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judorick
14 Apr 13 14:38
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Villa are 4 to back to go down

Wigan are 2.64

Wigan are 3 points behind, have 2 games in hand, a better goal difference and they play Villa at home on the final day

ok, so they have the FA Cup Final but surely staying in the Prem is more important

surely Wigan and Villa should be much closer in the betting? 9/4 each?

makes Villa look value, they might need to beat Wigan away to stay up

what say you?
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Report MadVlad April 14, 2013 2:40 PM BST
fair assessment imo judorick.
Report stu April 14, 2013 2:42 PM BST
Partly agree, although Villa's league form has hugely improved
Report stu April 14, 2013 2:43 PM BST
Stoke down anyway IMO
Report Craig The Speculator April 14, 2013 2:43 PM BST
till they play Villa they don't seem to have a game you would have them favourite too win

very hard draw i think - maybe they would take an FA Cup win over staying up and that continued tedium (the tedium being being in a relegation battle each year)
Report judorick April 14, 2013 2:47 PM BST
yes but they only have to match what Villa do to end up with 2 games plus home to villa to make up 3 points

no way they should be less than half the price
Report Craig The Speculator April 14, 2013 2:51 PM BST
and whilst my comment might seem strange consider this

it's 2028

The History Of Wigan reads

of their moment of glory in 2013 this team from a Rugby League town winning the FA Cup

no one will remember if in 2014 they were in the premier league or the championship

(so long as they do get back up again)
Report ocukstinky April 14, 2013 2:52 PM BST
Villa games:

Man Utd (A) 0-3
Sunderland (H) 2-1
Norwich (A) 1-1
Chelsea (H) 1-2
Wigan (A) 2-1

Total: 41

Wigan:

Man City (A) 0-3
West Ham (A) 0-0
Spurs (H) 1-3
West Brom (A) 1-1
Swansea (H) 2-1
Arsenal (A) 0-2
Villa (H) 1-2

Total: 36

IMO
Report stu April 14, 2013 2:55 PM BST
That last game prediction rather makes the difference, lol
Report judorick April 14, 2013 2:57 PM BST
so villa get 7 points from 5 games and wigan 5 points from 7?

foysc
Report mrfishfingers April 14, 2013 3:07 PM BST
Just lump on Stoke.
Some clown on here baited me to get on and I did @28/1.
Sometimes it pays to listen to the mugs.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson April 14, 2013 3:13 PM BST
wigan have to to hope villa slip up and they can stay within 3 pts of them before the last game

or stoke dont get another point
Report ocukstinky April 14, 2013 3:35 PM BST

Apr 14, 2013 -- 2:57PM, judorick wrote:


so villa get 7 points from 5 games and wigan 5 points from 7?foysc


People in having a different opinion shocker. City, Spurs and Arsenal are all still fighting for something so they won't beat them. Away to West Ham is about the most drab, dull game you could cough up and they'll be happy with a point away, same with West Brom who won't really be trying as they've got nothing left to bother with. Swansea have been shat since the cup final and Villa have taken 10 points from the last 15 and led in every game, look a much improved side up for the fight. It's wigan's time to go.

Report ocukstinky April 14, 2013 3:37 PM BST
Can't see Stoke going tbh Nilsson - on a shocking run but have QPR (a), Norwich (h), Sunderland (a), Spurs (h) and Saints (a) - should beat a woeful QPR and that'll be them as good as safe.
Report stu April 14, 2013 4:35 PM BST
woeful qpr at loftus road, with last chance desperation - very tough game.
Report icantbelieveyousaidthat April 14, 2013 8:26 PM BST
All these relegation threads and no one seems to mention Norwich. I think they can get the points they need to survive but relegation price over the past few weeks has, in my opinion, built in a win this Saturday against Reading. If they don't win that, what price then?
Other games remaining are Stoke, ASTON VILLA, WEST BROM and Man City.
Report Coachbuster April 15, 2013 12:14 AM BST
norwich p[riced is based on them to beat reading ,if they don't i'd expect it to be around 2.5 to 3 ... shorter than Vanillas price -or it certainly will be
Report mrfishfingers April 15, 2013 12:52 AM BST
All the prices seem to be based on current points. Doesn't take form into account which is why Stoke was, is, and will continue to be the value pick.
Report Craig The Speculator April 15, 2013 12:15 PM BST
surprised Stoke don't sack their manager - like Sunderland and unlike QPR and Reading it's not too late to save their season
Report stu April 15, 2013 4:24 PM BST
It's their god Pullis though isn't it?
Report stu April 22, 2013 11:48 AM BST
Price updates currently to back:

Wigan: 1.73
Villa: 3.4

What price if Villa get humped tonight at old trafford?
Report stu April 22, 2013 11:49 AM BST
Last game is Wigan v Villa, with the current gap between them could that still be crucial.
Report Coachbuster April 22, 2013 12:59 PM BST
odds are normally based on current points mrfish at the lower end primarily becasue its harder for bottom sides to put points on the board - better to have them

opposite at the top - better to have the games in hand
Report Coachbuster April 22, 2013 1:00 PM BST
yes,wigan v villa  will be crucial - my theory is that wigan will need to win that to stay up

the game at vanilla park ended 0-3
Report stu April 22, 2013 1:22 PM BST
You think Villa overpriced at moment?
Report STEPTOES YARD April 22, 2013 2:01 PM BST
been annoying to see all the other sides find wins out the blue just above them

was hoping might be 5-6 sides involved
Report TCat April 22, 2013 2:48 PM BST
Wigan play 2 mid table teams which must give them a good chance of stopping up. However, the tactics of the manager are unfathomable.
Report stu April 22, 2013 2:52 PM BST
In what way exactly Tcat?
Report TCat April 22, 2013 2:58 PM BST
Lots of possession in most games, not many attempts on goal. Look at the stats on saturday. West Ham had as many shots but only a third of the ball.
Report TCat April 22, 2013 2:58 PM BST
Lots of possession in most games, not many attempts on goal. Look at the stats on saturday. West Ham had as many shots but only a third of the ball.
Report stu April 22, 2013 3:00 PM BST
Yeh, guess so - was similar in QPR match too
Report stu April 22, 2013 3:00 PM BST
vs 10 men there though
Report TCat April 22, 2013 3:03 PM BST
The free kick 30 yards out at Newcastle earlier in the season sums things up. Losing the game, but no shot at goal or even a cross in. Ends up back with the Latics goalie.
Report stu April 22, 2013 3:04 PM BST
Is this Martinez instructions you reckon (not just player nerves)?
Report TCat April 22, 2013 3:08 PM BST
Martinez is a good coach of football skills but not sure of his tactical grasp in English football. However, as he's played here long enough I just dont know.
Report ffffmmmm April 22, 2013 3:22 PM BST
Just had another 350 on Wigan to go down , i just can't see where Wigan's points are coming from , but i would gladly lose the bet and see them stay up!!!
Report STEPTOES YARD April 22, 2013 3:23 PM BST
wouldnt shock me if they beat spurs saturday
Report ocukstinky April 26, 2013 1:40 PM BST
Well, I got the 0-3 for villa right. Expected Wigan to have taken a point at least from their last 2 but they haven't. Spurs still fighting for CL next season, West Brom are solid at home, Arsenal will still be in CL contention also. The way Sunderland are playing I actually expect them to turn us over at the weekend but Wigan still need to outscore us by 3 which could be the last game. Quietly confident we'll be ok, we're playing much better than they are and without their jammy last minute winner against Newcastle and equaliser against QPR they'd be 6 behind us now. Luck is not going to go their way for the 7th season running.
Report ocukstinky May 6, 2013 11:41 AM BST
Cool

Do think we're overpriced at 33/1 to go down now, lose to Chelsea, Wigan WILL beat Swansea and we're back in the mix. If Wigan don't beat Swansea they then need to beat Arsenal away..
Report songsforthedeaf May 6, 2013 12:11 PM BST
I dont know the result but Wigan are going to give us a tough game at the Emitrates. I can guarantee you that. Very mixed feelings as an Arsenal fan if we send Wigan down. Think they are becoming my second favourite team now.
Report ocukstinky May 17, 2013 1:47 PM BST

Apr 14, 2013 -- 2:57PM, judorick wrote:


so villa get 7 points from 5 games and wigan 5 points from 7?foysc


Wigan 4 pts from last 6
Villa 7 from last 6

Laugh

Foyc Grin

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