Ferguson has written a letter to all man utd fans going to Anfield

newco,

Can you beleive SAF has coerced Liverpool into asking him and Sir Bobby Charlton to lay wreaths at the Kop pre match.

And he has also worked it so that Vidic joins Gerrard in releasing 96 balloons. Oh and he has insisted on them being red in colour.

As long as he bows to the Kop and asks for forgiveness at what he wrongly did to one of Liverpool greatest heroes KD...

Yet KD had this to say about SAF;



“When the Hillsborough disaster happened back in 1989, Sir Alex Ferguson was straight on the phone to offer his help in any way he could,” Dalglish said. “People out there have different opinions about him. Some love him, some hate him, but when something terrible happens, like Hillsborough, Alex is one of the first asking what he can do. So although there is an intense rivalry between Manchester United and Liverpool, it would never prevent Alex from offering his assistance, which is exactly what he did back then.”


Odd isn't it.......

yea well they all generally say nice things about eachother in public, this is all a mending bridges campaign with Ferguson trying to reap as much glory as he can from it... will his clubs fans follow suit or show the same feelings they always have done before, perhaps a public apology from the fans is in order.

only when liverpool fc and their supporters apologise for all their disgraceful actions over the past half century

Ferguson has written a letter to all man utd fans going to Anfield


Thanks Mr Halsey for not singing any songs.

Sep 22, 2012 -- 8:17PM, Come in United Road wrote:

only when liverpool fc and their supporters apologise for all their disgraceful actions over the past half century

grow the f uck up.

a perfectly good request if you are asking utd fans to apologise for everything too. you arent always the victim you know, get over it.

TALKSPORT

Man U fans ended the day by singing "It's never your fault, always the victim it's never your fault"

They just couldn't resist it

Singing "murderers, murderers" - what a class act Manchester United are.

oh dear. did man utd spoil your sunday?

No one mentioning the liverpool fans who as the ground was emptying decided to run towards us doing the airplane action!!!

what did you think we was going to do start applauding them and say well its your day so we will let you do what you want and we won't say anything back.

To all the people going on about the songs that have been sung murderers etc..... well the munich song is song over n over again even at functions to raise money for the Hillsborough disaster, and when you say it hurts the family's then what about Sir bobby charlton whos friends died on that plane??? so just because we dont feel sorry for ourselves do you think the Munich chants and actions are ok?

This thread is about Sir Alex Ferguson writing a letter to Manchester United supporters

"Our great club stands with our great neighbours Liverpool today to remember that loss and pay tribute to their campaign for justice. I know I can count on you to stand with us in the best traditions of the best fans in the game.
"Yours sincerely, Sir Alex Ferguson."

"I know I can count on you to stand with us in the best traditions of the best fans in the game."

- actually no you can't

Both of these great clubs have a tiny minority of moronic,neanderthal idiots that shouldn't be allowed within 100 miles of Anfield or Old Trafford.

Just imagine the mindset you must have to "sing" about dead footballers/fans.........the most worrying aspect being that most of these have kids.What a father figure they must be and gold help the kids,that's all i can say.

themover

if you were offering balanced criticism then id agree with you

but youre not. youre focusing on a minority from one club as it gives you an excuse about man utd

its all a bit pathetic from you in truth

Southampton away the other week we had the plane gesture at us....does it make the news ???? NO because its not the topic of the week but what makes me laugh is when we played liverpool last season on feb 11 th ( 5 days after the anniversary of the Munich disaster ) They were singing all the Munich songs and the paper airplanes being thrown etc... but you lot because of your hate for united ignore that because that wouldn't make you feel better about yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHMyp_jIyw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpra2Dtm3PA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXx4CsTj1c0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pRwTLaOaRg

sorry raj I am posting on a thread regarding a letter from SAF to the clubs supporters. If you think I support the Liverpool fans chanting then you are very much mistaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGAgLqxvbnI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djL5ydEfagE


Gone to the trouble of getting a inflatable airplane!!!!!

you are just stupid themover get over yourself.  You have made a right tw@t of yourself.

So everyone say's that this is ok because they hate united.

themover

if youre trying to claim that your comments on this thread are fair and balanced then youre delusional

well done mufc, you have found a collection of chanting from a variety of clubs. Do you think this exonerates the singing of such chants by United supporters at yesterdays game following their managers request?

raj, as I stated earlier in this thread no clubs supporters should be allowed to get away with it, whether they are United, City, Liverpool, Arsenal or Accrington Stanley. The supporters should all be banned from football grounds for a long time. That is my opinion.

phuck off

We did not sing until we was provoked.

They don't run as us doing munich gestures after they were the one's giving it the whole I hope they respect the day etc.... then they decided to do that , so they got what they deserved as you can't have your cake and eat it.

Banned from grounds lol....................so people on a football forum who never go want clubs to ban people who pay because other who just sit at home and dont put nothing back into the club say so HAHAHAHAAAAH f uck off.

you were there singing I take it mufc?

mufc81

We did not sing until we was provoked.

They don't run as us doing munich gestures after they were the one's giving it the whole I hope they respect the day etc.... then they decided to do that , so they got what they deserved as you can't have your cake and eat it.

Are you five years old?  Just ignore them, be happy with the win and don't resort to juvenile tit for tat shíte like that would be the level headed person's approach.

themover

you can read back to your comments on this thread. if you think theyre reasonable and not aimed as a dig at man utd then so be it we will have to disagree

Rob the cockneys can't take it.

rob so is that the same for you lot jut ignore us then.

you logic doe's not make sense your claiming were 5 yr old's for not ignoring them but in the same breath your not ignoring us????

pleasse explain.

Sep 24, 2012 -- 12:04PM, themover wrote:

you were there singing I take it mufc?

?

yes

mufc81

rob so is that the same for you lot jut ignore us then.

If you think I'm a Liverpool fan, I'm not.  If Man United fans came to Valley Parade and started singing songs about the Bradford Fire, then yes, I would ignore them.  What good would retaliatory songs do?

Im asking why you are not ignoring the united chants if you claim we should be ignorinng the liverpool chants?????

yet you haven't given me a answer yet

maybe then mufc you can explain to my two young nephews who are season ticket holders at Old Trafford why some of the clubs supporters felt it necessary to ignore SAF's letter regarding the chants and also why they have to listen to these obscenities when they go to Manchester United.

didn't ask who you supported I asked why you think its ok to comment about utd fans but when you get told about the liverpool fans you choose to ignore it and claim we should just ignore them....so why shouldn't you just ignore us then????

this thread was about Manchester United, if it makes you happier create one about Liverpool and I will post exactly the same in there.

Easy Ive been going since I was 7 I've had piss n **** thrown at us , spat on songs about munich etc for 24yrs so this was just the same, If they wouldn't of come over giving it the plane gesture then nothing would of been sung......I take it nephews don't sing then...no wonder old trafford is like a morgue now.

hahahah tell them to not go to old trafford if thats going to get them upset.

themover

its about you not mentioning liverpool

its about you using a minor incident to have a pop at man utd

lets be honest - you seem quite anti united with most of your posts. are you a city fan? to be expected i guess

so you couldn't rise above the Liverpool chants so just stooped to their level....missed opportunity there isn't it?

mufc81

Im asking why you are not ignoring the united chants if you claim we should be ignorinng the liverpool chants?????

Because they were borne directly out of the Liverpool chants.  If you'd ignored them in the first place, there'd be no discussion over what Man United fans sang to Liverpool fans.  Just so I'm clear, the Liverpool fans singing about Munich at the Man United fans are díckheads.  Of that there's no doubt.  But so are the Man United fans who felt that the appropriate response was to sing retaliatory songs about Heysel. 

My point is that it's like an argument between two children and your reply was "they started it".  It's very sad.  If you had children and one called the other a name, would you tell the other to call them something worse, or to ignore it?

raj, you won't believe me but I'm not anti United in the way you are making it sound. Yes I'm a City fan but most of my family are United fans. I actually enjoy the rivalry between the two clubs but there are boundaries to that. I have no problem in stating how ashamed I have been every time I have heard City fans singing about Munich. My youngest nephew that is now an OT season ticket holder I even had to explain it to one day when he asked what the song was about

for what its worth i dont think you can justify the chants whatever happened

but i do think that if youre going to start having a pop at man utd about this you need to do so with all of the facts (that being that there was provocation) and also to accept that no set of fans is without criticism

otherwise it just comes across as a cheap pop at man utd in general

themover

a reasoned post - good for you

but if you think that saying Singing "murderers, murderers" - what a class act Manchester United are. is a reasoned way to contribute to the discussion then we are worlds apart mate

yes raj you are probably right. I know for a fact it's not the majority of United supporters.

and at least SAF did his best to get the club shown in it's best light

fair dos

here's my nephews facebook quote from yesterday

"Well played today United, Liverpool made it hard for us, but we got the result. Massive respect for LFC and all they've been through this week and the last 23 years."

I think it's important to take into account that it's really only a small minority nowdays that get involved with these sick songs. They do it to provoke a reaction, & cause outrage from the vast majority of decent folk. Football forums like this are full of those decent folk, who in turn, end up bickering, & start using past bad behaviour of the other club's supporters. It all ends up becoming very messy.

Let the scumbags sing their songs. If we all just ignored it & concentrated on football matters. Over the course of time, they'd simply fade away.

"Are you five years old?  Just ignore them, be happy with the win and don't resort to juvenile tit for tat shíte like that would be the level headed person's approach. "

WTF?  Why do Liverpool have to be treated differently to everyone else.

Liverpool sign about Munich - just ignore them
Man Utd sign back about "it never being your fault" = as bad as holocaust denial.

Liverpool just revel in their victim status don't they?

Not sure how you reached that from what I said, but don't let me get in the way of your rant.  My point was that if you ignore the few morons who start it all, they'd knock it on the head and it'd never become anything of note.  This would apply regardless of which teams were involved or who was "provoked".

Yep, 50 years of Munich songs....the ignore them tact has really worked.

So rob why don't you just ignore the united fans rather than talk about it and we will go away won't we!!!

I like the way you still don't bother saying anything about the liverpool fans other than just ignore them , the same for them then just ignore us.

But then that would get in the way of you trying to just have a go at utd wouldn't it.

You must have overlooked my post at 12:20, then.

I suppose I'm just puzzled that a 31 year old man would act like this, but it's your prerogative to do so.

haha act like this......What happens in a football ground stays in a football ground. If a few hundred united fans singing songs and a few hundred liverpool fans doing airplane gestures are going to bring the football world to a stand still then god help us , your not a liverpool fan or united fan you have it in for united due to the fact that no matter how many times I ask you why you think united should ignore pool fans when you lot dont ignore us you can't give me a answer.

M.U.F.C O.K

Two of the worst set of fans in the country. As bad as each other, time they moved into the new millennium.

Who do you support harry?

all clubs have idiots that are in the minority...mufc81 is one of them. A disgrace to your club, that's about the best I can come up with to describe you

I suppose I'm just puzzled that a 31 year old man would act like this, but it's your prerogative to do so.


Puzzled??!!......check out the Everton squad thread he just started.Tells you everything you need to know about "men" like him.He believes football should be based on tribal warfare and untill we get people like him out of our game,football will always be dragged down.

hahaaha but people like you themover who never go to games are great supporters lol

I've been to more matches than you've had hot dinners. Grow up son.

I love how these people on here have never booed a player sang a song with no swear words also I can say 100% that when we have played your clubs your fans have done the munich plane action to us.So your clubs are as bad if not worse than us.

bull s hit.

so which match did you go to this weekend then??

you just googling a game now?

5 mins gone by now still waiting for which game you was at this weekend.

It's irrelevant who I support, If I write the team you will have some critism of my team. You ought to be looking at your own teams shortcomings, something ManUre supporters have difficulty doing. Grow up FFS.

Valencia were playing away this weekend, I didn't go.

mufc

im a united fan and i dont think you're covering yourself in glory here

whilst i accept (and said) that i think themovers initial comments were a little unbalanced, just responding to criticism of hillsborough song with a comment of 'well they did it to us' is not right.

mufc81

What happens in a football ground stays in a football ground

your not a liverpool fan or united fan you have it in for united due to the fact that no matter how many times I ask you why you think united should ignore pool fans when you lot dont ignore us you can't give me a answer.

Are you a pirate?

I don't have it in for United at all.  What do you mean by "you lot"?  You haven't played my club for over ten years.

You ought to be looking at your own teams shortcomings, something ManUre supporters have difficulty doing

and thats supposed to be a mature comment is it?

a childish name coupled with a crass generalisation

yes well done on taking the moral highground

yes,mufc,Liverpool do have our own version of idiotic fans like you.Pathetic,childish individuals who dont care about football just as long as we are seen to be tough by singing about dead fans.You are a throwback from the 70's and 80's and sadly in a crowd of 50'000,it only takes a very small % of idiots like you to give the rest of us a bad name.

Manchester Utd,a truly great club, should be ashamed to have fans like you

hahaha so you didn't go this weekend but claim you go to more games than me, I went to around 50 games last season as I don't use an excuse that cause my team is away I can't go..... so based on you saying you don't go away games I double the games you attend a year!!!

the person that bought you your computer should feel very ashamed

Yeh ashamed to have fans who don't just sit and take s hit about the clubs history from pool fans over n over , I pay my money and go people like you ( if do go OT just sit there and don't sing and make the place like a morgue).....If you don't like it don't go or go to anfield and support liverpool who you seem to care about a lot more.

every club has idiots....some more than others but that's by the by....in this instance Ferguson practically begged Utd fans to be respectful for obvious reasons and that respect was so heartfelt that a couple of nutters out of 40,000 fans was enough to see them launch into their hate songs....how f**king fickle....let's not kid ourselves it was a minority and let's not kid ourselves they're decent fans

Was you there yesterday fred???

I said I have BEEN to more matches than you, I'm older than you so no surprise there. I moved to Spain many years ago and I go to Gandia FC, Valencia, Llevante, Ontinyente, Denia to name a few. Unlike you I don't just go and watch football from one club. If you think going to Manchester United home and away games makes you any better than any other supporter of your club then you are mistaken. There are many that either live too far away or it's too expensive. I know my nephews would love to go to every match but it's too expensive for them. Does that make you a better fan than them?

MUFC81 comes across as a bit bitter than he missed out on the footie violence days of the 70's & 80's.

Believe me mate, unless you enjoy the thrill of getting home from a match without having your face smashed in, it was nothing special.

The Munich song was/is nasty & hurtful. But it belonged in an era when football fans did a lot of 'nasty & hurtful' things. None more so than Manchester United fans btw. Thankfully, most people have moved on since then. All with the exception of a few, who stand on a crumbling piece of moral ground, spouting out their hypocritical indignation.

Absolutely amazed at some of the posts here.

United fans, many against their instincts behaved impeccably pre match upto YNWA

During YNWA, which is always belted out, United fans chanted UNITED, the speakers were turned up in response. Were we allowed to sing at that point?

During the match, two fat blokes in that stand to our right started doing the plane gestures, some of our lads chanted "Where's your Munich song" to them but it only lasted seconds before others stopped it.

No problems during the rest of the game.

Liverpool chanted about and booed Evra, United did the same about Suarez

After the game some idiots from Liverpool stayed behind to purposely antagonise us and started doing the plane gestures towards us. The police/stewards were then met with "we haven't done anything" by these idiots when they tackled them.

United fans then ironically sang the "always the victims" song to them. In turn they did the plane gestures again and United fans then chanted other stuff which was regrettable, but absolutely nothing about Hillsborough.

So it all boils down to a few Liverpool idiots provoking the United fans who in turn decided that the gloves were off and responded badly.

The chanting outside from both sets of fans was "business as normal" frankly.

That's it end of story. Liverpool happy with how the day went for them, United happy their fans behaved as well as they did.

Thanks peter. These two fat blokes you mention do you think the club should take any action against them or is it to be brushed under the carpet? (accepting it might be quite difficult to trace a description of "two fat blokes" )

I think they were arrested mate, certainly taken away.

Liverpool fans just can't resist. They're that sad. We turned up in town, won in what was their FA Cup final and they tried all they could to turn it sour, they couldn't. Sad idiots most Pool fans I am afriad.

in a nutshell RMB well done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19703504

Are these the same fans who are moaning about uniteds chants???

keep kidding yourself, pete the butcher...if any reasonable human being gave a sh!t about other football fans dying and being lied to for 23 yrs (and it could have been anyone in that semi-final, inc Utd), they wouldnt have had any difficulty keeping their trap shut for one afternoon....sadly, we saw the true colours instead

Who are you talking about duncan?

The Liverpool fans making the Plane gestures and chanting Munich or the United fans singing the songs in response?

I blame both but that's because I see a problem with both actions whereas you only see one problem and just ignore the other.

Talking about true colours, I also heard the "Maggie Thatcher Die" chant yesterday. Hardly appropriate but no point talking about that as it was the Liverpool fans singing it.

Were you their RMB? You are just a no-mark gloryhunter so I expect not