the bet on QPR? I don't think I did.

Not every thread is your 'thick stoke haters' thread joci - stop being paranoid!

His comment about quality in the current stoke side was perfectly valid.

Your point was wrong. Now trying and deflect attention away from it I see.

No it wasn't - you suggested a good bet, then trying to argue they're not short on quality is going against the bet, simples.

No point me taking it further as you don't seem capable of basic understanding, and are just making yourself look silly, so we'll leave it there.

So I see you now don't dispute that their 'quality' relates to the bet, as I point out?

One last throw of the dice..........

Chelsea are a quality team. If they were going through a very bad run and displaying little confidence, and playing away from home against a team below them in the league, then there may well be a point when the home team become a value bet against Chelsea. That does not alter the fact that Chelsea are a quality team.

Ok, but I don't think you can support the view that this current stoke side are a quality side. Previous sides, perhaps, but not this one.

I would rather say that it's the system / tactics that the manager forces the team to play under, rather than the quality of the players we have in the squad. We have a strong backbone of players, such as Begovic, Shawcross, Huth, N'Zonzi, Crouch and one or two others and most of the team comprises players who are International players (either current or former). So I disagree that we don't have a quality team. Quality is relative of course, and whilst the team lacks quality compared with Man Utd, we've proven to have more quality that the teams who have been relegated over the last 4 or 5 seasons. Earlier in the season, high on confidence we put a great run together and were very hard to beat. Since the turn of the year, we've been dreadful. The players haven't become bad players all of a sudden.

Seems odd that Crouch is out of the picture - was his form that bad?

We could have Falcao up front, but if he doesn't get the ball, he'll come across like Francis Jeffers.

Wide play the bigger problem then?

Well this plan didn't last long then...

strange .... QPR should have won today

Just waiting for Mark Hughes to come out and say he would have kept them up

not 'Arrys fault

1/1000 now. thx

aaronh 20 Apr 13 18:37 
not 'Arrys fault

Agree, writing was on the wall before he stepped in. However, their terrible transfer dealings (buying a load of overpriced / overpaid mercenaries in the main) is what has taken them down. Who carries the can for that?

On paper, they have some pretty good players, but just haven't played like a team for most of the season.