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Luis Suarez has admitted that he dived in a bid to win a penalty for Liverpool against Stoke.
Suarez hit the headlines earlier this season when he attempted an audacious double dive against the Potters during their goalless draw with the Reds at Anfield in October.
Arsenal defender Laurent Koscielny branded the Uruguayan a cheat on the back of the incident, which reignited the debate on players diving in the Premier League.
But in an interview aired in Argentina today, Suarez came clean about his actions during the stalemate with Tony Pulis's side, insisting that he embarked on simulation in order to win but also alleged that he has also become the subject of unfair treatment from the media.
He said: "I don't listen all the nonsense some people say about me. I'm accused of cheating here. People say I throw myself all the time inside the box.
"Let's see, they said that when we played against Stoke, for instance, and in that case they were right. I invented a foul because we were drawing 0-0 against Stoke and I wanted to win.
"Sometimes on the pitch I say to myself 'what have I done?' But the name of Suarez sells papers.
"The other day, for instance, I touched the ball with my hand accidentally, and I was criticised because I kissed my hand. The media make up a lot of things about me because they want to sell papers. I say to the media: you should talk more about football, not about other stuff."
Liverpool are currently reaping the rewards of an in-form Suarez, who has now scored 19 goals in all competitions this season, but it has not been without controversy, after he handled the ball when scoring the winning goal in their FA Cup win over Mansfield earlier this month.
And the 25-year-old feels that he and his fellow South Americans are targeted in the English top flight due to what he has again claimed is Manchester United's controlling of the media.
'When someone comes and says to me something bad about being a South American, I don't cry, because that happens inside the pitch. I have my conscience clean. But as I have said: Manchester United controls the media, they are powerful and the media will always help them," he added.
"I can help Liverpool today. We are united and we can play well. Liverpool doesn't depend on me. It's complicated to play here in England.
"As Carlitos (Carlos Tevez) and Kun (Sergio Aguero) has said, it's complicated for a South American footballer to be here as we are treated differently to the local footballers.
"But they have their culture, they are like this, you know. I have to play football, which is what I always wanted, but I have suffered a lot for being a footballer."
Suarez hit the headlines earlier this season when he attempted an audacious double dive against the Potters during their goalless draw with the Reds at Anfield in October.
Arsenal defender Laurent Koscielny branded the Uruguayan a cheat on the back of the incident, which reignited the debate on players diving in the Premier League.
But in an interview aired in Argentina today, Suarez came clean about his actions during the stalemate with Tony Pulis's side, insisting that he embarked on simulation in order to win but also alleged that he has also become the subject of unfair treatment from the media.
He said: "I don't listen all the nonsense some people say about me. I'm accused of cheating here. People say I throw myself all the time inside the box.
"Let's see, they said that when we played against Stoke, for instance, and in that case they were right. I invented a foul because we were drawing 0-0 against Stoke and I wanted to win.
"Sometimes on the pitch I say to myself 'what have I done?' But the name of Suarez sells papers.
"The other day, for instance, I touched the ball with my hand accidentally, and I was criticised because I kissed my hand. The media make up a lot of things about me because they want to sell papers. I say to the media: you should talk more about football, not about other stuff."
Liverpool are currently reaping the rewards of an in-form Suarez, who has now scored 19 goals in all competitions this season, but it has not been without controversy, after he handled the ball when scoring the winning goal in their FA Cup win over Mansfield earlier this month.
And the 25-year-old feels that he and his fellow South Americans are targeted in the English top flight due to what he has again claimed is Manchester United's controlling of the media.
'When someone comes and says to me something bad about being a South American, I don't cry, because that happens inside the pitch. I have my conscience clean. But as I have said: Manchester United controls the media, they are powerful and the media will always help them," he added.
"I can help Liverpool today. We are united and we can play well. Liverpool doesn't depend on me. It's complicated to play here in England.
"As Carlitos (Carlos Tevez) and Kun (Sergio Aguero) has said, it's complicated for a South American footballer to be here as we are treated differently to the local footballers.
"But they have their culture, they are like this, you know. I have to play football, which is what I always wanted, but I have suffered a lot for being a footballer."
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Media show close scrutiny of cheat, racist, toerag shocker!
"I say to the media: you should talk more about football, not about other stuff."
stop cheating and they probably will
stop cheating and they probably will
Apart from the fa, utd and evra stating he wasn't a racist - can you show me the evidence that he is a racist please m-l. Your name is obv taking the p as otherwise it is surprising that you let yourself be so easily led and believe what you read in the press and don't form your own opinion from all the evidence! Was the foul Scholes inflicted late last night any less of a cheat than a dive - 'no' to anybody that vaguely understands the modern game 'yes' to sheep who can't think for themselves.
Gary Linekar is/was feted over here as a supreme sportsman, no yellow blah blah and a jolly good fellow - in most of africa (esp cameroon) he is known as a cheat and the q final from 1990 is called 'the game where Linekar dived'. The dive is never mentioned over here as we all know that Englishmen don't dive........
Gary Linekar is/was feted over here as a supreme sportsman, no yellow blah blah and a jolly good fellow - in most of africa (esp cameroon) he is known as a cheat and the q final from 1990 is called 'the game where Linekar dived'. The dive is never mentioned over here as we all know that Englishmen don't dive........
Comparing Suarez's dives to Lineker is comical. And desperate.
At least he admitted it. Not sure many others do.
That's true but to complain you are accused of being a cheat in England and then admit to cheating is rather ironic.
that blows his mega bucks deal to city, chelsea or Man U.
that blows his mega bucks deal to city, chelsea or Man U.
because they don't like their divers admitting to it?
because they don't like their divers admitting to it?
TheBetterBettor 17 Jan 13 11:11
that blows his mega bucks deal to city, chelsea or Man U.
Are you fecking fishing?!?!
More chance of Michael Owen managing Liverpool.....
that blows his mega bucks deal to city, chelsea or Man U.
Are you fecking fishing?!?!
More chance of Michael Owen managing Liverpool.....
LOL @ all the bitter suarez haters, if rooney did this it would be all "what a class act".
Its only because he is foreign he get this stick, and yet the cheek of people to call him the racist scum. get a life
Its only because he is foreign he get this stick, and yet the cheek of people to call him the racist scum. get a life
Brendan Rodgers doesn't seem to agree with you Phil. He thinks its 'unacceptable', I doubt whether its because Suarez is 'foreign'.
dont think Phil Neville was punished when he admitted diving.
Neville fined by his club and criticized by his manager
What does Rodgers mean by saying it is "Unacceptable" when hearing that Suarez admitted diving?
Is it unacceptable to dive or unacceptable to own up to being a cheat?
Is it unacceptable to dive or unacceptable to own up to being a cheat?
PHILthePOWER 17 Jan 13 14:56
LOL @ all the bitter suarez haters, if rooney did this it would be all "what a class act".
Its only because he is foreign he get this stick, and yet the cheek of people to call him the racist scum. get a life
Where to start???
So you forget about Gerrard getting loads of stick for diving (his Sheff Utd 'heels behind ears when not touched' especially springs to mind)?
You say to critise Suarez is based on racism. Out of everyone on this thread there is only one person mentioning anything to do with race. Only one person mentioning he is foreign. That will be the person who notices the difference in colour/race, and uses it to make a point.
In my world, that is the real racism.
LOL @ all the bitter suarez haters, if rooney did this it would be all "what a class act".
Its only because he is foreign he get this stick, and yet the cheek of people to call him the racist scum. get a life
Where to start???
So you forget about Gerrard getting loads of stick for diving (his Sheff Utd 'heels behind ears when not touched' especially springs to mind)?
You say to critise Suarez is based on racism. Out of everyone on this thread there is only one person mentioning anything to do with race. Only one person mentioning he is foreign. That will be the person who notices the difference in colour/race, and uses it to make a point.
In my world, that is the real racism.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 9:55AM, Marxist-Leninist wrote:
Media show close scrutiny of cheat, racist, toerag shocker!
Just for you shab.... you missed have missed in in your haste to post.
I'll try that in English now....you must have missed it in your haste to post!
Not really - that quote relates to Suarez being the cheat, racist, toerag.
What I can't take is somebody saying I (and anyone else) must be a racist because we say bad things about somebody else who happens to be not white.
It is usually an admission by the user that they have no other argument, so bring race into the mix (which is exactly what racists do as well).
What I can't take is somebody saying I (and anyone else) must be a racist because we say bad things about somebody else who happens to be not white.
It is usually an admission by the user that they have no other argument, so bring race into the mix (which is exactly what racists do as well).
Wow another Suarez thread.
Some folk on here are obsessed with him.
What about the other players that dive about all over the shop? Where are the dailly threads about them?
Some folk on here are obsessed with him.
What about the other players that dive about all over the shop? Where are the dailly threads about them?
Jan 17, 2013 -- 5:31PM, JamDav1982 wrote:
Wow another Suarez thread.Some folk on here are obsessed with him.What about the other players that dive about all over the shop? Where are the dailly threads about them?
Quite ironic that given it's Suarez who only seems to be able to talk about United recently.
How is that in any way ironic?
Players talk about other clubs all the time.
Players talk about other clubs all the time.
Not to the extent Suarez and his paranoid thoughts.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 5:36PM, hohohogreengiant wrote:
Not to the extent Suarez and his paranoid thoughts.
So only Suarez ever mentions things like that against Man Utd?
Players do it all the time when talking about other clubs. All you have showed is that you are one of the ones that focuses on him for it.
haha. Seriously?? Not surprised he has those paranoid conspiracy theories given your delusional fans have spouted it for the past 2 decades for the main reason why you've failed to compete.
On one hand a lot of Manchester United fans hold Fergie up as some kind of Jedi for his mind games and how he uses the press, pressures referees etc.
Yet when someone else points that out he is classed by those same fans as a paranoid wreck.
Yet when someone else points that out he is classed by those same fans as a paranoid wreck.
This guy is becoming boring...must have a brain the size of a pea. Why does he not just shut up and play the game.
Missed a massive PR opp with the handball against a non league team and it will cost him countless fouls in the future.
Missed a massive PR opp with the handball against a non league team and it will cost him countless fouls in the future.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 5:46PM, JamDav1982 wrote:
On one hand a lot of Manchester United fans hold Fergie up as some kind of Jedi for his mind games and how he uses the press, pressures referees etc.Yet when someone else points that out he is classed by those same fans as a paranoid wreck.
There's making comments about teams and referees (as nearly EVERY manager does) and there's claiming it's run by a team.. I like his statement about "United wanting him out the team to harm Liverpool".. Yes Luis, that's right. We forced you to say what you did because we where threatened by a team that finished 37pts behind and who at that time was mid table fodder.
He is not boring to watch R0y.
If he was boring he would not be the most talked about player in the league almost every week.
What do you think was his massive PR opp against the lower league team? What should he have done?
If he was boring he would not be the most talked about player in the league almost every week.
What do you think was his massive PR opp against the lower league team? What should he have done?
And that's my final word on the "man". I'm annoyed i've taken 5 mins of my time taking/thinking about him.
If he was boring he would not be the most talked about player in the league almost every week.
What do you think was his massive PR opp against the lower league team? What should he have done?
Can you read Jam? I said he's becoming boring..suarez this suarez that. Got to see him for 90mins against us and he was dire...probably tired from all his nonsense.
Could have started a sea change in opinion if he'd done a robbie fowler and said to the ref I handled it. I would not advocate a normal footballer to do so but this chap should have realised what a great opportunity it was to effect opinion and crucially decisions in the future.
Instead he goes and gives an interview confirming he dived which will do him the world of good going forward.
What do you think was his massive PR opp against the lower league team? What should he have done?
Can you read Jam? I said he's becoming boring..suarez this suarez that. Got to see him for 90mins against us and he was dire...probably tired from all his nonsense.
Could have started a sea change in opinion if he'd done a robbie fowler and said to the ref I handled it. I would not advocate a normal footballer to do so but this chap should have realised what a great opportunity it was to effect opinion and crucially decisions in the future.
Instead he goes and gives an interview confirming he dived which will do him the world of good going forward.
Honestly R0y what a load of rubbish.
Referees get tens of decisions wrong a game, it is not up to the players to point this out.
Why did you not post the same thing about Young and his diving last season? Should he have not just stood up and said 'I dived'.
Referees get tens of decisions wrong a game, it is not up to the players to point this out.
Why did you not post the same thing about Young and his diving last season? Should he have not just stood up and said 'I dived'.
R0ykeane
Could have started a sea change in opinion if he'd done a robbie fowler and said to the ref I handled it.
Suarez said, " I touched the ball with my hand accidentally,"
DO you know how to read Roy ??????
Could have started a sea change in opinion if he'd done a robbie fowler and said to the ref I handled it.
Suarez said, " I touched the ball with my hand accidentally,"
DO you know how to read Roy ??????
'power'fan...rename yourself CretinFan.
I mean he could have told the ref and then the ref would have reversed the decision. Cue mass 'oh, he's not that bad'. It was a non league team ffs.
I mean he could have told the ref and then the ref would have reversed the decision. Cue mass 'oh, he's not that bad'. It was a non league team ffs.
What a load of sh1t this is.have said before the way suarez gets treated is bordering on racist,did the media slaughter owen when he dived against argentina answer no because he was English,other examples rooney and beckham and cannot be arsed but pretty sure you can get a player from every PL team who as dived.
' English,other examples rooney and beckham...Gerrard'
Players dont do that R0y it as simple as that.
You are making yourself look a fool as usual for singling Suarez out.
As I said before did Ronaldo ever tell a referee when he dived at Man Utd? Does Ashley Young or Rooney when they do it?
I am guessing you will have no real come back and post some boring picture as is your defualt response when been made to look a fool. Hence the frequency of them.
You are making yourself look a fool as usual for singling Suarez out.
As I said before did Ronaldo ever tell a referee when he dived at Man Utd? Does Ashley Young or Rooney when they do it?
I am guessing you will have no real come back and post some boring picture as is your defualt response when been made to look a fool. Hence the frequency of them.
u should rename urself complete waste of perfectly good oxygen or simplify it some and just be King of the Idiots.
You want him to say, "hey ref i've accidentally handballed that,".......................r u serious????????
on masse, "he's not that bad,".............well, you accidentally got right there, he's not that bad at all.
You want him to say, "hey ref i've accidentally handballed that,".......................r u serious????????
on masse, "he's not that bad,".............well, you accidentally got right there, he's not that bad at all.
So Suarez being being under such close scrutiny is entirely down to racism and has absolutely nothing to do with his deliberate handball in the World Cup?
Jan 17, 2013 -- 7:18PM, ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
So Suarez being being under such close scrutiny is entirely down to racism and has absolutely nothing to do with his deliberate handball in the World Cup?
Powerfan..a brighter footballer and a brighter 'powerfan' would have seen what a good chance it was for a pr coup which would ultimately benefit the club and the player...its simple enough.
Jam suarez is not just any player. Look at the pr front becks put on when he was vilified following his sending off against the argies..
Let me put this simply...If suarez were under fergie's stewardship all this nonsense would be dealt with very differently
Jam suarez is not just any player. Look at the pr front becks put on when he was vilified following his sending off against the argies..
Let me put this simply...If suarez were under fergie's stewardship all this nonsense would be dealt with very differently
Suarez is trying to manipulate his way into a window move, and leave his nightmare that is known as liverpool fc.
^^^^^ upsetting Brenda is just the start. He will await further instructions from his agent. Timing is everything
Jan 17, 2013 -- 7:34PM, R0ykeane wrote:
Powerfan..a brighter footballer and a brighter 'powerfan' would have seen what a good chance it was for a pr coup which would ultimately benefit the club and the player...its simple enough.Jam suarez is not just any player. Look at the pr front becks put on when he was vilified following his sending off against the argies..Let me put this simply...If suarez were under fergie's stewardship all this nonsense would be dealt with very differently
What like he stopped Ronaldo diving? Like he stoppped Ashley Young diving?
Stop with the Fergie myths R0y.
Again R0y if it was such a good PR opportunity why did Ronaldo never admit to diving at Man Utd or why did Ahsley Young not admit to it last season.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 7:35PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:
Suarez is trying to manipulate his way into a window move, and leave his nightmare that is known as liverpool fc.
Probably why he signed a contract in the summer, makes sense.
Again u got something right. U put nonsense in your post which sums up ur view perfectly Roy.
Yip he is the only cheat in England you are correct Captain Christy as usual.
Again you are making baseless comments, back them up.
Seems the Liverpool admin squad are out in full force tonight.
I thought you couldnt back that up.
The EPL is as bad as any league now for diving.
Wake up.
The EPL is as bad as any league now for diving.
Wake up.
How can I when they are deleting posts, the Liverpool mafia.
Suarez and Bale have been the worst for diving this season, worse than anything in Spain.
There are as about an average 50 dives a game in Spanish football, just part of the game there.
Again you are just making general statements that have nothing to back them up.
You are very good at that.
You are very good at that.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 8:48PM, JamDav1982 wrote:
I thought you couldnt back that up.The EPL is as bad as any league now for diving.Wake up.
Wouldn't go that far Jam... Italy and Spain are much worse for diving. Its horrible to watch.
You are good at talking shiite, we can see the proof of that every day.
Once again a post that proves nothing.
Tremendous stuff Captain Christy.
Tremendous stuff Captain Christy.
don't get him onto Spain greengiant he is like the 3 monkeys regarding Spain.
I take it you watch a lot of Spanish football then Captain Christy?
Spanish football is a massive cheatfest, dreadful stuff, come on everyone knows that?
Did Brendan Rodgers not think at the time of Suarez's horrendous dive against Stoke it was "unacceptable" on the day? if so he should have came out and said it after the match and the thing would have been put to bed, then it would read better if Suarez had said "i dived against Stoke, but immediately after the game the manager left me in no doubt that this was not acceptable at a club like Liverpool."
So you watch Spanish football then Captain Christy?
You seem to claim to know all about it yet you go on as if watching a game would be the last thing you would do.
You seem to claim to know all about it yet you go on as if watching a game would be the last thing you would do.
Captain Christy - top five divers in Spanish football?
he was just rehearsing his acting skills for when he goes to La Liga.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 8:56PM, Captain Christy wrote:
he was just rehearsing his acting skills for when he goes to La Liga.
He plays in the EPL you nugget.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 8:51PM, JamDav1982 wrote:
No chance, the EPL has become just as bad.
Can't agree.. Every game I watch in Spain has at least a couple. EPL is bad/getting there, but not comparable yet IMO.
I can't watch it anymore Jamdav, it makes me absolutely sick.
I see you dont watch it but you know that there are '50 dives a game'.
Contradicting yourself a bit there.
Contradicting yourself a bit there.
I used to watch it, but refuse to now, it disgusts me, I will not put myself through the torture just to prove to you what I know already.
Captian Christy: 'there are 50 dives a game in Spain'
Name me the top five divers?
Captain Christy: 'I cant I dont watch it'
Wow good steady argument you have going there.
Name me the top five divers?
Captain Christy: 'I cant I dont watch it'
Wow good steady argument you have going there.
Ah I see used to watch it.
Well I still watch both so feel more qualified than you to comment.
Well I still watch both so feel more qualified than you to comment.
I've seen more than enough of those cheats down the years, diving, rolling around, feigning injury, unfortunately the 'success' of these methods has meant they've spread here as well, congratulations Spain, you've killed the game.
Again bland general comments that prove nothing.
Well done.
Well done.
I give up, the admin idiots just delete posts for no reason.
I at least expect you to back up statements like 'the success of Spanish sides through diving and cheating'.
Try and back that up by giving examples without giving a general answer like 'they all do it every game'.
I gurantee you wont.
Try and back that up by giving examples without giving a general answer like 'they all do it every game'.
I gurantee you wont.
cob
Probably why he signed a contract in the summer, makes sense.
and I bet that new contract has a 25 million pound bid release clause
Probably why he signed a contract in the summer, makes sense.
and I bet that new contract has a 25 million pound bid release clause
congratulations Spain, you've killed the game
Stoke currently trying to dig the game out of its grave!.
Stoke currently trying to dig the game out of its grave!.
There is no mathematical formula JamDav, surely even you with your limited intelligence can see this?
Boom! As expected you avoid answering and give a bland general statement.
Not looking for a 'mathematical formula'.
Just looking for examples of when Spanish teams have based their success on diving.
Not looking for a 'mathematical formula'.
Just looking for examples of when Spanish teams have based their success on diving.
Jan 17, 2013 -- 9:09PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:
cobProbably why he signed a contract in the summer, makes sense.and I bet that new contract has a 25 million pound bid release clause
Sound of him to make himself more expensive to buy whilst angling for a move.
If every player in the EPL who cheats were to leave it would be a five a side league.
Every game you watch there is holding, shirt pulling, disputing fouls and throw-ins, corners etc. when the ball has clearly touched them last.
Suarez is lamblasted by all and sundry especially United fans but he is one of many.
I suggest a lot of fans take a good look at their own teams behaviour.
Every game you watch there is holding, shirt pulling, disputing fouls and throw-ins, corners etc. when the ball has clearly touched them last.
Suarez is lamblasted by all and sundry especially United fans but he is one of many.
I suggest a lot of fans take a good look at their own teams behaviour.
Manchester United, the most powerful club in the country, Fergie, the most influential manager there's ever been, David Gill becoming a very powerful figure within the F.A. ITV build their football coverage around United for commercial reasons, and make sure they don't upset anyone at the club. Sky and Rupert Murdoch have formed an embedded coalition with them. Many people in football know the score but are powerless to do anything about it. Fans complain about it but are accused of conjuring up paranoid conspiracy theories. Suarez, like many outside this country are aware of the corroding bias pervading our game. When Rafa refers to this it gets labelled a rant, when Martinez at Wigan pointed out Fergie's abuse of his seniority he had to quickly retract or face the wrath of the Evil Empire, when Fergie reminded Pardew about the debt owed we get an insight into the machiavellian activities he's employed down the years with football relationships. Hopefully, as the prejudice practices of English football continue, more of us will agitate for change. The struggle continues, Power to the People!
Sky panel is obviously the president of the tin foil hat brigade.
1) correct if mistaken.. But do Allardyce and Martinez FA charges have in common?? Hmmmm
2) can somebody actually list so called dives from Suarez with clips where absolutely no contact was made??
Stoke game aside..even the challenge before flop should be viewed closely.
3) 2 wrongs don't always make aright but why should Suarez tell the ref anything when they missed so many fouls before??!!
It's not as if the mancs don't raise their hands for a throwing or corner when they clearly had the last touch!!!
2) can somebody actually list so called dives from Suarez with clips where absolutely no contact was made??
Stoke game aside..even the challenge before flop should be viewed closely.
3) 2 wrongs don't always make aright but why should Suarez tell the ref anything when they missed so many fouls before??!!
It's not as if the mancs don't raise their hands for a throwing or corner when they clearly had the last touch!!!
Sky Panel - good post. Ferguson has tried to demonize Suarez. The 'handshake'that wasn't was engineered by Ferguson leading him to make the statement " Suarez should never play for Liverpool again. "
Suarez admits to having dived in the past but he is an amateur compared with Ronaldo, Nani, and Ashley Cole but very little comment about that from the evil empire.
Suarez admits to having dived in the past but he is an amateur compared with Ronaldo, Nani, and Ashley Cole but very little comment about that from the evil empire.
so much cobblers spouted about this.
the facts are;
suarez dived, not the first to do it, wont be the last, got a bit of previous, but from what i've seen he's not as bad as he was.
his manager [the same as most prem managers do] tried to "muddy the waters" and "protect" his player and club.
suarez then admits he dived and slightly undermines his manager who feels the player has dropped him in it and therefore gets the 'ump.
all the rest is playground stuff, and quite frankly for roy to say that in the blink of an eye a premiership footballer should be able to weigh up the pros and cons of a pr move is ridiculous.
especially as if the referee did disallow the goal he would actually have been wrong in law strictly speaking.
the facts are;
suarez dived, not the first to do it, wont be the last, got a bit of previous, but from what i've seen he's not as bad as he was.
his manager [the same as most prem managers do] tried to "muddy the waters" and "protect" his player and club.
suarez then admits he dived and slightly undermines his manager who feels the player has dropped him in it and therefore gets the 'ump.
all the rest is playground stuff, and quite frankly for roy to say that in the blink of an eye a premiership footballer should be able to weigh up the pros and cons of a pr move is ridiculous.
especially as if the referee did disallow the goal he would actually have been wrong in law strictly speaking.
As if we needed Suarez to come out and say he is a compulsive cheat the dive against Stoke was obviously premeditated, Bale is the other one currently at it on a game to game basis.
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