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Report naz1 January 13, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
i have set an account up today with paddy power and placed a 20 pound bet on rvp 1st goal, i have gone back onto my account and its closed.I started an online chat an supposedly i had an account last august and permentley closed it so they have refunded me my 20 pound and refused to pay out, can they do this? should my bet stand?
Report Cubanpete January 13, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
They can do what they like. You are lucky they gave you your money back. I would have thought them feckers would have trousered your cash and had you shot.
Report Schalke 04 January 13, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
it's not like it was a huge bet, miserable sods ...
Report Schalke 04 January 13, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
Eh, supposedly had an account? Can they not clarify how you had a previous bet?
Report Schalke 04 January 13, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
did they refund your bet before or after van persie scored?
Report naz1 January 13, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
according to them i closed my account in july last year, and no
Report never give up January 13, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
u have to get paid
Report Schalke 04 January 13, 2013 3:34 PM GMT
I would take the further ... so by what they are saying if you close an acccount then decide to open one again you are not allowed, thats just bullsh!t ... I would deffo enquire about it more
Report dr . atkins January 13, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
did they close your 1st account or did you
Report naz1 January 13, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
i never had an account with them to my knowledge but there saying all details are the same and previously i have asked it to be permentenly closed so not allowed another account
Report Regular Fries January 13, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
I thought this was going to be a thread about them paying out on United winning title
Report donny osmond January 13, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
The firm itself doesn't appear to take their heritage (or anything) too seriously: “Some say the name comes from two well known brands of Irish whiskey, some believe it’s a kind of Irish superhero. The truth is, we’ve forgotten”, and their marketing is somewhat different to their competitors. Indeed, the Dublin based firm admit that their approach is "the marketing equivalent of running up and slapping you in the face" and their tongue in cheek, mischievous approach certainly courts controversy, with advertising campaigns, PR stunts and close-to-the-bone markets all drawing criticism.

Examples of this include:

An advert showing two old ladies crossing a zebra crossing with a menacing 4x4 in the distance and odds alongside each granny (Paddy Power claimed the odds were on who would cross the road first, not which would be run over, but the ad was banned anyway).

One ad depicting Jesus at the Last Supper sitting in front of a pile of gambling chips and another offering odds of 100,000/1 on the late Pope, John Paul II - a former goalkeeper - being the next signing by Glasgow Rangers (they subsequently announced that they had refunded all bets when the Pope broke his leg while taking a shower). Bus shelters advertising this bet were smashed but, unperturbed, in 2010 they put a stall outside the Vatican, when bishops were deciding the next Pope, offering odds on the candidates.

A TV advertising campaign which showed a blind footballer kicking a cat into a tree and the commentary: "Paddy Power can't get Tiddles back, there's nothing we can do about that. But we can get you your money back with our money-back specials." This was the most complained about UK advert of 2010, although the Advertising Standards Authority did not censure the ad, saying it was "surreal and light-hearted".

Another TV ad depicting four wheelchair bound men "doing a runner" from a curry house - this advert was banned as it was "likely to cause widespread offence", but got exposure after they posted it on YouTube.

Getting a Tongan player to change his name to Paddy Power by deed poll during the 2007 Rugby World Cup, then dying the hair of the entire Tonga team green before their match with England (the IRB stamped down and the dye was removed before the game).

Offering a market on the first species to be driven to extinction by the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Their press release, entitled "Ridley Turtle Tipped For Oily Exit", read:

"(24 May 2010, Dublin) As the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico enters its second month with little or no sign of abating, leading betting outfit Paddy Power are taking bets on the first species to become extinct as a direct result of the spill. Top of the bookies list at odds of 4/5 is the already critically endangered Kemp’s Ridley Turtle. In what must be considered spectacularly bad luck, this particular species of turtle migrates to the Gulf of Mexico at this exact time of year. The Bluefin Tuna which recently failed to make UN’s list of protected fish is the 6/4 second-favourite followed by the Leatherback Sea Turtle and Brown Pelicans, both at odds of 8/1."

They have also offered odds on the decline in the population of world-wide Polar Bears and on U.S. President Barack Obama not finishing his first term - widely interpreted as odds on his assassination.

Erecting a 50 foot tall promotional sign ("the world’s biggest Hollywood style sign") on the hillside overlooking Cheltenham racecourse during the 2010 Cheltenham Festival - to the annoyance of racecourse officials and their bookmaker rivals who secured all the Festival race sponsorship, but comparatively little publicity. Channel 4 were also displeased, as their refusal to give free advertising to Paddy Power precluded them from broadcasting sweeping, panoramic vistas of Prestbury Park in their Cheltenham coverage (the sign was removed after the Festival, with the local council threatening proceedings because the sign did not have planning permission).

Later that year they erected the sign again - next to Celtic Manor golf course before the Ryder Cup. This time they lost a court case brought to fight an injunction issued by the local council and the sign was removed, with Paddy Power saying: "We are clearly the victims of bureaucratic bullies and rich golf course owners but we will respect the verdict of the court. I guess it's a textbook case of - we fought the law and the law won". Celtic Manor Resort owner Sir Terry Matthews was furious at the way Paddy Power tried to deflect attention away from the official sponsors: "It's just disgraceful that genuine backers of the event can be usurped in such a fashion", but the Irish bookies were unrepentant, offering odds on where the sign would appear next - including 50/1 on "Terry Matthews' back garden".

In March 2010, Paddy Power ‘revealed’ that Tiger Woods, then suffering the fallout from revelations of extra-marital affairs - with a number of sponsors ending their links with him - had turned down a $75 million (£50m) five-year sponsorship offer from them. More recently, they were ‘rumoured’ to be putting together a sponsorship proposal for Wayne Rooney after similar negative publicity. Paddy Power said: "No direct formal negotiations have been made, but there is an appetite for it at this end" - no doubt their motives being association to a big news story rather than a new strategy in brand development.

A month later they paid £10,000 to have the Paddy Power name on a new confessional box in a church in Newmarket. The box has green curtains branded in the corporate logo of the bookmaker and the words ‘Sin Bin’ on the outside.

Paddy Power said "It's a great fit and perhaps over time confessing your sins in a Paddy Power confession box will become a tradition for race-goers."

As part of a 'Bring the Noise’ marketing campaign to increase brand awareness and appeal, Paddy Power branded a burger van and handed out thousands of free burgers at various football matches. At Wembley before a Euro qualifier against Russia, the Paddy Power crew even hosted the 'Great Burger Off' eating competition between Paddy Power and ex-footballer Mickey (The Meat) Quinn, to see how many burgers they could eat in 1 minute (Mickey lost out to Paddy by a single burger).

Paddy Power also secured national broadcast, print and online coverage with their tongue-in-cheek ‘Horseracing 2.0’ project, outlining proposals to revolutionise horse racing for both jockeys and punters. Their vision acknowledged that many sports have benefited from technological innovations to make athletes perform at the pinnacle of their ability, but felt that horse racing was slightly behind the times and they worked with champion jockey AP McCoy in creating skin-tight, aerodynamic ‘silks of the future’ and on-board cameras.

Needless to say, Paddy Power will offer odds on anything and are even happy to create their own 'events' to gain publicity. For example, in 2008 they put ten eggs in an incubator with a camera ('Eggycam') and let people bet on which would hatch first. The world’s press picked up the story one week in to eggycam and the story featured across the globe with thousands going online to watch four little chickens hatch out of their eggs - of course Paddy Power dressed up as a chicken to publicise the stunt (in case you wondered whether he had any shame left).

In January 2012 Paddy Power were labelled "socially irresponsible" by the UK Advertising Standards Authority after running an advertisement featuring Liverpool football Luis Suarez, on the basis that Suarez was 24 years old when, under its regulations, gambling adverts should not feature anybody under 25 "gambling or playing a significant role".

The very next month, a Paddy Power TV advert featuring 'transgendered ladies' at the Cheltenham Festival was taken off the air after complaints. The ad invited viewers to spot the "stallions" from the "mares", whilst a subsequent ad showed 'chavs' being shot with a tranquiliser gun at the Festival.

Social media activity was at the heart of this latest marketing marketing campaign. ‘We hear you’ is the strapline for all their recent advertising and they use this interaction with customers to inspire campaigns. For example, the 'chav tranquilliser' ad was inspired by someone complaining about the louts at the races on their facebook page (which has towards 300,000 'likes').

Love them or loathe them for their shameless self-promotion, guerilla marketing tactics and sometimes insensitive / borderline inflammatory approach, Paddy Power are a bookie whose dogged refusal to conform enables them to stand out from the pack. Whilst, from a branding perspective, they attempt to be perceived as a 'lovable rogue' rather than being seen to be offensive, a nuisance or reckless, there is no doubt that they revel in the in the notoriety they have acquired. Their simple vision is that interacting with Paddy Power should be entertaining, fun and fair.
Report dr . atkins January 13, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
thats been helpfull donny osmond
Report TexassportsagentBuzz January 13, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
Ive heard of this with other  bookies but usually not PP, They even paid me a 50 euro acca for 632 and it didn't even win, I got 5/6 correct
Report donny osmond January 13, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
found it the other day when some lad was going for a job interview, the last sentence doesnt seem to match what they've done to the lad that had the bet


how on earth can they take somebodies money and then ban him

shirley their softwear filters these things before the bet is accepted ???
Report Biscuit1979 January 13, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
Donny - you missed out Nicklas Bendtner's pants during the Euro's
Report naz1 January 13, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
they have said to me 3 minutes after i placed the bet they cancelled it and closed my account, but i asked them why they have not informed me of this they had my phone number and email details
Report homefortea January 13, 2013 4:00 PM GMT
You think that is bad.

A few years back they advertised for a Head Of PR and took on big Mary O'Keefe from Letterkenny. Then at Board Level it was decided that they needed a frontman to push the Company forward globally with an instantly recognisable name.Poor Mary was forced to undergo gender reassignment surgery and attend a PR course in Stoke On Trent.

Step forward Mr Paddy Power.
Report naz1 January 13, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
never bet on paddy power
Report TRFC Kev January 13, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
Similar story.

I had my VC account closed down a couple of years ago.

Last year I wanted a (bit of a) obscure Ante Post bet, and VC were by far the best price @ 40/1.

I tried my luck opening a new account, which worked, and I duly placed a £10 bet @ 40/1.

A couple of weeks later when I tried to access my account to place another bet I found it had been closed down.
No notice, no acknowledgement that I have an outstanding bet, just "account closed"


The ante post bet has drifted a wee bit, and will probably not win, but I would like to know where I stand as to whether they will pay me out should it win, or whether I should contact them nearer the the end of my bet, knowing I'm not going to win to ask for my money back.
Report TexassportsagentBuzz January 13, 2013 4:44 PM GMT

Jan 13, 2013 -- 4:41PM, TRFC Kev wrote:


Similar story.I had my VC account closed down a couple of years ago.Last year I wanted a (bit of a) obscure Ante Post bet, and VC were by far the best price @ 40/1.I tried my luck opening a new account, which worked, and I duly placed a £10 bet @ 40/1.A couple of weeks later when I tried to access my account to place another bet I found it had been closed down.No notice, no acknowledgement that I have an outstanding bet, just "account closed"The ante post bet has drifted a wee bit, and will probably not win, but I would like to know where I stand as to whether they will pay me out should it win, or whether I should contact them nearer the the end of my bet, knowing I'm not going to win to ask for my money back.


You should definitely find out asap

Report naz1 January 13, 2013 4:56 PM GMT
i never even knew you could close a account permentley
Report elisjohn January 13, 2013 4:56 PM GMT
true, had an acct with them when love divine won the oaks, acct was in my partners name as i had no bank acct at the time, no problem few losing bets of around 200 quid they were happy to accept then i get lucky a tenner treble all win 400 quid returns, then they only paid out in a cheque when requested , i asked for it to be sent out they refused saying the acct wasnt in my name so they would close the acct and not pay the winnings.
Report Biscuit1979 January 13, 2013 5:54 PM GMT
naz1 13 Jan 13 15:42 
i never had an account with them to my knowledge but there saying all details are the same and previously i have asked it to be permentenly closed so not allowed another account




If what you say is true and you've never had an account with them surely you can take this further and let IBAS know.

Surely then Paddy's would have to produce evidence that you'd had an account with them before?
Report HowieTheRookie. January 13, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
I don't know any official statistics but I would guess paddies have more 'Palpable Errors' than any other bookie.
Report Colonel Trautman January 13, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
TBF i won £1132 on the horses when i first opened an account and when i withdrew my winnings they paid me twice,so it evens itself out over time..
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