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21 Oct 12
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yes the old fashion way but you can guarenty money diapers if theres a goal
i wanted to get back into those mexican games - but all the actions occuring beyond reach now
SirSilva 21 Oct 12 00:37 Joined: 13 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 1 | Blogger: SirSilva's blog
I think this cant be taken so easiely . I dont know what happen but im sure it wasnt my fault
It is your fault, and you should be ashamed of yourself......
I think this cant be taken so easiely . I dont know what happen but im sure it wasnt my fault
It is your fault, and you should be ashamed of yourself......
u placed the bet silva just cause ur injured find something better to be doing
Betfair really are a f*cking shambles at times.
Suspend everything, not even a message telling us they're even aware of a problem, no apology or anything, yet they can settle games within 4-5 minutes of the full time whistle even though they had it suspended for the last 20 minutes. Absolutely useless.
Suspend everything, not even a message telling us they're even aware of a problem, no apology or anything, yet they can settle games within 4-5 minutes of the full time whistle even though they had it suspended for the last 20 minutes. Absolutely useless.
stridingedge..sadly as a trader you have to risk big and take a loss if things dont go your way, This site has been reliable and so gutted.
I lost all my profits (Frankels win, Laying stoke 1-0 at half time) and laying west brom win
all winnings gone. A day wasted. Just glad I wasnt chasing or it would be tears tonight.
I lost all my profits (Frankels win, Laying stoke 1-0 at half time) and laying west brom win
all winnings gone. A day wasted. Just glad I wasnt chasing or it would be tears tonight.
it only finished 2-0 so thats a loser wisewords, 2nd goal wasnt till 87th min.
you would have had to red out, you wouldnt have greened out
you would have had to red out, you wouldnt have greened out
you're wrong. 2nd goal was 76th minute. http://espnfc.com/uk/en/gamecast/341532/gamecast.html?soccernet=true&cc=5739
I already have an account there, but as you, i, everyone and most importantly Betfair knows, there's f*ck all liquidity over there unless it's a top premier league or la liga game. So betfair get away time and again with providing a shocking service.
Biscuit, is there any chance I will get any form of compensation for this loss? I could clearly have traded out after the 2nd goal.
on another night not being able to trade could have worked in your favour maxtor, just one of those things unfortunately.
Lost £111. My max loss (trading) is £20 and so this suspesion cost me £91 :-(
100 may be nothing to you, but it is a big loss to me.
no steve - my bad - not a win. it's the bet i would have made if ruddy game not susp!!
wisewords 21 Oct 12 00:48
Biscuit, is there any chance I will get any form of compensation for this loss? I could clearly have traded out after the 2nd goal.
you could try ringing them but i don't rate your chances
Biscuit, is there any chance I will get any form of compensation for this loss? I could clearly have traded out after the 2nd goal.
you could try ringing them but i don't rate your chances
Betfair has to explain this ilegal suspension, because they just cant offer live betting markets and then suspend them.
I wanted to cash out my wager before the ending but I couldnt due to this meltdown.
They owe us an EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted to cash out my wager before the ending but I couldnt due to this meltdown.
They owe us an EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 20, 2012 -- 6:48PM, stridingedge wrote:
on another night not being able to trade could have worked in your favour maxtor, just one of those things unfortunately.
Yep, this is working in my favour so far, but i'd rather have the security all the same
wisewords no chance mate
they have no idea what the intentions were, they'd have claims from people who had no intention of trading.
can you imagine the site goes down and you wnated to trade and can't but the result goes in your favour? are you going to ring them up and say they should take some of your profit away?
they have no idea what the intentions were, they'd have claims from people who had no intention of trading.
can you imagine the site goes down and you wnated to trade and can't but the result goes in your favour? are you going to ring them up and say they should take some of your profit away?
stridingedge.. yes and last 8 minutes I was so praying for a goal as I knew I would lose all of my money as no way betfair will void the bets.
you always have to assume this place could crash at any time, the worst case scenario and stake accordingly!
was on unders in cf america game managed to lay off half at half time, would have dumped more before 2nd goal 77 mins and def would have before 87th min 3rd.
i'm only asking for my stake back. surely i'm entitled to that?#
Oct 20, 2012 -- 6:50PM, ooooyes wrote:
Betfair has to explain this ilegal suspension, because they just cant offer live betting markets and then suspend them.I wanted to cash out my wager before the ending but I couldnt due to this meltdown.They owe us an EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its clearly the data providers problem, which is a different company to Betfair. All BF can do is suspend
inevitably some would have done better as a result of not being able to trade in the games!
What they should ..but they wont..is to refund all bets..then find out whos to blame and claim compensation of them .....
Also, why did they not put the games inplay as unmanaged markets? What they did was wrong
Oct 20, 2012 -- 6:55PM, doppo189 wrote:
What they should ..but they wont..is to refund all bets..then find out whos to blame and claim compensation of them .....
When you make a bet it's placed in good faith at that time. You have no control over the future.
inevitably some would have done better as a result of not being able to trade in the games!
You.
Overs in the Queretao game has just come in, at what looks like the 95th minute.
I'd have tra......
I'd have let the bet run.
You.
Overs in the Queretao game has just come in, at what looks like the 95th minute.
I'd have tra......
I'd have let the bet run.
Sod's law that no goals are going in, in the markets still available.
When you make a bet it's placed in good faith yes and good faith that betfair can handel the market ??????
jinkie you best phone them up and say take some of my profit back as you would have traded 
if betfair cant handel a market they should not put it up in the first place
Jinkie you best phone them up and say take some of my profit back as you would have traded
They've already paid out.
I'll donate a percentage of my profits to the 'Update the Betfair computer to a ZX Spectrum' fund.
They've already paid out.
I'll donate a percentage of my profits to the 'Update the Betfair computer to a ZX Spectrum' fund.
was it just betfair or other sites, ie bookmakers? does anyone know?
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:03PM, stridingedge wrote:
was it just betfair or other sites, ie bookmakers? does anyone know?
the data feed is down on all bookies, for example 365 have no stats.
I had Club America-Leon game open here and on Bet365. It was still available for betting on B365.
I think 365 were manually managing the market, ie somebody watching a stream of it
i have two suspended markets on b365 i cant trade out of because they are suspended - got to be a widespread data provider problem,,,f uck f uck f uck
yeah they must have
they wouldn't leave markets open if they didn't know what was going on in the games
they wouldn't leave markets open if they didn't know what was going on in the games
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:05PM, Boozle wrote:
I think 365 were manually managing the market, ie somebody watching a stream of it
Exactly. Instead of taking the drastic action of suspending all markets, all they need to do is increase the bet placement time.
I've got a £200 liability on one market at the moment, thankfully I normally bet on things I fully expect to come in anyway, but i would have traded away my liability as the market moved if I could have
so Boozle, if you lose your £200 now, will you just accept it?
I suppose so, would have been nice if they'd reopened it at half time though
What else can you do WW? I've won and lost small or big amounts from these or similar situations. Some you win, some you lose. The main lesson is not to bet more than you can afford to lose.
I can't get round the fact that they didn't put them open as unmanaged markets
Fair enough if they can't put a game inplay because the stream is unavailable from the off, so they take it out of inplay and post the message on the forum. Then re-open the market at HT
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:03PM, stridingedge wrote:was it just betfair or other sites, ie bookmakers? does anyone know?
sorry mate could not give a toss about over bookmakers i placed my bet here
feel sorry for you guys luckily my 4 fold has just come in sweating big time on it too, hope you are able to get back in to save your positions
but these games were all fine and then suddenly it all goes pear shaped. Leaving the markets open as unmanaged would have been the sensible thing to do with games that are at 70 mins
doppo
i was just trying to gauge where the fault lies, was it a general theme or just bet fair specific?
i was just trying to gauge where the fault lies, was it a general theme or just bet fair specific?
I don't sit here for fun. I sat here watching it specifically to judge if I needed to trade out. I've e-mailed asking if I can have my stake returned. This is the first time I've emailed betfair..
yeah, if every other bookie was fine and betfair computers had had a meltdown, then I would be more angry, especially if it was a market I couldn't lay off elsewhere.
not betfair specific ive been to ladbrokes and paddypower, and my one b365 abd they all have the same games suspended
Problem is WW, your bet lost. Trading is a series of winning and losing bets, not a winning position. You can't refund the stake from a winning punter. Betfair are just a middleman, albeit in this situation one not doing its full job.
stridingedge hi mate was not having a pop at you..but specific or not they cant just suspend all games and then shrug there shoulders
to be fair, how many examples are there of refunds being given by betfair? I know its happened, but not very often compared to the number of issues there have been
well if the feeds are down they can't leave markets open, someone out there is bound to have a way of knowing what's going on in the games?
they'd just hoover the lot anyway when everyone else was totally clueless about whats going on
they'd just hoover the lot anyway when everyone else was totally clueless about whats going on
I understand this Darlo. But how can they have a game inplay for 70 mins, then suddenly not let us manage our positions for the last 20 minutes?
"We are currently experiencing a technical difficulty with our In Play football coverage which is under investigation. We hope to have this resolved as soon as possible and we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause."
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:17PM, stridingedge wrote:well if the feeds are down they can't leave markets open, someone out there is bound to have a way of knowing what's going on in the games?they'd just hoover the lot anyway when everyone else was totally clueless about whats going on
agree but all they had to do is turn the market into unmanaged not suspend
It's not betfair's responsibility to provide feeds or inscore though
It's their responsibility to provide inplay markets.
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:17PM, stridingedge wrote:
well if the feeds are down they can't leave markets open, someone out there is bound to have a way of knowing what's going on in the games?they'd just hoover the lot anyway when everyone else was totally clueless about whats going on
That's why they can increase the bet timer instead rather than take an extreme measure, especially in games 70 minutes in.
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:21PM, wisewords wrote:
It's their responsibility to provide inplay markets.
top shout
And especially in the case of games that have been inplay for the majority. It is a little different if they can't put it inplay from the start.
But how can they encourage us to bet with a view to managing our positions, then suddenly at 50/60/70/80 mins decide 'oh by the way you can't now'
and basically leave us swinging on a cliff edge. Disgraceful
i think they should change thier name to betunfair or betwhenweletyou
welcome to betfair
i'm amazed you've not seen this several times wise words
i'm amazed you've not seen this several times wise words
i've seen it alot with games advertised as inplay, not going inplay when it kicks off and then them posting a message on the forum. But not seen them suddenly lose a bunch of games at 70 minutes etc
be very wary of trading
this place can go down at any time and the feeds are often dodgy in the south american stuff.
trade only an amount where losing the lot would be ok
this place can go down at any time and the feeds are often dodgy in the south american stuff.
trade only an amount where losing the lot would be ok
Oh well, my £200 bet came in as a win, so I've dodged this bullet tonight.
message to betfair there are a couple of games going on on sunday if you phone skysports for a few quid you can get live feeds
Oh well, my £200 bet came in as a win, so I've dodged this bullet tonight.
well done so have i no thanks to bf / 3265
well done so have i no thanks to bf / 3265
Seems like the strikers are joining Betfair in suspending services.
Oct 20, 2012 -- 7:17PM, stridingedge wrote:
well if the feeds are down they can't leave markets open, someone out there is bound to have a way of knowing what's going on in the games?they'd just hoover the lot anyway when everyone else was totally clueless about whats going on
Yes, but it is the same with tennis, cricket etc. and there are no 'suspended' markets in those because they don't manage them. Why just football?
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