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08 Dec 12
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All those years of bias and denial. Finally the truth.
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Diddy teams will be beside themselves next August.
Welcome home indeed mac.
When the history books are written, how will he be portrayed?
The man who killed off rangers would be appropriate, though the ex fans of course won't understand, as they bought into his lucrative spending.
As recently as 2010, they could still have been saved, they had player assets they could have sold, kept them afloat, but no, 'Walter' couldn't face up to batting on a level playing field.
He had to keep spending, which eventually killed rangers.
When the history books are written, how will he be portrayed?
The man who killed off rangers would be appropriate, though the ex fans of course won't understand, as they bought into his lucrative spending.
As recently as 2010, they could still have been saved, they had player assets they could have sold, kept them afloat, but no, 'Walter' couldn't face up to batting on a level playing field.
He had to keep spending, which eventually killed rangers.
So they'll be making a charitable donation to the local newsagent for the money he's owed 
And the other £65,000,000+ of unpaid debt
And the other £65,000,000+ of unpaid debt
According to a poster on here the paper shop has been paid.
Where are you getting the 65m from is that from the tax liability that went against hmrc?
Where are you getting the 65m from is that from the tax liability that went against hmrc?
A poster on here said the corner shopkeeper has been paid Oh well my apologies then, if somebody on here said that, then it must be true 
The £65,000,000+ is EXCLUDING the so called "big tax case!"
Oh well my apologies then, if somebody on here said that, then it must be true The £65,000,000+ is EXCLUDING the so called "big tax case!"
Can chuckles green do anything more to make them more hated ?
The_E_Dead_Group 08 Dec 12 18:58
There was one (and it was only one) where he spoke a bit of sense. He said something along the lines of "The reach of the old firm is long so let's be honest. It's only common sense that some refs will have been Rangers supporters as boys and will occasionally give a decision that will help their team out". At this point I had collapsed on the floor thinking at long last one of these balloons was going to tell it the way it is but then I read on. "But equally" he added "does that not apply to those who supported Celtic as boys?". No mention of the fact the officials are appointed by and answerable to a shower of masonic/orange/hun kvnts and that the number of Rangers supporting officials massively outweighs the number of Celtic supporting officials or that the latter can only get on in the job if they toe the SFA/hun line.
so if rangers were playing in the lower than scottish 3rd division oirish league the papal referees would be fairer than fair,
away and get buggered by yer priest ya daftie
There was one (and it was only one) where he spoke a bit of sense. He said something along the lines of "The reach of the old firm is long so let's be honest. It's only common sense that some refs will have been Rangers supporters as boys and will occasionally give a decision that will help their team out". At this point I had collapsed on the floor thinking at long last one of these balloons was going to tell it the way it is but then I read on. "But equally" he added "does that not apply to those who supported Celtic as boys?". No mention of the fact the officials are appointed by and answerable to a shower of masonic/orange/hun kvnts and that the number of Rangers supporting officials massively outweighs the number of Celtic supporting officials or that the latter can only get on in the job if they toe the SFA/hun line.
so if rangers were playing in the lower than scottish 3rd division oirish league the papal referees would be fairer than fair,
away and get buggered by yer priest ya daftie
It was travelrug that said the paper shop had been paid.
Has the guy who made a trophy for a presentation to an ex rangers player been paid?
Charlie Green eager to get some Man City fans on board, as they
clearly have money to throw about
clearly have money to throw about
Charles says we have no debts unlike some of your clubs who are are running way beyond your means. You should take a leaf out of the rangers books on how a club should be run properly.
A very charitable organisation which will prosper due to fiscal diligence.
A very charitable organisation which will prosper due to fiscal diligence.
85% of the poulation of scotland at the last census were not roman catholic , are you extolling preferential discrimination in the refereeing profession?
mac - Geeza brek, you're at it
Of course you'll have no debt if you run away from it
Of course you'll have no debt if you run away from it
how did celtic do on wed against the superior overpriced russians mac
"so if rangers were playing in the lower than scottish 3rd division oirish league the papal referees would be fairer than fair,"
flushgordon, where did I suggest that? If anything I suggested the opposite. I admitted earlier on this thread if I was a ref I'd give 50:50 decisions the way that suited Celtic. I think most Celtic & Rangers fans would admit the same. Once you accept that then you're left with two possibilities. 1) The masonic / orange / hun refs committee and their hun dominated officials who are answerable to them are biased towards Rangers & against Celtic or 2) you believe that so called professional people are above such trivia and therefore bias exists only in the mind of the paranoid.
If you plump for 2 then you're the sort of rsole who thinks the financial sector is populated by honest men, the video of Donald Findlay singing the billy boys is fake and James Traynor's conversion to the hun cause is the result of a recent road to Damascus vision.
flushgordon, where did I suggest that? If anything I suggested the opposite. I admitted earlier on this thread if I was a ref I'd give 50:50 decisions the way that suited Celtic. I think most Celtic & Rangers fans would admit the same. Once you accept that then you're left with two possibilities. 1) The masonic / orange / hun refs committee and their hun dominated officials who are answerable to them are biased towards Rangers & against Celtic or 2) you believe that so called professional people are above such trivia and therefore bias exists only in the mind of the paranoid.
If you plump for 2 then you're the sort of rsole who thinks the financial sector is populated by honest men, the video of Donald Findlay singing the billy boys is fake and James Traynor's conversion to the hun cause is the result of a recent road to Damascus vision.
No need to worry about "The masonic / orange / hun refs committee" for a while now Feck.
Actually using the term "masonic / orange" is so daft in itself, it's like saying Jews / communists are to blame for everything, a la Herr Hitler. By the way, he also blamed masons, so you're in kinda bad company.
Actually using the term "masonic / orange" is so daft in itself, it's like saying Jews / communists are to blame for everything, a la Herr Hitler. By the way, he also blamed masons, so you're in kinda bad company.
Actually using the term "masonic / orange" is so daft in itself,
But not as daft as "masonic / socialist", eh Brother / Comrade Alias
But not as daft as "masonic / socialist", eh Brother / Comrade Alias
im watching local hero on film 4, cant be at your beck and call all night.
the tic did us scots proud would be my answer to your question.
back to the film.
the tic did us scots proud would be my answer to your question.
back to the film.
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Newsquest (Herald & Times £1,500
Nexo S.A., France £1,799.37
Nicola Young, Glasgow £3,500
Noble Grossart, Edinburgh £18,612
Nordic Scouting, Oslo £20,000
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OHSS, Edinburgh £234
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Ooyala, California £733.92
Opal Telecom £169.72
Orebro SK £150,000
Oxford Hotels & Inns (Carnoustie) £3,709.96
PR Newswire Europe £300
PTS – Plumbing Trade Supplies, Leicester £30.42
Paramed, Howwood £1,050
Parklands Country Club, Glasgow £500
Parks of Hamilton £7,256
Paton Plant, York £1,450.16
Perform Group, Middlesex £346,097.43
Pineapple Aroundshot, Co Durham £2,316.96
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Ping Network Solutions, Glasgow £4,020.25
Plum Films, Edinburgh £3,000
Posh Deli, Glasgow £260
Postage by Phone, Essex £510.80
Premier Cash Registers, Glasgow £12,600
Prime Commercial Properties
Management, London £10,805.53
Professional Pre-Season Tours (Libero), Glasgow £60,000
Quick Shift Tyre Service, Glasgow £48
R.F.Brown, Hamilton £1,681.44
RBS WorldPay, Cambridge £180.66
RS Components Limited, Northants £204.95
Rangers Lotteries Ltd, Glasgow £105.80
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Renfrewshire Council HQ £108
Restore Scotland, Paisley £579.74
Rigby Taylor Limited, Bolton £10,762.16
Rodgers Sercurity Systems, Glasgow £342.50
Ross Hall Hospital, Glasgow £770.50
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Royal Mail £3,262.54
SDL Group, Glasgow £1,350
SG World, Cheshire £577.56
SIR Teknologi, West Sussex £TBC
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STRI, West Yorkshire £17.28
Saffery Champness, Glasgow £31,028.01
Scot-West Business Forms, Glasgow £749.60
Scotprint, Haddington £7,514
Scotrae Productions, Greenock £17,058.94
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But not as daft as "masonic / socialist", eh Brother / Comrade Alias
That's only daft to the unenlightened Feck.
Do you enjoy the embittered stance you share with Herr Hitler and his NSDAP chums, Feck? "It's all their fault, it's the international conspiracy of Jews, commumists and Freemasons." I can just see your eyes light up Feck.
Your problem is Feck, that "masonic/socialist" is nearer the truth than you want to believe.
That's only daft to the unenlightened Feck.
Do you enjoy the embittered stance you share with Herr Hitler and his NSDAP chums, Feck? "It's all their fault, it's the international conspiracy of Jews, commumists and Freemasons." I can just see your eyes light up Feck.
Your problem is Feck, that "masonic/socialist" is nearer the truth than you want to believe.
Personally i think Celtic needs Rangers and vice versa.
They are both cheeks of the same a$$.
They are both cheeks of the same a$$.
dunno if news agent has been paid or not can ask next time I'm in they do top veggie samosas on a friday :)
Do you also consider the mafia to be a socialist group Alias? Socialism is about a fair deal for all, not just those who know the secret handshake. Your Hitler comment is pathetic. It wouldn't be hard to find a common dislike between any two people.
Blame anybody but yourself for your own problems and shortcomings. That's what you have in common with the Nazis, Feck, all of them. Jews, communists, freemasons, the big conspiracy. You like conspiracies, don't you Feck?
Logic is not the same thing as conspiracy Alias. Why have you never attempted to answer the question "why would there not be a bias?". Not that you're alone in that respect.
Why don't you answer the question "do you like conspiracies Feck?"
Why always find someone else to blame, like Freemasons, Feck, just like Hitler did? How about Jews and communists, Feck?
Why always find someone else to blame, like Freemasons, Feck, just like Hitler did? How about Jews and communists, Feck?
i smelt a rat there because he used to always slag the vermin then all of a sudden hes on side, i hope like everyone conected with sevco they die like oldco
Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Maybe he just couldn't. Maybe he IS an Airdrie supporter. It could be worse if he'd claimed to be a Celtic fan, like Mo Johnston.
Your posts have taken on a "I've been shafted by Feck again" nature Alias. Why would I blame
Jews or communists? Are you claiming the SFA are riddled with Jews and communists?
I call it the way I see it, I describe the logic behind the way I see it and invite others to break apart that logic. The fact no one (including yourself) attempts to do so says much.
Jews or communists? Are you claiming the SFA are riddled with Jews and communists?
I call it the way I see it, I describe the logic behind the way I see it and invite others to break apart that logic. The fact no one (including yourself) attempts to do so says much.
I call it the way I see it,
You sure do.
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As I indicated before, the term you use "masonic/orange" demonstrates ignorance of facts. It's sign of a belief, a mistaken one, in your mind. Similarly, a prerequisite for a Nazi was hatred of Jews, communists and Freemasons. In both instances the conviction is that the object(s) of hatred are the root of your problems. You're in bad company Feck.
You sure do.
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As I indicated before, the term you use "masonic/orange" demonstrates ignorance of facts. It's sign of a belief, a mistaken one, in your mind. Similarly, a prerequisite for a Nazi was hatred of Jews, communists and Freemasons. In both instances the conviction is that the object(s) of hatred are the root of your problems. You're in bad company Feck.
Alias your wasting your time,I learned to stay out of these debates on here.
13/06/12 - DAILY RECORD - “They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch.” (Jim Traynor)
http://www.dailyreco...be-able-1129166
Over to you Traynor.
http://www.dailyreco...be-able-1129166
Over to you Traynor.
I love how jim traynor or jabba as he is called by certain individuals say this man was a terrible journalist who dined on succulant lamb etc. HOWEVER when it comes to quotes about rangers, all of a sudden they become truth to them and MUST be true.
celtic fans, a pathetic bunch really.
celtic fans, a pathetic bunch really.
I love how jim traynor or jabba as he is called by certain individuals say this man was a terrible journalist who dined on succulant lamb etc. HOWEVER when it comes to quotes about rangers, all of a sudden they become truth to them and MUST be true.
celtic fans, a pathetic bunch really.
celtic fans, a pathetic bunch really.
whatnot86
Two points for you.
1/ I aint a Celtic fan.
2/This was written by Traynor in the Daily Record so are you saying he was lying then?
Two points for you.
1/ I aint a Celtic fan.
2/This was written by Traynor in the Daily Record so are you saying he was lying then?
As I indicated before, the term you use "masonic/orange" demonstrates ignorance of facts. It's sign of a belief, a mistaken one, in your mind. Similarly, a prerequisite for a Nazi was hatred of Jews, communists and Freemasons. In both instances the conviction is that the object(s) of hatred are the root of your problems. You're in bad company Feck.
Do masons make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do orangemen make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do Sevco / oldco supporters make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do haters of Catholicism make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
This is the root of the problem imo Alias and me saying there is/was a bias is more akin to a Jew saying the nazis were biased against them than the way you're attempting to twist it.
Do masons make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do orangemen make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do Sevco / oldco supporters make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do haters of Catholicism make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
This is the root of the problem imo Alias and me saying there is/was a bias is more akin to a Jew saying the nazis were biased against them than the way you're attempting to twist it.
FECK - Are all Celtic supporters catholic?
Must be me but i never think of anybodys religion when i meet them.
Must be me but i never think of anybodys religion when i meet them.
We have tic fans in our lodge.
The high school I attended would have been around 50/50 split gers/tic allegiance from those that did`nt support a local side.
Both mainly protestant establishments 90/10 percentage wise Id say.
Makes you wonder who has the problem?
The high school I attended would have been around 50/50 split gers/tic allegiance from those that did`nt support a local side.
Both mainly protestant establishments 90/10 percentage wise Id say.
Makes you wonder who has the problem?
I think its Weegieland that has a problem.
Just an embarrasment to the rest of Scotland really.
Just an embarrasment to the rest of Scotland really.
Reading through some of the old debates on here you are probably correct Shuda, the west of Scotland & the Irish mainland have had it the worst & most suffering.
Im on 4 days break now Shuda finished up this morning.
Picked out 3 from today`s cards last night first 2 won already, what do you make of McCoy`s mount in the Font 2.40?
Picked out 3 from today`s cards last night first 2 won already, what do you make of McCoy`s mount in the Font 2.40?
Ive traded out the win with the last one & gone place only just below 1.70 fontwell 2.40
bit concerned with the drift.
bit concerned with the drift.
Do masons make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do orangemen make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do Sevco / oldco supporters make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do haters of Catholicism make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
As long as it's iyo, that makes it true then? You've just admitted what I've said all along - it's all in your mind. In reality, you have no feckin idea who's who or what in the SFA, any more than the next man.
First they came for the communists...... Bad company Feck.
Do orangemen make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do Sevco / oldco supporters make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
Do haters of Catholicism make up a disproportionate number within the SFA? Yes imo.
As long as it's iyo, that makes it true then? You've just admitted what I've said all along - it's all in your mind. In reality, you have no feckin idea who's who or what in the SFA, any more than the next man.
First they came for the communists...... Bad company Feck.
We have tic fans in our lodge.
He'll never believe it, mac. No chance.
He'll never believe it, mac. No chance.
Feck has no reason to doubt me alias.
We both have a wee idea what the other has gone through.
Feck & many like him may have suffered at the hands of my kind.
Which is uncomfortable for me & no nice.
We both have a wee idea what the other has gone through.
Feck & many like him may have suffered at the hands of my kind.
Which is uncomfortable for me & no nice.
The Witch-Hunt That Shamed Scotland
By Alex Mooney
A remarkable thing happened in Scotland over the past year. It was, however, nothing we can be proud of. I am referring, of course, to the Rangers crisis. However, this wasn't at any stage about the beautiful game or sporting integrity. The witch-hunt against the Ibrox club was driven by a rancid cocktail of festering hatred and revenge. The EBT issue was only a smokescreen for the embittered and delusional to unload decades of simmering rage on the 'establishment club' and cunningly dress it up as a moral crusade to attract others.
Tax avoidance schemes - like EBTs - are rife in the UK where global brands, wealthy individuals, politicians, celebs - even football clubs - seek to reduce their revenue payments. Legal? Yes. Decent? No. But capitalism is an immoral beast and the law of the jungle frequently applies. Singling out Rangers was simply a device, albeit clever and highly successful, for those who despise the club to promote a nasty and divisive agenda.
Celtic's billionaire owner Dermot Desmond is widely known for paying pitifully low amounts of tax in Ireland. Indeed there was an almighty brouhaha on this in the Irish press earlier in the year. Yet there was no mention of this on Celtic blogs or anyone suggesting the Parkhead side should refuse his shilling. Nor should they. In a capitalist world you play by its rules - but let's not have double standards.
Rangers' perilous position and the contrived crisis in Scottish football were ramped up on the blogosphere where pernicious propaganda thrived. The Rangers Tax Case blog - where censorship was rife - spread its sporting integrity mantra to other club sites where a dim-witted and spiteful active minority had undue influence on their fellow fans and club officials.
In this regard, it was successful. A witch-hunt began and the spirit of Salem and McCarthyism spread like a plague throughout Scottish football.
No-one who dared to present a counter-argument was safe from the character assassination on the RTC blog. Rangers were cheats, financial dopers, had stolen every trophy they'd won in a decade and disgraced the nation. Campbell Ogilvie, Ally McCoist, Walter Smith, David Murray, John Greig, Sandy Jardine, directors and staff, players and agents were up to their ears in malfeasance. It was all a Protestant conspiracy.
One of its 'finest' moments was the demand for Rangers to apologise for their years of 'cheating' - but simply saying sorry wasn't enough. Nothing less than a Truth and Reconciliation Commission was required where the guilty would not just be publicly humiliated but also had to show true contrition. This was necessary, apparently, so their sins could be translated into a positive commitment to building a better society. The modern equivalent of Salem's burning at the stake. The level of delusion, conspiracy theories and bitterness was breathtaking.
Even more breathtaking was how people who should have known better fell under its spell. Stuart Cosgrove pompously insisted there had been an 'epistemological break' in Scottish football thanks in some part to the blog and was happy to name-check it on air.
The blog was good at this of course. Unlike some Old Firm sites where posters are barely literate, RTC had a litany of ageing wannabe John Pilgers adept at verbosely pointing out they only wanted a fair playing field for everyone. The cheats had to be exposed. It was nothing personal. Until anyone who dissented on even a minor point was branded a Rangers troll then mercilessly attacked and banned.
Only the truly troubled could depict themselves as standing up for freedom of speech in this brave new world of people journalism while imposing such self-serving censorship.
The mainstream media too were guilty as sin and running scared from the 'new media'. Some of them, said the bloggers, were also on EBTs from Rangers to keep quiet about a scandal that would be as big as Watergate.
As a former sub-editor on many of Scotland's news and sports desks - broadsheets, mid-markets, tabloids – I have been at the heart of the beast and can tell you there is no bias towards either of the Old Firm clubs. In the country's heartland, the west of Scotland, it would be commercial suicide for any title to favour one club over the other. Think about it. Despite this, football hacks have had to endure wicked taunts and worse from both sets of fans for decades.
Then there was Cosgrove's colleague at Channel four - reporter Alex Thomson - who became the pin-up boy of the Rangers-haters. He arrived with a bang in a flurry of righteous indignation - no doubt fantasising that he would become the new Pilger when he exposed the massive cover-up in Jocko-land.
Like RTC, Thomson also liked to censor comments on his C4 blog. Censorship, in fact, was a disturbing aspect of this 'new media'. Incredibly, at the height of the witch-hunt, the RTC blog won the Orwell prize. When I found out it was shortlisted I wrote to the panel judges:
‘Far from being a fresh and exciting site where informed comment and excellent writing can shine - which your prize rightly rewards - RTC is the opposite. Proclaiming itself to be exposing a craven media in Scotland, this blog refuses to allow anyone who fails to toe its all pervasive anti-Rangers sectarian party line from being heard. That's not free speech. That's sinister. And precisely what Eric Blair exposed so brilliantly in 1984.
The failure to preserve free speech will be this blog's lasting legacy. Along with the cult of the personality that's been nurtured by RTC to sycophantic posters hanging on his every word. Far from democratising information distribution, it does the opposite.’
There was no reply. Fearing the worst, I was not surprised when it won the award. And guess who wrote the commendation - Thomson. The great man of letters must be fuming in his grave at this bitterest of ironies. An Orwellian award for a blog that used censorship so frequently that even Big Brother would have been impressed?
Clearly, there was a cabal within the media working against Rangers. The Guardian gave RTC a platform to write a piece on the 'new media phenomenon'.
On his blog that night one of his admiring posters wrote, ‘RTC , I am blown away by your Guardian piece. This will be discussed for decades in the same breath as Archer and McIlvaney, in terms of its accuracy, relevance and sheer poetic beauty.’
Another posted, ‘I think you have just produced a seminal 'j'accuse' article. This blog would be worthy of a Pulitzer prize. I salute you...’
The scale of the delusion and sycophancy was frightening and I feared a new cult had been born.
There is no doubt though that the blog was a phenomenon thanks to the leaks of secret documents from the tax case which made it compulsive reading. If the site had been moderated properly - denying the haters and conspiracy theorists access to spout their drivel - then it would indeed have deserved an award. But the blog at heart was a hanging judge.
For anyone coming new to this it would be illuminating if you could go on the site and read it. Unfortunately, all the blogs and comments disappeared within hours of the tax tribunal finding in Rangers' favour.
Sadly though, RTC spawned a bastard child. The campaign against Rangers continues on Scottish Football Monitor - Asking the Questions the Media Won't Ask. There you will find no admission from the internet bampots - as Hugh Keevins christened them - that they were wrong. Far less an apology. Rangers got away with it because two of the tribunal members were got at, some of its posters implied.
Now the blog is regrouping to ensure Rangers' titles are stripped and a recruitment drive is on to attract fans from other clubs to their latest cause celebre. The 'pious pap of cyberspace's sanctimonious nonentities' (copyright Jim Traynor) continues. With Cosgrove on board again to lend his support.
The Channel 4 executive is a stout defender of social media and people journalism. Me too. If it's done responsibly. But sites that distance themselves from the hate-filled football forums then peddle a divisive agenda in articulate tones do more to harm this new medium's credibility than the mainstream media ever will.
But where does this vitriol come from? Why does it seem that some Celtic fans hate Rangers more than they love the Hoops? There is a significant band of them - in their later years, I suspect - who still harbour grudges and will take their bitterness to the grave. They view Rangers as having a deeply anti-Catholic history that cheats all other clubs in Scotland thanks to a network of Masonic and Orange lodges working on its behalf. That controls the ruling bodies, referees and the media. So it must die. In seeking this objective, therefore, the gloves are off and any tactic to achieve this is deemed acceptable.
I am not a Rangers fan and never dreamed I would ever be defending them. In fact, I grew up as a Celtic supporter but walked away when I realised the hatred among some fans of both clubs was unacceptable. One was as bad as the other. When I say hatred I do not mean robust rivalry, banter or sarcastic humour - which is fine - but naked hatred.
Some people, I'm afraid, cling to their heart of darkness and run a mile from forgiveness. Rangers do indeed have a troubled history. They had an anti-Catholic policy, up until the Souness era, that was wrong. But credit where it's due. They saw the error of their ways and changed. They have had players of almost every colour and creed since then, including a substantial Catholic contingent, so we should welcome that, even embrace it. And move on.
Let us also not forget that the world now is remarkably different from what it was just 30 or 40 years ago when racism, sexism and religious intolerance were rife and even accepted as normal in many 'developed' cultures; when minorities were routinely treated as second-class citizens.
But when times started changing for the better and Catholics became a major part of the Scottish establishment, many Hoops fans of a certain vintage didn't like this new power. It seemed they preferred being the downtrodden - rebels without a cause.
The internet and Rangers' woes combined to provoke these ageing keyboard warriors into venting their bitterness. Unfortunately, club chairmen, football's ruling bodies, pundits and the usual suspects were also sucked in.
Now we are left to pick up the pieces. Thanks to Craig Whyte's era at Rangers, the club is now in the bottom tier of Scottish football. His reign was indefensible and he damaged Rangers single-handedly. And let's not forget all its creditors who were treated abysmally. The club has paid for that with fines, a Euro ban, relegation, points deduction, transfer embargo and other potential sanctions.
But the blood-letting must stop now - and talk of stripping titles is absurd. If any bureaucratic rules were broken then let there be a suitable punishment - no more, no less. Do you think that any Celtic player, in the heat of an Old Firm battle, thought he was being cheated because the man marking him was on a better deal?
Medals won by Rangers players belong to them for their achievements on the field. It is preposterous to say a player cheated because of the way his employer chose to pay him. So let's have no more talk about stripping titles - and start building bridges.
That won't be easy. Rangers and their fans are hurting. But Charles Green could show a lot of class by making the first moves to herald a new era in Scottish football. There is a wonderful opportunity now for the club to take a lead in repairing broken relationships.
Celtic and Rangers must never again feed off the bigots or placate them for commercial reasons. Big clubs - really big clubs - don't need to do that. When rivalry turns to hatred, we're all losers.
We are about to enter a new year and the big resolution we should make is simple - let's all get involved in a massive effort to live in a truly inclusive country. As Barack Obama said: "If you can't make peace with your neighbours, you'll never make peace with yourself."
Alex Mooney is a freelance writer, copy editor and former journalist and publisher.
By Alex Mooney
A remarkable thing happened in Scotland over the past year. It was, however, nothing we can be proud of. I am referring, of course, to the Rangers crisis. However, this wasn't at any stage about the beautiful game or sporting integrity. The witch-hunt against the Ibrox club was driven by a rancid cocktail of festering hatred and revenge. The EBT issue was only a smokescreen for the embittered and delusional to unload decades of simmering rage on the 'establishment club' and cunningly dress it up as a moral crusade to attract others.
Tax avoidance schemes - like EBTs - are rife in the UK where global brands, wealthy individuals, politicians, celebs - even football clubs - seek to reduce their revenue payments. Legal? Yes. Decent? No. But capitalism is an immoral beast and the law of the jungle frequently applies. Singling out Rangers was simply a device, albeit clever and highly successful, for those who despise the club to promote a nasty and divisive agenda.
Celtic's billionaire owner Dermot Desmond is widely known for paying pitifully low amounts of tax in Ireland. Indeed there was an almighty brouhaha on this in the Irish press earlier in the year. Yet there was no mention of this on Celtic blogs or anyone suggesting the Parkhead side should refuse his shilling. Nor should they. In a capitalist world you play by its rules - but let's not have double standards.
Rangers' perilous position and the contrived crisis in Scottish football were ramped up on the blogosphere where pernicious propaganda thrived. The Rangers Tax Case blog - where censorship was rife - spread its sporting integrity mantra to other club sites where a dim-witted and spiteful active minority had undue influence on their fellow fans and club officials.
In this regard, it was successful. A witch-hunt began and the spirit of Salem and McCarthyism spread like a plague throughout Scottish football.
No-one who dared to present a counter-argument was safe from the character assassination on the RTC blog. Rangers were cheats, financial dopers, had stolen every trophy they'd won in a decade and disgraced the nation. Campbell Ogilvie, Ally McCoist, Walter Smith, David Murray, John Greig, Sandy Jardine, directors and staff, players and agents were up to their ears in malfeasance. It was all a Protestant conspiracy.
One of its 'finest' moments was the demand for Rangers to apologise for their years of 'cheating' - but simply saying sorry wasn't enough. Nothing less than a Truth and Reconciliation Commission was required where the guilty would not just be publicly humiliated but also had to show true contrition. This was necessary, apparently, so their sins could be translated into a positive commitment to building a better society. The modern equivalent of Salem's burning at the stake. The level of delusion, conspiracy theories and bitterness was breathtaking.
Even more breathtaking was how people who should have known better fell under its spell. Stuart Cosgrove pompously insisted there had been an 'epistemological break' in Scottish football thanks in some part to the blog and was happy to name-check it on air.
The blog was good at this of course. Unlike some Old Firm sites where posters are barely literate, RTC had a litany of ageing wannabe John Pilgers adept at verbosely pointing out they only wanted a fair playing field for everyone. The cheats had to be exposed. It was nothing personal. Until anyone who dissented on even a minor point was branded a Rangers troll then mercilessly attacked and banned.
Only the truly troubled could depict themselves as standing up for freedom of speech in this brave new world of people journalism while imposing such self-serving censorship.
The mainstream media too were guilty as sin and running scared from the 'new media'. Some of them, said the bloggers, were also on EBTs from Rangers to keep quiet about a scandal that would be as big as Watergate.
As a former sub-editor on many of Scotland's news and sports desks - broadsheets, mid-markets, tabloids – I have been at the heart of the beast and can tell you there is no bias towards either of the Old Firm clubs. In the country's heartland, the west of Scotland, it would be commercial suicide for any title to favour one club over the other. Think about it. Despite this, football hacks have had to endure wicked taunts and worse from both sets of fans for decades.
Then there was Cosgrove's colleague at Channel four - reporter Alex Thomson - who became the pin-up boy of the Rangers-haters. He arrived with a bang in a flurry of righteous indignation - no doubt fantasising that he would become the new Pilger when he exposed the massive cover-up in Jocko-land.
Like RTC, Thomson also liked to censor comments on his C4 blog. Censorship, in fact, was a disturbing aspect of this 'new media'. Incredibly, at the height of the witch-hunt, the RTC blog won the Orwell prize. When I found out it was shortlisted I wrote to the panel judges:
‘Far from being a fresh and exciting site where informed comment and excellent writing can shine - which your prize rightly rewards - RTC is the opposite. Proclaiming itself to be exposing a craven media in Scotland, this blog refuses to allow anyone who fails to toe its all pervasive anti-Rangers sectarian party line from being heard. That's not free speech. That's sinister. And precisely what Eric Blair exposed so brilliantly in 1984.
The failure to preserve free speech will be this blog's lasting legacy. Along with the cult of the personality that's been nurtured by RTC to sycophantic posters hanging on his every word. Far from democratising information distribution, it does the opposite.’
There was no reply. Fearing the worst, I was not surprised when it won the award. And guess who wrote the commendation - Thomson. The great man of letters must be fuming in his grave at this bitterest of ironies. An Orwellian award for a blog that used censorship so frequently that even Big Brother would have been impressed?
Clearly, there was a cabal within the media working against Rangers. The Guardian gave RTC a platform to write a piece on the 'new media phenomenon'.
On his blog that night one of his admiring posters wrote, ‘RTC , I am blown away by your Guardian piece. This will be discussed for decades in the same breath as Archer and McIlvaney, in terms of its accuracy, relevance and sheer poetic beauty.’
Another posted, ‘I think you have just produced a seminal 'j'accuse' article. This blog would be worthy of a Pulitzer prize. I salute you...’
The scale of the delusion and sycophancy was frightening and I feared a new cult had been born.
There is no doubt though that the blog was a phenomenon thanks to the leaks of secret documents from the tax case which made it compulsive reading. If the site had been moderated properly - denying the haters and conspiracy theorists access to spout their drivel - then it would indeed have deserved an award. But the blog at heart was a hanging judge.
For anyone coming new to this it would be illuminating if you could go on the site and read it. Unfortunately, all the blogs and comments disappeared within hours of the tax tribunal finding in Rangers' favour.
Sadly though, RTC spawned a bastard child. The campaign against Rangers continues on Scottish Football Monitor - Asking the Questions the Media Won't Ask. There you will find no admission from the internet bampots - as Hugh Keevins christened them - that they were wrong. Far less an apology. Rangers got away with it because two of the tribunal members were got at, some of its posters implied.
Now the blog is regrouping to ensure Rangers' titles are stripped and a recruitment drive is on to attract fans from other clubs to their latest cause celebre. The 'pious pap of cyberspace's sanctimonious nonentities' (copyright Jim Traynor) continues. With Cosgrove on board again to lend his support.
The Channel 4 executive is a stout defender of social media and people journalism. Me too. If it's done responsibly. But sites that distance themselves from the hate-filled football forums then peddle a divisive agenda in articulate tones do more to harm this new medium's credibility than the mainstream media ever will.
But where does this vitriol come from? Why does it seem that some Celtic fans hate Rangers more than they love the Hoops? There is a significant band of them - in their later years, I suspect - who still harbour grudges and will take their bitterness to the grave. They view Rangers as having a deeply anti-Catholic history that cheats all other clubs in Scotland thanks to a network of Masonic and Orange lodges working on its behalf. That controls the ruling bodies, referees and the media. So it must die. In seeking this objective, therefore, the gloves are off and any tactic to achieve this is deemed acceptable.
I am not a Rangers fan and never dreamed I would ever be defending them. In fact, I grew up as a Celtic supporter but walked away when I realised the hatred among some fans of both clubs was unacceptable. One was as bad as the other. When I say hatred I do not mean robust rivalry, banter or sarcastic humour - which is fine - but naked hatred.
Some people, I'm afraid, cling to their heart of darkness and run a mile from forgiveness. Rangers do indeed have a troubled history. They had an anti-Catholic policy, up until the Souness era, that was wrong. But credit where it's due. They saw the error of their ways and changed. They have had players of almost every colour and creed since then, including a substantial Catholic contingent, so we should welcome that, even embrace it. And move on.
Let us also not forget that the world now is remarkably different from what it was just 30 or 40 years ago when racism, sexism and religious intolerance were rife and even accepted as normal in many 'developed' cultures; when minorities were routinely treated as second-class citizens.
But when times started changing for the better and Catholics became a major part of the Scottish establishment, many Hoops fans of a certain vintage didn't like this new power. It seemed they preferred being the downtrodden - rebels without a cause.
The internet and Rangers' woes combined to provoke these ageing keyboard warriors into venting their bitterness. Unfortunately, club chairmen, football's ruling bodies, pundits and the usual suspects were also sucked in.
Now we are left to pick up the pieces. Thanks to Craig Whyte's era at Rangers, the club is now in the bottom tier of Scottish football. His reign was indefensible and he damaged Rangers single-handedly. And let's not forget all its creditors who were treated abysmally. The club has paid for that with fines, a Euro ban, relegation, points deduction, transfer embargo and other potential sanctions.
But the blood-letting must stop now - and talk of stripping titles is absurd. If any bureaucratic rules were broken then let there be a suitable punishment - no more, no less. Do you think that any Celtic player, in the heat of an Old Firm battle, thought he was being cheated because the man marking him was on a better deal?
Medals won by Rangers players belong to them for their achievements on the field. It is preposterous to say a player cheated because of the way his employer chose to pay him. So let's have no more talk about stripping titles - and start building bridges.
That won't be easy. Rangers and their fans are hurting. But Charles Green could show a lot of class by making the first moves to herald a new era in Scottish football. There is a wonderful opportunity now for the club to take a lead in repairing broken relationships.
Celtic and Rangers must never again feed off the bigots or placate them for commercial reasons. Big clubs - really big clubs - don't need to do that. When rivalry turns to hatred, we're all losers.
We are about to enter a new year and the big resolution we should make is simple - let's all get involved in a massive effort to live in a truly inclusive country. As Barack Obama said: "If you can't make peace with your neighbours, you'll never make peace with yourself."
Alex Mooney is a freelance writer, copy editor and former journalist and publisher.
As long as it's iyo, that makes it true then? You've just admitted what I've said all along - it's all in your mind. In reality, you have no feckin idea who's who or what in the SFA, any more than the next man.
The tory party are skvm imo. I can't prove they're skvm but if you think it follows it's all in my mind then you're out of yours.
First they came for the mickys - bad company Alias.
The tory party are skvm imo. I can't prove they're skvm but if you think it follows it's all in my mind then you're out of yours.
First they came for the mickys - bad company Alias.
Have a guess what paper Alex Mooney formerly worked for.
Couldn't make it up as they say
Couldn't make it up as they say
Wonder how Alex Mooney would feel if he had 20K on Celtic to win the SPL 2 seasons ago. Without the Croat (who they still haven't fully paid for) the SFA's Save-Our-Club committee might have found that particular league win beyond even their help.
The tory party are skvm imo. I can't prove they're skvm but if you think it follows it's all in my mind then you're out of yours.
Maybe I am, since I think they're skvm as well. Catch 22 anyone?
Maybe I am, since I think they're skvm as well. Catch 22 anyone?
MAC
Take FECK to your next lodge meeting.
Oh hang on its full of masons.
Take FECK to your next lodge meeting.
Oh hang on its full of masons.
Feck would mix well with us, genuine sorts always will.
I think I've said something like that to Feck before, mac (though it could've been someone else). He'd probably enjoy it and realise how daft his preconceived ideas are. Those ideas however, are probably too strong imo and would never allow him to consider seeking the light. 
Been listening to Radio Scotland for years and Traynor's never come across as a Rangers fan. Don't know where you get that idea.
Of course not,hes an Airdrie fan.
Chic Dung is a St.Mirren fan.
Chic Dung is a St.Mirren fan.
Was'nt it Rangers who put the boot into Airdrie and killed them off.
It was David Murray - Jim was so outraged he threatened to remove his tongue, but after Chic intimated he was willing to deputise he decided to keep it in position.
http://rangerstaxcase.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/succulent-lamb1.pdf
Charles Green on Scotland Tonight - Superb.
My apologies must be lost in the post!!!
My apologies must be lost in the post!!!
Mr Green didn't come over too well when he refered to the SFA cup tie with Dundee . He should be briefed by his new P.R. guru that the said tie was/is with Dundee United .
Charles Green lives in the World of cuckoo. I can't wait until the Rangers fans get sucked in more to this wee weasel and give him their cash. The KLOWN is deluded. One minute he says Sevco want to get back into the Champions League. 30 seconds later he states "Sevco will not be joining the SPL as long as he's in charge". Well Weasel how the fook are u going to be in the Champions League? By winning the SFL Div 3, 2 & 1
Also someone should ask the Yorkshire Weasel what happened to his deal with Addidas & the Dallas Cowboys? U couldn't make it up.
Also someone should ask the Yorkshire Weasel what happened to his deal with Addidas & the Dallas Cowboys? U couldn't make it up.
Kriskin are you really hoping we as gers fans get shafted again?
You are better than that.
A weak Rangers does nothing for Scottish football, the only people who want to see us deed or weakened are bitter sorts which is something you are not.
Charles Green is the only guy that stepped up to the plate when we were down so we have to give the man our support.
Wee Fergus was`nt liked by all tic men, once he was finished though he took his cut & left the club in a better position.
You are better than that.
A weak Rangers does nothing for Scottish football, the only people who want to see us deed or weakened are bitter sorts which is something you are not.
Charles Green is the only guy that stepped up to the plate when we were down so we have to give the man our support.
Wee Fergus was`nt liked by all tic men, once he was finished though he took his cut & left the club in a better position.
Btw in answer to your other point, Charles Green knows the top league in Scotland will likely be re-named (wont be SPL) by the time Rangers manage to get back there so he is no that daft m8.
We go by the man himself, no spellin mistakes?
"We"?
mac, a common error is to call PRINCES St (that's plural of PRINCE) Princess St. That's not a spelling mistake.
"We"?
mac, a common error is to call PRINCES St (that's plural of PRINCE) Princess St. That's not a spelling mistake.
Alias, you chased me on 2 different threads(what)to point that out?
mac the only people that want to see you in a total state is the rest of Scottish football. Why the hell would we not want to see 1 of the big 2 in a right mess? Do you think the SPL was great fun for the other clubs with 2 walking over the rest every bloody season? Do you not think most of La Liga would piiss themselves if a Barcelona or Real Madrid went to fuuck? Or a Man Utd down south?
It's just a pity its not 2 out of 2
It's just a pity its not 2 out of 2
I take yer point geesyer.
It widnae be sae bad if some oh the weeir clubs wid step up tae the mark bit they dinnae seem tae be able?
It widnae be sae bad if some oh the weeir clubs wid step up tae the mark bit they dinnae seem tae be able?
mac - have you got an east coast phrasebook I can borrow
Naw but i could give you an east coast book on manners.
Surprised to find you on here Thought you might have been up at the kirk, praying for a miracle up the road
Thought you might have been up at the kirk, praying for a miracle up the road
Kid you not, feck is about the only guy I would propose to my lodge from the lot of you.
Aye the man would probably say that.
That disnae take away the fact that he wid be welcome though.
That disnae take away the fact that he wid be welcome though.
mac - I've nothing against u or other fans of ur club. Charles Green comes across as a wee weasel. He needs to understand that the 67 players thing came from his own clubs Share Prospectus which was in the public domain since Friday 7th Dec.
shudacuda
I think its Weegieland that has a problem.
Just an embarrasment to the rest of Scotland really.
I don't know about that. Although it's purely anecdotal, some of the worst racism/sectarianism I've encountered has been outside of the Central Belt in the wee nooks and crannies of Scotland where the small-mindedness which goes hand in hand with these social ills is arguably more prevalent.
As for Traynor, I was standing next to him in a Glasgow pub quite recently. He's an extremely small man with a disproportionately small head to his extremely large gut. According to a jouno friend of a friend, he was given a stay of execution at the Record when the first round of redundancies hit a while back, so it may be the case that he's jumped before he's been pushed. It wouldn't surprise me to be honest; he was nothing short of an embarrassment over the summer period on BBC radio when the SPL/SFL were having their vote on where Sevco would end up. It was desperate stuff.
I think its Weegieland that has a problem.
Just an embarrasment to the rest of Scotland really.
I don't know about that. Although it's purely anecdotal, some of the worst racism/sectarianism I've encountered has been outside of the Central Belt in the wee nooks and crannies of Scotland where the small-mindedness which goes hand in hand with these social ills is arguably more prevalent.
As for Traynor, I was standing next to him in a Glasgow pub quite recently. He's an extremely small man with a disproportionately small head to his extremely large gut. According to a jouno friend of a friend, he was given a stay of execution at the Record when the first round of redundancies hit a while back, so it may be the case that he's jumped before he's been pushed. It wouldn't surprise me to be honest; he was nothing short of an embarrassment over the summer period on BBC radio when the SPL/SFL were having their vote on where Sevco would end up. It was desperate stuff.
Does anybody buy the Daily Record or Sun in Scotland? You get what you deserve. Did I hear the other night that Keith Jackson has packed his bags for America?
Typical Clyde phone-in : "Panel, ra Rangers hiv been punished enuff...UEFA punished ra RAngers an' wur no' allowed tae play in Europe where we wun a European Cup when we wur allowed tae play against the Italians an' Russians an' that..."(ten minutes of utter gash follows regarding the continuous history of RA RANGERS, winning trophies on the pitch, world record crowds, etc...all uninterrupted by the panel...)
Then a Celtic fan phones to explain the meaning of "liquidation" and faces constant interruptions to explain the differences between "club" and "company"..." Well, it's all about opinions, caller..."
Typical Clyde phone-in : "Panel, ra Rangers hiv been punished enuff...UEFA punished ra RAngers an' wur no' allowed tae play in Europe where we wun a European Cup
when we wur allowed tae play against the Italians an' Russians an' that..."(ten minutes of utter gash follows regarding the continuous history of RA RANGERS, winning trophies on the pitch, world record crowds, etc...all uninterrupted by the panel...)Then a Celtic fan phones to explain the meaning of "liquidation" and faces constant interruptions to explain the differences between "club" and "company"..." Well, it's all about opinions, caller..."
^ Keech Jackson is still with the daily rainjur as I understand it, and it may be Darrel King (another rampant bluenose)
who is moving to America tho' I am relying on anecdotal evidence here as I don't involve myself with their brand of "objective" reporting
The truly staggering thing being the orcs believe the press in Scotland is "fulla they taigs!"
)who is moving to America
tho' I am relying on anecdotal evidence here as I don't involve myself with their brand of "objective" reporting The truly staggering thing being the orcs believe the press in Scotland is "fulla they taigs!"
Charles Green wont site back and let the club be slandered from pillar to post and has appointed Jim Trainer to handle the media side and its a good start.Jim Trainer has never come over as a fan imo but he was one of the few journos who did not blindly tow the RTC bloggers line, a line which falsely led many to show their true colors and put their heads above the parapet ,alex tompson ,cosgrove ect ect ect ect ect .
the part those so called journalists and their media bosses(c4, bbc ect ) played whipped up the sycophants into a frenzy.
Weasel ? i think not,more like a terrier imo . The rtc blogging rhats have run down the sewers and when they surface CG will be waiting.
is feck down to just the 8 usernames now ....
the part those so called journalists and their media bosses(c4, bbc ect ) played whipped up the sycophants into a frenzy.
Weasel ? i think not,more like a terrier imo . The rtc blogging rhats have run down the sewers and when they surface CG will be waiting.
is feck down to just the 8 usernames now ....
mac - I didn't chase you, I saw your posts, that's all. It's a fairly common mistake and I thought you might like to be enlightened.
Feel free to propose Feck. He's obviously an intelligent guy, but one with deep rooted animosity. I don't think I'd propose him, but neither of us have even met him. Or have you?
Feel free to propose Feck. He's obviously an intelligent guy, but one with deep rooted animosity. I don't think I'd propose him, but neither of us have even met him. Or have you?
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