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tiny dave
22 Aug 12 15:34
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great bit of business wolves

fletcher will do sunderland a decent job but is nowhere near a 14m striker
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Report freddiek August 24, 2012 11:43 AM BST
oh, pity. would have been nice to sign someone with talent
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 11:44 AM BST
and he has been relegated twice with teams....the 12 goals were mostly against cr@p teams with 2 goals coming against United/Arsenal where wolves got hammered.
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 11:45 AM BST
we all have opinions.......lets see what happens with the new 14m pound hitman
Report sweetchildofmine August 24, 2012 11:48 AM BST
gota feeling he will fare better than your own 35m ermm hit man lol
Report sweetchildofmine August 24, 2012 11:49 AM BST
and dont get me started on hendersons fee or joe allon
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 11:49 AM BST
im a united fan so not sure what you are on about.
Report sweetchildofmine August 24, 2012 11:49 AM BST
sorry der der its freddie thats the liverpool fan doh
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 11:51 AM BST
i do think the Torres/Carroll deal has made the world a little mad, but saying that the Henderson deal was also stupid wasnt it.  There has always been inflated prices for English players but what i don't get about Fletcher/Allen is they are not English.
Report anth699 August 24, 2012 12:10 PM BST
md49vd
22 Aug 12


md49vd
22 Aug 12 17:47   











fletcher and saha going to fire them into the championship

what is even more ridiculous now is the 8 mil they spent on conor wickham (the next great english striker) my arse.



exactly!
Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:23 PM BST

Aug 24, 2012 -- 11:31AM, Daveyboymoyes wrote:


Hope Sunderland and West Ham both go down nowAwful deals, patetic management only bettered by KD last season with the signings of Downing, Henderson and CarrollThe world has gone mad!!


better than this jellyfish mug

Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:23 PM BST

Aug 24, 2012 -- 11:41AM, der_der_73 wrote:


Fuller, Nolan, Carew all scored 12 goals in the prem in the past few years...........scoring 12 goals in one season doesn't say much about the quality of player does it.


will help you out with this from the article

Fletcher is one of only a dozen players to have scored 30 Premier League goals in the past three seasons and one of only three to have done so at a club that has not played in the UEFA Champions League during that period.

Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:24 PM BST
Fletcher will have a field day with Johnson and Larsson supplying the crossing
Report grayhawk August 24, 2012 12:26 PM BST
aaronh...If Johnson signs Larsson will rarely be playing....it will be McClean and Johnson.
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 12:26 PM BST

Aug 24, 2012 -- 12:23PM, aaronh wrote:


Aug 24, 2012 -- 11:41AM, der_der_73 wrote:Fuller, Nolan, Carew all scored 12 goals in the prem in the past few years...........scoring 12 goals in one season doesn't say much about the quality of player does it.will help you out with this from the articleFletcher is one of only a dozen players to have scored 30 Premier League goals in the past three seasons and one of only three to have done so at a club that has not played in the UEFA Champions League during that period.


brilliant, he still got relegated twice, the article is very pro Fletcher, not balanced argument is it?  When a player starts to score 20 goals then i will take notice, i have highlighted any muppet can score 10-12 goal in the prem.

Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:27 PM BST
Laugh
Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:28 PM BST
when was the last time a relegated player scored 20 goals?

fwiw, Wolves would still have gone down even if he'd have scored 20 goals
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 12:32 PM BST
i never said anything about a relegated player scoring 20 goals.
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 12:32 PM BST
Please take off your blinkers.  he is an average player who will nick a few goals, i would want more for 14m....he is worth 7m tops.
Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:33 PM BST
you're saying you won't pay attention unless Fletcher scores 20 goals..

3 players did that last season, let's ignore all the others Excited
Report aaronh August 24, 2012 12:34 PM BST
and only two (just barely) did it the season before
Report der_der_73 August 24, 2012 12:34 PM BST
like i said, take your blinkers off.
Report NyronNosworthy August 24, 2012 11:57 PM BST

Aug 23, 2012 -- 4:43PM, mr crisp wrote:


how many goals will 14m fletcher getsunderland were the only team in the entire football league not to get a single corner never mind a goalgood luck to him he'll need it


Anyone have any idea what this jibbering simpleton is on about?

Report Analyst August 25, 2012 12:27 AM BST
He's lower end Premiership player - £8m for me
Report mr crisp August 25, 2012 1:06 AM BST
last saturday nyron you thickett you've got to go forward to score goals in simple terms
you've got to venture into your opponents half to have a chance of scoring
let explain its simply to you every other team in the football league managed to win at least one corner except sunderland they must be a great example of attacking football i dont think you'll get a very good return on your investment but by all means live in hope
Report audsen August 25, 2012 1:59 AM BST
You can find decent players cheap. The west brom side that started against liverpool( and beat em 3-0) cost less than joe allen apparently... now thats good buisness
Report jermaine defonebox August 25, 2012 9:10 AM BST
Must be the most inflated price in football history
Useless last year  shocking attitude too ugly too sell shirts 
I'm on Sunderland for relegation
Report Barca-Martillo September 1, 2012 3:41 PM BST
Laugh
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:41 PM BST
CoolCool
Report der_der_73 September 1, 2012 3:42 PM BST
wow he has scored a goal, long way to go before that justifies the price tag
Report Crisp77 September 1, 2012 3:43 PM BST
Sounds like he couldn't miss
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:45 PM BST
no doubt you will be saying that every week after he keeps scoring Sad
Report Barca-Martillo September 1, 2012 3:46 PM BST
Der brain seething
Report der_der_73 September 1, 2012 3:48 PM BST
why? 1 goal lads, came down.  I said on another thread that Carroll will be a great signing for West Ham, he played great today but i havent gone back to the forum to gloat after 1 game, you lot are the type to declare the prem winners after 2 weeks!
Report Crisp77 September 1, 2012 3:52 PM BST
Another tap in
Report Crisp77 September 1, 2012 3:52 PM BST
Already scored more than Bendtner did last season LaughLaugh
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:53 PM BST
2
Report berto77 September 1, 2012 3:53 PM BST
Laugh

Bargain Laugh
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Time will tell but i will take a punt Fletcher will not get over 10 goals

i am sure Fletcher will cope with scoring 8 in 34
Report TheEdd September 1, 2012 3:54 PM BST
great player
Report Barca-Martillo September 1, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Der

Thing is £14m £12m whatever it was doesn't matter overall if he does his job he is a decent player like I have said all along I don't need the fact he scored today to judge that I've based it on what I have seen of him at Wolves and Burnley.
Report der_der_73 September 1, 2012 3:55 PM BST
and what i saw of him at Burnley and Wolves i say he is a decent average player
Report grayhawk September 1, 2012 3:56 PM BST
Crisp77 01 Sep 12 15:52 Joined: 08 Feb 02 | Topic/replies: 28,064 | Blogger: Crisp77's blog
Already scored more than Bendtner did last season


He's already been in the box more than Bendtner did all last season.

First one was a good finish...looked like a finisher Happy
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:57 PM BST
Fletcher scored double figures in each of three seasons for two really **** teams
Report aaronh September 1, 2012 3:57 PM BST
Sunderland actually look capable of not being useless mugs and Fletcher/Sunderland will both benefit
Report der_der_73 September 1, 2012 4:02 PM BST

Sep 1, 2012 -- 3:54PM, aaronh wrote:


Time will tell but i will take a punt Fletcher will not get over 10 goalsi am sure Fletcher will cope with scoring 8 in 34


maths not your game is it................that would be 9

Report Just Checking September 1, 2012 10:31 PM BST
Two goals on his debut? Not a bad start!
Report Crisp77 September 1, 2012 10:33 PM BST
He never seems to score winning goals though Plain
Report Just Checking September 1, 2012 10:36 PM BST
You can only score goals really, how often they are winners depends on the whole team and who you're playing shurely.
Report aaronh September 8, 2012 4:53 PM BST
Scotland looking brilliant attacking wise without him as usual Plain
Report Crisp77 September 8, 2012 4:54 PM BST
They were lucky to get nil
Report tiny dave September 9, 2012 10:36 AM BST
As I said fletch will be very decent for Sunderland but no way 14m evn at 25 he has no resale value in move IMO
Report Captain Christy September 9, 2012 12:05 PM BST
He's probably worth 10m or so, so quibbling over the odd 4m is nonsense when that would just about get you a squad player these days.
Report Barca-Martillo September 9, 2012 1:58 PM BST
Why do they want resale value they signed him because they want him to play for them not to sell for profit.The fee was actually £12m anyway so like the guy said in post above quibbling over a few mill isn't worth it.
Report high_lander September 9, 2012 2:13 PM BST
goalscorers always carry a premium - I would say Carroll's 32 million was the most ridiculous price ever in the history of football. Fletcher's 14 million looks very reasonable by comparison. I think Fletcher is the better player of the two.
Report tiny dave September 9, 2012 2:15 PM BST
Having seen both I rate Carroll very highly just pool didn't play to his strengths, fletcher is at his level will do superb job at Sunderland

As for price it was 12m 2m add ons so 14m as apperance an top10 related which should happen
Report HansUlrichApfelStrudel September 15, 2012 6:00 PM BST
BARGAIN Crazy
Report aaronh September 15, 2012 6:07 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report aaronh September 15, 2012 6:08 PM BST
time for der der to come along seething shortly
Report aaronh September 15, 2012 9:11 PM BST
Fletcher has 3 goals in 4 shots
Report Crisp77 September 15, 2012 9:16 PM BST
has he ever scored a winning goal? Again Leigh Griffiths outshone him today.
Report aaronh September 22, 2012 3:10 PM BST
ttt
Report Crisp77 September 22, 2012 3:11 PM BST
Cry
Report Barca-Martillo September 22, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Cry
Report Crisp77 September 22, 2012 3:56 PM BST
I think he could be one of the first players to get an Internaational manager the sack by not playing for the country.
Report Barca-Martillo September 22, 2012 3:57 PM BST
That wouldn't be a bad thing crisp Woy is rather boring
Report Crisp77 September 22, 2012 4:06 PM BST
Agreed Barca
Report aaronh September 22, 2012 8:55 PM BST
still no winning goalShocked
Report HansUlrichApfelStrudel September 22, 2012 9:05 PM BST
Yes it is clearly Fletcher's fault he plays with teams with such sh1t defences with players like Bramble and Berra in them.
Report Solano1 September 22, 2012 9:07 PM BST
No P/L win in 12 for MoN.

Their most successful post-war manager got sacked with a better record than that.

Had MoN been a Geordie he'd have been in real trouble by now.
Report Geesyerdosh September 22, 2012 9:12 PM BST
I'm not one for players dictating to the country but we're bloody desperate.

If Craig Levein wants to hang on to his job he needs to contact Fletcher and get it sorted.


We've got Kenny Miller up front ffs Cry
Report Slim Pickens September 22, 2012 9:22 PM BST
he is not dictating thats fecking baws, levein is a coock who took the hump after fletcher tweeted the fect that he was available to play in the no striker game when the **** had stated there where none available, then fletcher after returning from 3 monts inured asked to be excused a friendly as he wanted to concentrate his efforts on helping wolves stay up, levein stropped and that was that, he has never once said that he wouldnt play for his country
Report Geesyerdosh September 22, 2012 9:28 PM BST
Who's right and who's wrong doesnt really matter bottom line is we're gonna miss another tournament and the more we miss the further we slip down the pots and the harder it gets.

We need our best players and Fletchers one of them.
Report Crisp77 September 22, 2012 9:30 PM BST
They should apologise to Fletcher now that Leigh Griffiths is injured.
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 4:09 PM BST
TTT
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 4:11 PM BST
Will it be the winning goal?
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 4:15 PM BST
Laugh i should think so
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 5:00 PM BST
winner Shocked
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 6:25 PM BST
Shocked
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 6:26 PM BST
Well Sako has replaced Jarvis nicely. We just need a £3m version of Fletcher.
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 7:05 PM BST
Siggy CoolConfused
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 7:37 PM BST
Siggy looks like a bit of class but I don't have him down as a 20 goal a season man. Although hopefully Ebanks-Blake will be fine for this season.
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 9:42 PM BST
yes should be fine for this league
Report aaronh September 29, 2012 9:44 PM BST
what happened to der der?
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 9:53 PM BST
Mischief
Report Barca-Martillo September 29, 2012 10:08 PM BST

Sep 29, 2012 -- 9:44PM, aaronh wrote:


what happened to der der?


Probably emailing betfair to get his posts removed especially the one where he said Fletcher will not get more than 10 goals this season.

Interesting how the OP said no where near worth £14m I think he has has been proved wrong now also.

Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 10:54 PM BST
Agreed Barca. We have all been made to look like a bunch of Craig Levein's.
Report Barca-Martillo September 29, 2012 11:16 PM BST
Just checked his wiki profile he was born in England someone needs to tell Woy it's a disgrace him ignoring this kind of scoring form.
Report Crisp77 September 29, 2012 11:26 PM BST
Best striker to come out of Shrewsbury since Luke Rodgers IMO
Report jermaine defonebox September 30, 2012 11:14 AM BST
I was wrong thought he wasn't worth £14   Still doubt he will stay at this level he's a miserable f ucker and he won't sell shirts cause of how he looks
Report high_lander September 30, 2012 1:23 PM BST
So being a pretty boy and selling shirts is more important than scoring goals?
Report berto77 September 30, 2012 1:54 PM BST
I thought he was £5m or £6m over priced but got it badly wrong.  My humiliation will be compounded if Jarvis turns into the new Cristiano Ronaldo under Big Sam's sophisticated management.
Report brngtwt October 1, 2012 8:46 PM BST
http://twitpic.com/b05rob

you can prove anything with facts....
Report aaronh October 9, 2012 4:13 PM BST
player of the month
Report Crisp77 October 9, 2012 9:22 PM BST
Behave. He's only touched the ball about 10 ties in that month. Mischief
Report Crisp77 October 9, 2012 9:22 PM BST
times Cry
Report sickoflayinwinners October 9, 2012 11:59 PM BST
i cant have it that this guy mansell gets a living outta playing darts.hes not very good is he.
Report aaronh January 19, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
der_der_73 • August 24, 2012 11:03 AM BST
Time will tell but i will take a punt Fletcher will not get over 10 goals


Shocked
Report TheChaser January 19, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
arronh you mugLaugh
Report morpteh mackem January 19, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
second goal , lovely finish
Report grayhawk January 19, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
Mick McCarthy was right...this lad is a top player......an excellent finisher.
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