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AndrewMat
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Standings

Paços de Ferreira are currently in the 4th place with 28 points after 16 matches (7 wins, 7 draws and 2 defeats). They are 2 points short of the 3rd place and 7 points ahead of the 6th place.
Estoril are currently in the 8th place with 19 points after 16 matches (5 wins, 4 draws and 7 defeats). They are 6 points short of the 5th place and 5 points ahead of the 15th place.

Primeira Liga Form

In their last 5 matches in Primeira Liga Paços de Ferreira took 12 points (4 wins over Vitória Guimarães, Sporting CP, Académica and Moreirense and 1 loss from Porto). The goal difference in those matches was 9-3 (2.40 goals per game).
In their last 5 matches in Primeira Liga Estoril took 4 points (1 win over Beira-Mar, 1 draw against Olhanense and 3 defeats from Sporting Braga, Benfica and Gil Vicente). The goal difference in those matches was 6-11 (3.40 goals per game).

Home and away Primeira Liga form

In their last 5 home matches in Primeira Liga Paços de Ferreira took 8 points (2 wins over Vitória Guimarães and Académica, 2 draws against Olhanense and Marítimo and 1 defeat from Benfica). The goals difference in those matches was 6-5 (2.20 goals per game).
In their last 5 away matches in Primeira Liga Estoril took 7 points (2 wins over Académica and Beira-Mar, 1 draw against Sporting CP and 2 defeates from Nacional and Sporting Braga). The goals difference in those matches was 5-6 (2.20 goals per game)

Head-to-head

The last matches between these two:

05.02.2012 Estoril - Paços de Ferreira 0:1 (Taça da Liga)
26.08.2012 Estoril - Paços de Ferreira 1:1 (Primeira Liga)
21.10.2012 Estoril - Paços de Ferreira 1:2 (Taça de Portugal)

In these 3 matches Paços de Ferreira took 2 wins, Estoril had 0 victories and 1 match ended in a draw. There were 2 unders and 1 overs. There were 0 home victories and 2 away victories. Goals difference is 4-2 (2.00 goals per game).

Goals

Paços de Ferreira scored 22 goals in 16 games (1.38 per match) and conceded 12 goals in 16 games (0.75 per match). They had 9 clean sheets this season and failed to score in 4 matches. There is an average of 2.13 goals scored in their matches (the 15th best scoring result out of 16).
Estoril scored 24 goals in 16 games (1.50 per match) and conceded 25 goals in 16 games (1.56 per match). They had 4 clean sheets this season and failed to score in 2 matches. There is an average of 3.06 goals scored in their matches (the 6th best scoring result out of 16).

Number of goals

Paços de Ferreira had 3 matches with 0 goals in it, 3 matches with 1 goal, 5 matches with 2 goals, 2 matches with 3 goals, 1 match with 4 goals, 1 match with 5 goals, 1 match with 6 goals, 0 matches with 7 goals and 0 matches with more than 7 goals.
Estoril had 0 matches with 0 goals in it, 2 matches with 1 goal, 3 matches with 2 goals, 5 matches with 3 goals, 5 matches with 4 goals, 0 matches with 5 goals, 1 match with 6 goals, 0 matches with 7 goals and 0 matches with more than 7 goals.

Biggest victories and defeats

Paços de Ferreira's biggest win at home this season was a 2-0 victory and the biggest win away this season was a 5-0 victory. Their biggest home defeat was with 1-2 score and their biggest away defeat was with 0-2 score.
Estoril's biggest win at home this season was a 3-0 victory and the biggest win away this season was a 2-0 victory. Their biggest home defeat was with 1-3 score and their biggest away defeat was with 0-3 score.
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Report lmcgbob February 4, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
whats the ruling here if they call it off? match settled as draw or all bets voided?
Report MrLay0-0 February 4, 2013 9:46 PM GMT
id imagine all bets voided
Report hgsrhsrdjhdx February 4, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
If the event is not completed within three days after the scheduled completion date, then all bets on markets for this event will be void, except for bets on any markets that have been unconditionally determined.
Report riverrunsthroughit February 4, 2013 9:50 PM GMT
How can you call a match off due to the weather with 7 mins left???
Report tomo84 February 4, 2013 9:51 PM GMT
did they decide what to do?
Report taffkoi February 4, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
they play in china
Report snooki151 February 4, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
its been foggy since at least half time when i started watching, and the game was officially stopped with like 12/13 minutes left
Report lybertyne February 4, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
cancel it and replay next week please!
Report tomo84 February 4, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
if it is all about the fog, it will only get worse as they will wait... :|
Report nicky27 February 4, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
gotta feel for 0-0 backers here , especially at juicy prices before kick off
Report csibee February 4, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
terrible match.. please cancel
Report snooki151 February 4, 2013 9:56 PM GMT
yeah, if they were gonna play it, surely they would have by now? (hopefully)
Report Greenknight February 4, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
Rules are clear in Portugal: When game is interrupted because of weather, 30 minutes will be given by the referee to assess conditions and a possible restart. If after 30 minutes conditions are still not sufficient, remaining game will be played in the following day at 16:00. If at 16:00 of the following day there are still no conditions, game will be undefinitely postponed.
Report gaz255 February 4, 2013 10:01 PM GMT
doesnt look that bad for 7 mins play-the laws are that if the ref on half way can see both goals its ok
Report Greenknight February 4, 2013 10:01 PM GMT
Thus, if fog does not lift in the next 3 minutes, game will be restarted from minute 75 tomorrow 5-Feb-2013 at 16:00.
Report nicky27 February 4, 2013 10:02 PM GMT
thats interesting green Knight , may suit some but not others , i think thats fair enough
Report ElGreco101 February 4, 2013 10:03 PM GMT
What's the score and how many minutes gone?
Report wisewords February 4, 2013 10:04 PM GMT
0-0 backers seeth. a goal will happen if they play it tomorrow
Report wisewords February 4, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
officially postponed.
Report tomo84 February 4, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
looks like they decided to postpone it
Report wisewords February 4, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
14 mins left on the clock, 0-0 scoreline.
Report Esox February 4, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
Commentator says game to be played again.
Report Greenknight February 4, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
Okay, it's official. Game will be restarted tomorrow at minute 75, and by mutual agreement at 17:00. Hope this info was helpful. :)
Report ElGreco101 February 4, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
Thanks wisewords. Come on PdF!
Report Greenknight February 4, 2013 10:11 PM GMT
Now I don't understand why Betfair always locks our money away. Bettors should be able to trade their positions whenever they want. It's always the same cr@p. I'm not concerned having bet under 4.5 goals but I may not be interested in continue to play.
Report ddas February 4, 2013 10:13 PM GMT
its info right? tomorrow at 17:00?
Report AndrewMat February 4, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
They only locked away my profit, but still embarrasing, you are right. 17:00 Portugal time is 17:00 GMT, as I understand?
Report ddas February 4, 2013 10:16 PM GMT
yes futbol24 says also tomorrow at 76. min
Report cloughandtaylor February 4, 2013 10:19 PM GMT
Surely the 0-0 backers will have exited with most of the stake by 76 mins, would not expect too much goalmouth action between these 2 in the remaining time either.
Report Greenknight February 4, 2013 10:26 PM GMT

Feb 4, 2013 -- 10:14PM, AndrewMat wrote:


They only locked away my profit, but still embarrasing, you are right. 17:00 Portugal time is 17:00 GMT, as I understand?


Yes indeed. Portugal time = UK/Ireland time (GMT).

Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 6:53 AM GMT
Thanks, GK Cool
Report mande February 5, 2013 9:56 AM GMT
Why is this game still suspended? They could easily add current situation to each markets "rules" page and unsuspend markets.
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 9:58 AM GMT
mande, welcome to Betfair, the best fair in the world Laugh
Report mande February 5, 2013 10:20 AM GMT
ty, been here for a while though :D they always surprise me with lack of respect to their customers.
Report gibo1981 February 5, 2013 11:57 AM GMT
I'm screwed here! Placed a bet at 5/2 on the draw at BetVictor and laid at 3.0 on here...

Of course betvictor have voided my bet (as per their terms...)
Report lybertyne February 5, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
could be a goal.  players won't be tired.
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
14 minutes left for a goal, I doubt it will come, as both will be more eager not to concede
Report regargui February 5, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
No hope of a goal. At all.
Report gibo1981 February 5, 2013 3:16 PM GMT
Here we go Betvictor:

1.6. Abandoned Matches
Should a match be abandoned before 90 minutes play then all bets will bets will be void unless a definitive result for the market has already been determined prior to abandonment, these will be settled according to the official result, for example, first Goalscorer, half-time betting, time of first Goal.

1.7. Postponed Matches
Bets placed on postponed matches will be void unless that match is played the following Day.


So the game is both abandoned and postponed, but also not: It is delayed in my opinion. I have gained no advantage: the teams are the same, the game commences as it was.

Think I may have a some margin with Betvictor to IBAS it if the game ends in a draw.
Report tomo84 February 5, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
it starts in an hour, right?
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
Should start in 30 minutes
Report gaz255 February 5, 2013 4:53 PM GMT
was on tv-is it now??
Report ddas February 5, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
will be open the market??? have a bad feeling. think its on end nothing with my under 1,5 kombi here. ft 1:1 - want lay my under
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
Come on, ddas, they are not scoring one, let alone two here
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:00 PM GMT
Is there any streams for this match?
Report tomo84 February 5, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
any Portugese people here?
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
newer know in portugal... :) read last news from europol about the newest (official) betting scandal
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
Doubt there are
Report tomo84 February 5, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
livescore.com says it's on, 78"
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
Flashscore is showing as KO so i've no idea if it's started
Report GoldG February 5, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
goal Ferreira
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
Yay. Glad one team done their homework
Report Benfica_Fan February 5, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
im portuguese

http://tvfree4.me/sporttv-directo    link to the game
Report jinxyjack February 5, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
aparently its started.. still suspended betting... this is typical fro betfair...
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
thanks
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:05 PM GMT
thx jinxyjack
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
damn i knowed 1:0 do you see tomo84? 1:1 ft its a arragement 100%
Report jinxyjack February 5, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
goal pacos.. this is pathetic... service from betfair..
Report eleedr February 5, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
What minute are we on?
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
Has this ever happened in the UK i.e stopped with 10mins left and would they replay it the next day?
Report gaz255 February 5, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
80
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
The stream is saying 84th
Report Mr Ed February 5, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
I layed pacos @3.5 on a rival site !!!
doh !!
Report tomo84 February 5, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
i wonder how much time will ref add here
Report Benfica_Fan February 5, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
87m 1-0
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
I wonder what would happen if this was man utd. It would cost them a fortune to play the game the next day unless they do it behind close doors
Report The_Establishment February 5, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
This is an account closer for me, i wanted to lay my 0-0 last night and today.
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
lol, ridiculous Betfair... the game is being broadcast, and you know why they don't open it?
Report epdavies February 5, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
I layed 0-0 just a couple of minutes before play stopped last night, I'll get my winnings, won't I? The fact the market is suspended has me worried.
Report tomo84 February 5, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
+3min
Report MrLay0-0 February 5, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
they are incapable?
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
Because they don't have "agents" there, all the betting houses hire the same agents who broadcasts them results.
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
The_Establishment, at least don't leave the forum please, you were of great contribution for it throughout all these years Wink
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
These agents tell them by special channels to suspend/resume games
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
TO greennight. So will the honour the final score
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
They don't open games if they have not their agents, even if you have live broadcasts, which tells you hw much they trust TV
Report jcpearson February 5, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
TO greennight. So will BF honour the final score and bets placed before the stoppage?
Report The_Establishment February 5, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
**** you
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
I think yeah
Report jinxyjack February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
apparently the market wasntreopened.. because they couldnt obtain live feed.. so all markets will be settled on the ft result.. to hell with all the customers who wanted to layoff what they had invested in yesterdays game,,,  bloody ridiculous
... seriously thinking of ending my betfair experience.
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
They'll check the score at official site when they have time, they really don't care about your money
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
1-0 FT
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
pheew good under 1.5 :)
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
bud ugly service really from betfair
Report gaz255 February 5, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
into added time
Report GoldG February 5, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
Excellent outcome.
Report MrLay0-0 February 5, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
terrible service
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
maximum disrespect for bettors
Report thebulletdodger February 5, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
I'm with 1-0 had lots of money on Pacos win
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
I didn't expect my under 4.5 goals to be beaten... but I could have bet on a win after the goal, Paços wounn't let a goal in for sure, 2nd best defence in the league
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
sensation team froma 10 000 inhabitants town
Report Biscuit1979 February 5, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
Love to hear their reasoning for not re-opening the market
Report MrLay0-0 February 5, 2013 5:20 PM GMT
i laid 0-0, but still cant believe they did not reopen market, disgraceful
Report thebulletdodger February 5, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
FT 1-0 It is somewhat nicer for me I would have traded out my winnings for sure
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
Ohhh, Betfair has already payed the profits... so, they were aware and they didn't willingfully open the market!!
Report ddas February 5, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
Kombi's not yet
Report Violencia Fantastico Retardo February 5, 2013 5:27 PM GMT

Feb 4, 2013 -- 7:49PM, Violencia Fantastico Retardo wrote:


HT/FT...Draw/Paços @ 5.8 is the one for me....Estoril will keep it tight but fall away 2nd half. been the story of their season away from homeg/l all


BOOOOOOOOOOOM

Forgot about it to tell you the truth.....nice earner all the same

Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
I remember they reopened an exactly identical situation one year ago and there was not even broadcast available. So, we can take our conclusions.
Report Greenknight February 5, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
Anyway... Paços in the 3rd place... lol, this is something like Tranmere Rovers in position for the champions league... lol!
Report AndrewMat February 5, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
Tranmere Rovers... Hmmm... don't know what division they are in, but surely it is not a fair comparasion.
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