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14 Nov 12
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anybody on this? koreans very strong at home and aussies not what they used to be...even scotland thrashed them
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It will be a relief to many Australian fans to see a number of new faces in the squad to take on South Korea in Hwaseong on Wednesday, but how much game time they get remains to be seen.
Tom Rogic, Aziz Behich, Mathew Leckie, Mathew Ryan and Eli Babalj are the five players who could make their debut against South Korea as Holger Osieck uses the friendly to trial a host of youngsters.
At 19, Rogic is the youngest of the quintet, and Osieck has called for calm ahead of his potential debut.
While Australia will field a much younger side than the XI which beat Iraq 2-1 in October, there is still a nucleus of senior experience.
Some of that senior experience is arguably a hindrance though, in an inconsequential friendly which some believe should be used to blood youth - particularly with the Socceroos to go into December's EAFF East Asian Cup qualifiers with a less-than full strength squad.
Players like Lucas Neill and Mark Schwarzer are sure to occupy spots in the starting XI which could be used to try other, younger options.
Neill's case is especially intriguing. After receiving a yellow card in the last game against Iraq, he will be unavailable for the next AFC World Cup qualifier against Oman in March, 2013.
Carl Valeri is in the same situation as Neill and will miss the match next year.
With Neill and Valeri both handed suspensions for the next qualifier, the friendly would be a good chance for Osieck to try other players and get combinations right before next March.
Having Neill in the side means one of Michael Thwaite or Matthew Spiranovic will start on the bench.
Being a friendly, Osieck will have the chance to make up to six substitutions, so expect most of the squad to make an appearance.
Ryan McGowan looks likely to get a chance after some strong club form with Hearts in Scotland, with Luke Wilkshire injuring his hamstring on Saturday playing for Dinamo Moscow and withdrawing from the squad.
Melbourne Heart's Aziz Behich could get a chance at left-back.
The home side are also taking the opportunity to blood some younger faces, with all but two of their players hailing from the K-League.
South Korea have elected not to call up Son Heung-Min, a 20-year-old striker playing for Hamburg in the Bundesliga.
Son and Sunderland striker Ji Dong-Wong are just some of the regular names missing from South Korea's squad.
Ji's absence from the attack will be noticeable, as the 21-year-old has scored eight times in 18 matches for South Korea since his debut.
Among those left in the side to face Australia is veteran Lee Dong****, who is South Korea's most experienced player with 93 national caps.
Also missing from the squad is regular captain Kwak Tae-Hwi, a defender whose absence could be exploited by Australia.
South Korea are coming off a 1-0 loss to Iran in their World Cup qualifier in October, and will be out to recover from that shock result.
The last time these two sides met was in the 2011 Asian Cup, a match which ended in a 1-1 draw.
Much has changed since then; playing for Australia that day were David Carney, Jason Culina, Brett Emerton and Harry Kewell, and it is safe to say the side that will start at Hwaseong will be far more youthful.
South Korea have won two and drawn one out of the three meetings between these sides.
Up front, it appears Alex Brosque will start again if Osieck continues to employ a lone striker, although Archie Thompson could come on earlier than usual to see if he can continue his good national-team form.
Adam Sarota will miss the game with a knee injury, but his young Utrecht team mate Tommy Oar will most likely play on the left at some stage.
The Socceroos have also lost more experience in midfield, with Matt McKay withdrawing after suffering a face cut while with club side Busan on the weekend. Former Adelaide United defender Robbie Cornthwaite - now with Chunnam Dragons in the K-League - has been called up.
Expect an open affair, with both managers keen to explore new attacking options and new ideas throughout the game.
Tom Rogic, Aziz Behich, Mathew Leckie, Mathew Ryan and Eli Babalj are the five players who could make their debut against South Korea as Holger Osieck uses the friendly to trial a host of youngsters.
At 19, Rogic is the youngest of the quintet, and Osieck has called for calm ahead of his potential debut.
While Australia will field a much younger side than the XI which beat Iraq 2-1 in October, there is still a nucleus of senior experience.
Some of that senior experience is arguably a hindrance though, in an inconsequential friendly which some believe should be used to blood youth - particularly with the Socceroos to go into December's EAFF East Asian Cup qualifiers with a less-than full strength squad.
Players like Lucas Neill and Mark Schwarzer are sure to occupy spots in the starting XI which could be used to try other, younger options.
Neill's case is especially intriguing. After receiving a yellow card in the last game against Iraq, he will be unavailable for the next AFC World Cup qualifier against Oman in March, 2013.
Carl Valeri is in the same situation as Neill and will miss the match next year.
With Neill and Valeri both handed suspensions for the next qualifier, the friendly would be a good chance for Osieck to try other players and get combinations right before next March.
Having Neill in the side means one of Michael Thwaite or Matthew Spiranovic will start on the bench.
Being a friendly, Osieck will have the chance to make up to six substitutions, so expect most of the squad to make an appearance.
Ryan McGowan looks likely to get a chance after some strong club form with Hearts in Scotland, with Luke Wilkshire injuring his hamstring on Saturday playing for Dinamo Moscow and withdrawing from the squad.
Melbourne Heart's Aziz Behich could get a chance at left-back.
The home side are also taking the opportunity to blood some younger faces, with all but two of their players hailing from the K-League.
South Korea have elected not to call up Son Heung-Min, a 20-year-old striker playing for Hamburg in the Bundesliga.
Son and Sunderland striker Ji Dong-Wong are just some of the regular names missing from South Korea's squad.
Ji's absence from the attack will be noticeable, as the 21-year-old has scored eight times in 18 matches for South Korea since his debut.
Among those left in the side to face Australia is veteran Lee Dong****, who is South Korea's most experienced player with 93 national caps.
Also missing from the squad is regular captain Kwak Tae-Hwi, a defender whose absence could be exploited by Australia.
South Korea are coming off a 1-0 loss to Iran in their World Cup qualifier in October, and will be out to recover from that shock result.
The last time these two sides met was in the 2011 Asian Cup, a match which ended in a 1-1 draw.
Much has changed since then; playing for Australia that day were David Carney, Jason Culina, Brett Emerton and Harry Kewell, and it is safe to say the side that will start at Hwaseong will be far more youthful.
South Korea have won two and drawn one out of the three meetings between these sides.
Up front, it appears Alex Brosque will start again if Osieck continues to employ a lone striker, although Archie Thompson could come on earlier than usual to see if he can continue his good national-team form.
Adam Sarota will miss the game with a knee injury, but his young Utrecht team mate Tommy Oar will most likely play on the left at some stage.
The Socceroos have also lost more experience in midfield, with Matt McKay withdrawing after suffering a face cut while with club side Busan on the weekend. Former Adelaide United defender Robbie Cornthwaite - now with Chunnam Dragons in the K-League - has been called up.
Expect an open affair, with both managers keen to explore new attacking options and new ideas throughout the game.
That midfield. Isnt great I'd expect Korea to have the better of the play
im against the aussies here, just not sure whether a straight lay or lay some correct scores
why has the market reacted like this. Australia looking better. SK now 1.8
laid under 1.5 goalsin first half.Now im getting out
http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2012/11/14/world/friendlies/korea-republic/...
http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2012/11/14/world/friendlies/korea-republic/australia/1403922/
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neither team can defend, the koreans are awful at the back
Think the korean odds are well too low at 2.4. Think the ozzies might take this.
Will just back another goal so. Korea are useless without the brains of the operation Park since he's retired
The momentum was defo with Australia at the end of the half. I agree with zorba2, Korea defo too low at 2.4. Australia, will win if they can keep up the level they were playing at. Although with either team you could never rule out some sort of retarded defensive error. Although with Lucas Niell and Schwarzer you would have to think Australia will have the experience to at least come away with the draw.
Haven't watched this at all... odds almost the same as before kick off? Was S. Korea so much better?
SK started much the better......Aust finished the half much the better
Thanks... now I just can't understand the market then. I think I'll lay Korea.
I'd bet that neil and schwarzers combined age is greater than the south korean teams combined age. The koreans are fast and have some skills but the ozzies are stronger and I think that will be the difference
Those Asians hide their years... they could be older than they look! :)
Also, the Australians are always renown for being incredibly fit as well as strong! This Korean team is rubbish.
2.26 now... was about 2.16@KO. Definately a lay for starters.
Backed Korea will I just back another goal to win back some of the money or could this end a draw easily??
I think there will be another goal at least.
Australian have a good record when going behind and equalizing.........
1-1
2-2
2-3
3-1
Those are South Korea's results from 1-1 at HT in 12 years at home.
2-2
2-3
3-1
Those are South Korea's results from 1-1 at HT in 12 years at home.
2-1
2-2
1-1
1-2
1-2
3-1
And those, Australia's away.
2-2
1-1
1-2
1-2
3-1
And those, Australia's away.
not bad, seems even enough, coin toss, maybe slightly favouring the Koreans cause they are at home
my database, originally from FIFA though
Wow. Have these stats helped you at all? Did you import the fifa stats into your own Excel database?
easy enough, select them all from the results page, copy and paste into notepad, remove all of the bits and pieces and paste them into Excel, then if you want, save as .csv and make a database from it.
beware though as we could get up to 12 substitutions in this half and the game will thus be fragmented
im saying 12, i dont know how many were made if any, at half time
Im good with excel but making a search function for a database is currently beyond me! A good site is also football Data .co.uk . Australia are kicking ass here
I know this is only a friendly but:
South Korea have had goals scored in the 2nd half of 14 of their last 15 games
Australia have had goals scored in the 2nd half of 13 of their last 15 games
South Korea have had goals scored in the 2nd half of 14 of their last 15 games
Australia have had goals scored in the 2nd half of 13 of their last 15 games
when you've got a database you just need to use the filter at the top of the page.
really. Interesting. what did you filter in order to get the ht 1-1 etc?
I used my Excel for that, my you would just put something like Home Team is equal to South Korea AND HTResultHome is equal to 1 AND HTResultAway is equal to 1.
Ah.Incredible. Xheers. You should check out that footballdata site its pretty good.
not very good for internationals though
Anyway, I have to go have a blood test. Exciting! 
Whose watching anyways has the been anything good this half
Good luck. Don't let them bull **** you about Candida though!!
or a "medical technician"? None of my business really but I got taken for a ride a few years ago about candida, glucose etc
conversation is a little distracted here. Pretty good game. Lots of shots. Schwarzers doing really well
Nov 14, 2012 -- 11:25AM, zorba2 wrote:
conversation is a little distracted here. Pretty good game. Lots of shots. Schwarzers doing really well
It's a forum buddy, people are meant to chat 
stop eating sugar and starch and eat fresh food, sorts out most things. avoid "proper" doctors.
hopefully all the subs will shake things up and oz sneak a goal against the run...
the stadium seems to have filled up a bit since kick off
hopefully all the subs will shake things up and oz sneak a goal against the run...
the stadium seems to have filled up a bit since kick off
Good save by Korean keeper. Reckon this will stay 1-1 but I would slightly favour the fitter stronger and more heavily accented Australians!
i just had a bowl of kimchi, hopefully this won't swing the game in favour of the koreans
kimchi the only food i always eat with chopsticks, odd that.
I've just eaten a dog,hopefully this wont swing the game in favour of the australians 
ive just put on my dicky bow..hope this doesnt swing things in favour of the TIE
1-2 must have been the dog/kangaroo/dickie bow combo
20 @ 11.5..... cashed out, feel like crying - ****g couldn't get a stream.
pleasaed i greened out my oz lay soon after korea scored.didnt see this coming tbh
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