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dcw1978
24 Aug 12 22:08
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more gls than usual here i reckon
on the asian handicap total gls
0-1 goals lose
2-3 gls break even
4+ gls up over 100%
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Report MDWat August 25, 2012 12:52 AM BST
You're probably in the most horrible situation of all dadio as you had a winner no matter what. But because the match has been abandoned, the match odds market will be voided, unless the game is completed within 3 days. It won't be unless it is done tonight as Lobos play again on Thurs.
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 12:53 AM BST

Aug 25, 2012 -- 12:50AM, dadio wrote:


still not getting this cash out thing,surely the clue's in the word OUT meaning I opted out of the game before called off,  regardless of outcome?


Cash out is just the same as greening up basically. You matched some winning bets and some losing bets. So you can't pay out on half of them. I was green on the match market whatever the outcome but won't win because it's a mixture of winning/losing bets which don't get settled.

Report TheKingOfKong August 25, 2012 12:56 AM BST
Put it this way, if the market was settled before abandonment, it's settled, if it wasnt, it's voided.
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 12:59 AM BST
Damn. Just found out that on WillHill the match odds market would be settled if the result is allowed to stand.
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 12:59 AM BST
Let's hope it is allowed to stand then as I was on Lobos on Hills at HT. Where've you got that from Darlo?
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 1:00 AM BST
https://williamhill-lang.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7486/~/football-rules

Half-time market should have been settled according to these rules.
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 1:01 AM BST
Should a match be abandoned prior to the completion of 90 minutes play, all markets will be void, unless a winning market has already been established prior to abandonment e.g. first goalscorer, time of first goal, half time result etc. or unless a team is leading and the governing body declares an official result endorsing them as winners, in which case bets on the match result will be settled on the score at the time of abandonment. Other markets will be void.
Report dadio August 25, 2012 1:04 AM BST
what's BF stance about this? have they got a similar ruling
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 1:04 AM BST
Sorry, I meant I backed them at HT to win the game.
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 1:07 AM BST
Update if anybody wants it:
Tomorrow at 12 the arbitral body and the relevant commissioner will assess the pitch. If it is seen to be playable, the game will be replayed tomorrow at 16:00 (Mexican time) - if not, the game will be concluded at a later date and time. The game will kick off at 78 minutes and will start with a 2-1 scoreline.
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 1:08 AM BST
See Lobos BUAP's official twitter/facebook for that announcement.
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 1:08 AM BST

Aug 25, 2012 -- 1:04AM, MDWat wrote:


Sorry, I meant I backed them at HT to win the game.


In that case, same rule:

Should a match be abandoned prior to the completion of 90 minutes play, all markets will be void, unless a winning market has already been established prior to abandonment e.g. first goalscorer, time of first goal, half time result etc. or unless a team is leading and the governing body declares an official result endorsing them as winners, in which case bets on the match result will be settled on the score at the time of abandonment. Other markets will be void.

Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 1:09 AM BST

Aug 25, 2012 -- 1:07AM, MDWat wrote:


Update if anybody wants it:Tomorrow at 12 the arbitral body and the relevant commissioner will assess the pitch. If it is seen to be playable, the game will be replayed tomorrow at 16:00 (Mexican time) - if not, the game will be concluded at a later date and time. The game will kick off at 78 minutes and will start with a 2-1 scoreline.


So markets still stand if they re-start?

Report dadio August 25, 2012 1:17 AM BST
MDWat, if it does restart at 78min do I have to cash out again at 79mins or will I still be on a win win situation?
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 1:19 AM BST
I don't know whether anything has been voided on Betfair as my bet on this game was with WillHill which was voided. The rules state if there isn't a completed game within 3 days it will be voided. It could be completed tomorrow, therefore, my understanding is that the market would essentially just open again when the game kicks off. If it does this, markets will stand and you won't have to cash out again dadio. That's just my understanding, though, not 100%.
Report YouAreInBits August 25, 2012 1:22 AM BST
365 are still waiting for confirmation of what exactly happened. However they said if its replayed 2moro then bets will be carried over into the remaining minutes and if not it will be settled as 2-1
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 1:23 AM BST
Hills are a bit quick voiding this. Especially according to those rules above.
Report gatuc August 25, 2012 1:26 AM BST
I bet on the final result and I had under the teams:
Lobos: 25.00 (green)
Draw: 52.00 (green)
Rojos: 52.00 (green)

Is there a possibility not to get anything from that game?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 1:35 AM BST
looks like they will finish it on saturday now. i doubt it's going to keep pissing down long enough to prevent a resumption tomorrow afternoon for 10 mins. so if you have a good position in the match, you should get paid. those of us with losing positions, will lose.
Report YouAreInBits August 25, 2012 1:38 AM BST
what times it being completed at? 4pm UK time or 4pm mexican time?
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 1:44 AM BST
4pm Mexican time is the intention YAIB, about 10pm Mexican time (I think).
gatuc - so you have your stake back? If the game is not completed tomorrow or Sunday, the market will be voided. If it is completed tomorrow, the market should open again at your current stance, so if it finished 2-1, you'd win £25 less your commission.
Report gatuc August 25, 2012 1:55 AM BST
yes i got back my stake and now im waiting for the final result... its sooo annoying!! :P thanks MDWat...do you have any good bet for now?? :P :P
Report YouAreInBits August 25, 2012 1:56 AM BST
Just layed 0-0 in Philly game
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 2:02 AM BST
I'm on Rosario to beat Huracan.
Report gatuc August 25, 2012 2:08 AM BST
I did all in at Rosario but I bet also a few on Hulia Half time ;)
Report MDWat August 25, 2012 2:10 AM BST
Best of luck gatuc. Confident of a Rosario goal, no idea of the Colombian game. Stats suggest they're getting battered!
Report bigkevsaces. August 25, 2012 9:15 AM BST
any update from betfair atall? if the game gets completed today will we get paid out on winning bets?
Report soba August 25, 2012 10:25 AM BST
Nope
Report ashtonsdaddy2010 August 25, 2012 4:11 PM BST
does anyone know whats happening with this game at all?i bet on match odds
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 4:12 PM BST
yes they are finishing this off later today. so youll get paid tonight.
Report ashtonsdaddy2010 August 25, 2012 4:13 PM BST
do you know what time it starts?i'm assuming it will go in play and i can lay off?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 4:13 PM BST
10pm uk time i believe
Report superroger August 25, 2012 4:13 PM BST
But all the market will re-open today?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 4:13 PM BST
i doubt betfair will bother to turn it back in play
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 4:14 PM BST
requires too much effort for them
Report ashtonsdaddy2010 August 25, 2012 4:14 PM BST
great, cheers and good luck
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 5:43 PM BST
it will start in 1 hour and it was abandoned in 78'.. 12 minutes + injury time to play..
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 7:01 PM BST
Right seriously has this game resumed as stated?
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 7:02 PM BST
I can't find this match on any scoreboards
Report thisempty August 25, 2012 7:07 PM BST
they already played the remaining 12 minutes plus extra time and the result stayed 2-1. But betfair is still holding my money
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:11 PM BST
i dont understand this: the game will be resumed today or the game was finished?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 7:12 PM BST
resumed today and finished 2-1
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:13 PM BST
ok thanks for the info. now betfair can pay all people
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 7:13 PM BST
it was played 30 minutes ago and ended 2-1.. betfair should pay out lobos win
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:14 PM BST
and unders?
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 7:14 PM BST
call them and theyll settle

they probably dont no this was finished today yet
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:14 PM BST
i have 2 bets on u3.5 and u4.5
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:15 PM BST
ok we have to wait a little more
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 7:17 PM BST
Why do we have to wait... bf take too long on these cases! Show me the money! :)
Report superroger August 25, 2012 7:18 PM BST
I agree, but in this cases bf is very burocratic...
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 7:22 PM BST
do you really think they have been checking all today to see if some sh1t game in a sh1t minor mexican league was finished?

if you care so much ring them and alert them

nobody gives a sh1t otherwise and youll have to wait until betfair operations see the result
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 7:30 PM BST
Yeah nobody cares except for the few that have Green tied up in this match... I want my Green! :)
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 7:40 PM BST
omg when do they cash out.. -.-
Report bigkevsaces. August 25, 2012 7:50 PM BST
just spoke to betfair, they know the game has settled but they are awaiting offical conformation from the league (which should be done tonight) then everyone will be paid they didnt re-open the markets but everyones green will be honoured
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 8:47 PM BST
Excited 2 hours
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 9:02 PM BST
May be another two hours
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 9:18 PM BST
I want that ****ing money Excited are they dumb as ****?
Report Chocolate_Teapot August 25, 2012 9:24 PM BST
I need that ****ing money
Report ashtonsdaddy2010 August 25, 2012 9:34 PM BST
anyone had money back for match result bets?
Report superroger August 25, 2012 9:38 PM BST
Under 3.5 will receive the profit or just the stake?
Report bigkevsaces. August 25, 2012 9:53 PM BST
still nothing
Report gatuc August 25, 2012 10:05 PM BST
still nothing...someone to call the betfair please :(
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 10:06 PM BST
will be voided apparently the deadline has passed for an official result
Report LiverpoolUnited August 25, 2012 10:07 PM BST
the money wil;l be held for 3 days...FFS why are yew MUGs  gambling when you dont even know the rules ot Ts and Cs....still its nice to talk to the mugs who keep my bank fool
Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:07 PM BST
I always though if a game had played more than 75 mins then the result stood????
Report thisempty August 25, 2012 10:09 PM BST
isn't the deadline 3 day?
thats whats on the betfair rules.
i dont think it will be void because the remaining time was played less than 24 hours after the game.
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 10:09 PM BST
i think the rules say if the market isnt settled after 24 hours it will be void
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 10:10 PM BST
somefing like dat neway
Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:12 PM BST
The remaining time was played when? What was the final score?
Report whatupsppl August 25, 2012 10:14 PM BST
WHY THE **** ISNT MY MONEY IN?!?!?!??!?!?! IT WAS PLAYED 3 HOURS AGO TO FULLTIME AND IT ENDED 2-1!!!!
Report thisempty August 25, 2012 10:15 PM BST
It's 3 days, not 24h!!!  People have already told you the rules 1000 times!!
And i don't know why you care about this, as your bets are SETTLED!!!!!
Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:16 PM BST
Sort it out betfair! This is appalling service!!!
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 10:16 PM BST
i still hope for under 2.5 void Cool
Report thisempty August 25, 2012 10:23 PM BST
Cause you're a clown.
This has happened many times before and settled bets were never void. It's in the rules and i saw it happen a few times already. Thinking it will be different just because you had money on SETTLED bets only shows how stupid you are.

I have loosing bets in MO and CS and i wish they would be void. But unfortunately the game was finished today, and i know my money is gone.
But for you it doesn't even matter if unsettled markets will be void or not because your bets were SETTLED. People have explained this to you countless times during this topic, i never saw dumber person, ffs!
Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:26 PM BST
Forgive me but can u help? I backed lobos at half time so will I get the win bet or just my stake back?
Report thisempty August 25, 2012 10:29 PM BST
If they have official confirmation of the full time score, you'll get the win bet.
There's 99% chance of betfair getting the official confirmation. The game was done 3 hours ago, i don't think it will take 48h more for betfair to have official confirmation. That would be unfair to people with winning bets. Even though it would suit me just fine :P
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 10:32 PM BST

Aug 25, 2012 -- 10:07PM, LiverpoolUnited wrote:


the money wil;l be held for 3 days...FFS why are yew MUGs

Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:32 PM BST
Thank u for replying to me mate
Report Darlo Bantam August 25, 2012 10:44 PM BST
This is now just one of four completed markets I'm waiting to be settled. Maybe they've got their entire team trying to find the result and forgotten to settle other markets.
Report razmando August 25, 2012 10:49 PM BST
Any one phoned betfair on this?!
Report EnvyMyGreen August 25, 2012 10:51 PM BST
void pls
Report discursive August 25, 2012 11:02 PM BST
so is it voided?
Report pauloguim August 25, 2012 11:21 PM BST
...
Report dadio August 25, 2012 11:26 PM BST
How can it be void, initially played more than 70% of game now replayed today and concluded, no excuses now betfair pay us our cash...
Report Darlo Bantam August 26, 2012 12:02 AM BST
Three down. One to go.
Report razmando August 26, 2012 12:04 AM BST
just this one i take it Bantam?
Report Darlo Bantam August 26, 2012 12:13 AM BST
Yep.
Report whatupsppl August 26, 2012 12:29 AM BST
wow.. still nothing.. I want my money + green on lobos.. like the rules are saying it...
Report razmando August 26, 2012 12:30 AM BST
i backed Labos at halftime at 5.19! i want my winnings tooooo
Report Emboogie August 26, 2012 12:33 AM BST
i also need my winnings on U3.5 i wonder why its taking so long to settle
Report razmando August 26, 2012 12:34 AM BST
someone needs to ring betfair
Report Emboogie August 26, 2012 12:35 AM BST

Aug 26, 2012 -- 12:34AM, razmando wrote:


someone needs to ring betfair


lol..why don't you do that?

Report razmando August 26, 2012 12:35 AM BST
no credit or i would :-(
Report Emboogie August 26, 2012 12:37 AM BST
then don't worry bets would be settled within 2 days
Report razmando August 26, 2012 8:41 AM BST
still nothing..........
Report superroger August 26, 2012 9:18 AM BST
still waitting...
Report razmando August 26, 2012 10:03 AM BST
very poor
Report bettar August 26, 2012 10:23 AM BST
payout time
Report themover August 26, 2012 10:24 AM BST
settled Cool
Report Emboogie August 26, 2012 10:25 AM BST
money Happysettled
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