Is 1.01 profitable?

Rodn

1.01 will be profitable for you only if you deem the real odds to be below it and you are proven right long term.

If you just back all 1.01 under the moon you're going to end up making a loss overall.

PS: If you go all-in everytime you definitely will go bust eventually no matter how well "researched" your bet is.

Not much more can be said, this sums it up perfectly.

Good luck with the experiment.

100% profit with a full bank bet each time at 1.01 is 74 bets inclusive of the 5% I think. As Rodn said it will only be profitable if the real odds are less.

A few people have tried similar ideas to this over the years, don't know if there is a record for correct 1.01's in a row but I seem to remember the record for 1.01-1.05 (may have been 1.07) bets was around the 250 mark, but that may be well out.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1,01.

Thank you, guys, let the luck be on my side

hope u cont' to do well with this, don't do it with icelandic games!

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.

As a general rule I look up the thread and see if buzzer or 1.01 layer have commented yet.

They haven't so I won't either.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,85$.
Bet 17. Kalmar FF - Cliftonville 3-0, U6.5, 5,85$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,85$.
Bet 17. Kalmar FF - Cliftonville 3-0, U6.5, 5,85$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,91$.
Bet 18. FK Senica - MTK Budapest 0-1, U4.5, 5,91$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,85$.
Bet 17. Kalmar FF - Cliftonville 3-0, U6.5, 5,85$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,91$.
Bet 18. FK Senica - MTK Budapest 0-1, U4.5, 5,91$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,97$.
Bet 19. NK Celje - Dacia Chisinau 0-1, U3.5, 5,97$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,85$.
Bet 17. Kalmar FF - Cliftonville 3-0, U6.5, 5,85$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,91$.
Bet 18. FK Senica - MTK Budapest 0-1, U4.5, 5,91$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,97$.
Bet 19. NK Celje - Dacia Chisinau 0-1, U3.5, 5,97$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,03$.
Bet 20. Honved - Flamurtari 2-0, U5.5, 6,03$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-10: Bank 5$ --> 5,50$.
Bet 11. Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i - Jeju Utd 1-1, U6.5, 5,50$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 5,56$.
Bet 12. Gombak - Balestier Khalsa 0-0, U4.5, 5,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 5,62$.
Bet 13. FC Ordabasy - Jagodina 0-0, U7.5, 5,62$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,68$.
Bet 14. Metalurg Skopje - Birkirkara 0-0, U4.5, 5,68$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 5,74$.
Bet 15. Gomel - Vikingur Gota 0-0, U5.5, 5,74$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,80$.
Bet 16. Zimbru Chisinau - Bangor City 2-1, U5.5, 5,80$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,85$.
Bet 17. Kalmar FF - Cliftonville 3-0, U6.5, 5,85$ at 1.01. Won (4-0). Bank - 5,91$.
Bet 18. FK Senica - MTK Budapest 0-1, U4.5, 5,91$ at 1.01. Won (2-1). Bank - 5,97$.
Bet 19. NK Celje - Dacia Chisinau 0-1, U3.5, 5,97$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,03$.
Bet 20. Honved - Flamurtari 2-0, U5.5, 6,03$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6.09$.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01.

jesus u have to much time on your hands

donut, do you envy?

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01.

Andrew, stop wasting your time and consider the facts...

If you bet 1.01 on a high liquidity market, you'll be taking what is generally a true 1.01 chance, ie, 1 in 100 times it will get beat, very long term you will end up level, less commission = well down on the deal.

If you take a 1.01 bet on a low liquidity market, you'll be almost certainly taking under the odds and will lose long term before commission.

Either way, you lose. Why do you think you will win betting blind at 1.01 rather than any other price? Do you think you'd win long term betting blind at evens? Its the same principle, just with 1.01 you get much longer winning runs.

Winning money is hard damn work, there arent any easy ways on here. Good luck.

I agree with you fairweather its happened with me already it seeems like your making profit but there is always a game that goes wrong when playing blind. good luck with 1.01 im not playing that type of game any more unless im whatching the game live.

fairweather, Thank you for advice, but I'm not wasting my time and I don't look for profit, just doing it for fun and trying to make the winning streak as long as possible, no more than that.

I admire your steadfast experiment Andrew, but fairweather is right, it's a lot of hard work for little reward. I'd much rather try and double my bank on 1 even money shot and green out or cash out depending on how things go. Good luck anyway mate.

He started with a fiver and he's doing it for a laugh, can't believe he's actually getting criticism over this, i hope he gets to at least 100 bets.

Yeah biscuit, I hope he does make it too, think I would have lost interest myself by now though!

he's probably wishing he'd started with 500 instead of 5

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6.27$.

Stev01878, Biscuit, thank you, guys, and no, I am non wishing I'd started with 500$, too much money for entertaiment is not good

I disagree with the opinion that on a 100/1 shot you'll end up losing once in every 100 attempts. It's purely random. If you had a 100 white marbles & one black marble, put them in a bag, & took out one. The odds of picking out the black marble will always be 100/1 regardless of how many times you do it. You could pick it out 3 times in 50 goes. Conversely, you could get up to 1,000 attempts before you pick it out - Market liquidity is very important however, because as has already been pointed out, you're not getting true odds if there's not much money on a particular market. Your 100/1 bet might only really be worth 30 or 40/1. I'd be tempted to wait until the footie season starts. But good luck anyway.

Redrebel, right you are, though with football at betfair you still have a chance to red out, if something goes wrong and still finish with profit, which you can't do when taking out black marble

That's true mate. I was using the marble analogy for those who feel that it's inevitable that you'll lose at least once in every 100 bets. There's an infinite number of times you could carry on before you pick out a losing bet. Let's hope you've withdrawn some of your winnings before you do

have tried this....had 83 winners and only 1 loser

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (RES) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01.

so sick of Betfair pissing me about, anyone know any other decent exchange betting sites?

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i've been using Smarkets a bit recently - it's not too bad. only 2% commission, i've heard they have tech faults occasionally but it's been alrite for me so far. **** is the other big one

I use ***** too.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01.

If you care, 'zarya' in Russian and 'zorya' in Ukranian means 'dawn'

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,45$.
Bet 27. Dinamo Kiev (Res) - Metalurg D (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,45$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,45$.
Bet 27. Dinamo Kiev (Res) - Metalurg D (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,45$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,51$.
Bet 28. Bate Borisov - Torpedo BelAZ 0-0, U4.5, 6,51$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,45$.
Bet 27. Dinamo Kiev (Res) - Metalurg D (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,45$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,51$.
Bet 28. Bate Borisov - Torpedo BelAZ 0-0, U4.5, 6,51$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,58$.
Bet 29. Preussen Munster - Hannover 2-0, U6.5, 6,58$ at 1.01.

you need a streak averaging over 105 times when you include commmiisshun. you're already losing the %'s in the fractions of a penny.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,45$.
Bet 27. Dinamo Kiev (Res) - Metalurg D (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,45$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,51$.
Bet 28. Bate Borisov - Torpedo BelAZ 0-0, U4.5, 6,51$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,58$.
Bet 29. Preussen Munster - Hannover 2-0, U6.5, 6,58$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,65$.
Bet 30. Standard - Otelul Galati 1-0, U4.5, 6,65$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-20: Bank 5,00$ --> 6.09$.
Bet 21. Le Havre - Lille 0-2, U5.5, 6,09$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,15$.
Bet 22. IBV - St.Patricks 0-0, U2.5, 6,15$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,21$.
Bet 23. MFK Karvina - Podbeskidzie B-B 0-1, U6.5, 6,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,27$.
Bet 24. Tanjong Pagar Utd - Harimau Muda A 0-0, U6.5, 6,27$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 6,33$.
Bet 25. Metalist (Res) - Illychivets (Res) 0-0, U5.5, 6,33$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,39$.
Bet 26. Zorya (Res) - Metalurg Z (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,39$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 6,45$.
Bet 27. Dinamo Kiev (Res) - Metalurg D (Res) 0-0, U4.5, 6,45$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,51$.
Bet 28. Bate Borisov - Torpedo BelAZ 0-0, U4.5, 6,51$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 6,58$.
Bet 29. Preussen Munster - Hannover 2-0, U6.5, 6,58$ at 1.01. Won (2-0). Bank - 6,65$.
Bet 30. Standard - Otelul Galati 1-0, U4.5, 6,65$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 6,72$.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01.

The costs in electricity are probably greater than the profits you are making ?

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01.

Jul 13, 2012 -- 7:23PM, erse2 wrote:

you need a streak averaging over 105 times when you include commmiisshun. you're already losing the %'s in the fractions of a penny.

silly statement this
nothing works over 105 goes
least if all probability

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.

Adrewmat, working with odds as low as 1.01, u need 1000s of sample bets to prove u have an edge. i am not sure if u have any strategy to select games. without a strategy u would struggle to justify ur edge analytically, if ever u finished your experiment with a positive.
I think this will take you a significant amount of time placing a bet and publishing it here. eventhough i respect ur dedication to try, i would advise u to consider whether the time u may have to spend is worth it.

Jul 13, 2012 -- 10:31PM, hejik wrote:

Jul 13, 2012 --  7:23PM, erse2 wrote:you need a streak averaging over 105 times when you include commmiisshun. you're already losing the %'s in the fractions of a penny.silly statement thisnothing works over 105 goesleast if all probability

What? His statement was 100% factually correct.

As for the system, are you redding out when a bet turns against you to avoid losing a large percentage of your bank or are you letting all bets run?

I almost think you'd be better trying to scalp quickly falling markets rather than go for plain 1.01 shots.

darlo he isn't going to hit one loser in 100 bets
as previously stated by somebody else, could hit 3 losers in 10 or go 2500 picks before hitting a loser

probability doesn't work this way

What on earth are you on about? The statement that he needs to average winning runs of 105 to make profits is factually correct. It doesn't matter if it's a run of 10 and then a run of 200, he needs to average 105 to break even.

if he averages runs of 105 then he isn't going to make any money at all

That's why I said break even.

no you said

"The statement that he needs to average winning runs of 105 to make profits is factually correct"

I'm saying it isn't

"he needs to average 105 to break even."

Anyway, I'm not spoiling this thread any further.

henok, it actually doesn't take too much time, as I don't normally follow those matches, just post the bet and go back to my other activities, return towards the end of the match and post the result, etc.

i m not sure about 1.01m but this is profitable (friday 13th bets :DDD ) :
    2012-07-13
19:52          2012-07-13
19:19     Fixtures 13 July Lyon v Ath Bilbao / Match Odds / Ath Bilbao
Back           5.36     27.19     Won           118.45     334.27

2012-07-13
19:52          2012-07-13
18:59     Fixtures 13 July Lyon v Ath Bilbao / Match Odds / Ath Bilbao
Back           4.60     40.00     Won           144.00     215.82


2012-07-13
18:50          2012-07-13
17:17     Fixtures 13 July Lillestrom v Tromso / Match Odds / Lillestrom
Back           8.80     8.00     Won           62.40     242.02
    2012-07-13
18:50          2012-07-13
17:14     Fixtures 13 July Lillestrom v Tromso / Match Odds / Lillestrom
Back           8.00     20.00     Won           140.00     179.62

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.4, 7,00$ at 1.01.

1.01 is profitable as a lay if you can be first in the queue which is very important and a strategy used by one or two people that specialise in being first in the queue.  You'll find in several football and tennis markets, that go in running with high liquidity, that almost upon the market being added, large strategic lays using automated software will appear at 1.01 1.02 1.03 etc to be used as "keep bets" when the game goes in running.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 7,21$.
Bet 38. Tosu - FC Tokyo 0-0, U4.5, 7,21$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 7,21$.
Bet 38. Tosu - FC Tokyo 0-0, U4.5, 7,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 7,28$.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 7,21$.
Bet 38. Tosu - FC Tokyo 0-0, U4.5, 7,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 7,28$.
Bet 39. Club Brugge - Dortmund 2-1, U5.5, 7,28$ at 1.01

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 7,21$.
Bet 38. Tosu - FC Tokyo 0-0, U4.5, 7,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 7,28$.
Bet 39. Club Brugge - Dortmund 2-1, U5.5, 7,28$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,35$.
Bet 40. ADO Den Haag - KV Kortrijk 1-2, U4.5, 7,35$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-30: Bank 5,00$ --> 6,72$.
Bet 31. Lyon - Ath Bilbao 1-0, U3.5, 6,72$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 6,79$.
Bet 32. Dundalk - Shamrock Rovers 1-0, U5.5, 6,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,86$.
Bet 33. Wexford Youths - Longford 1-1, U4.5, 6,86$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 6,93$.
Bet 34. Vikingur Olafsvik - KA Akureyri 0-1, U5.5, 6,93$ at 1.01. Won (0-1). Bank - 7,00$.
Bet 35. Gwangju FC - Seongnam Ilhwa 1-1, U5.5, 7,00$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,07$.
Bet 36. Ferencvaros - Soroksar SC 4-1, U8.5, 7,07$ at 1.01. Won (5-1). Bank - 7,14$.
Bet 37. GKS Katowice - Piast Gliwice 0-0, U3.5, 7,14$ at 1.01. Won (0-0). Bank - 7,21$.
Bet 38. Tosu - FC Tokyo 0-0, U4.5, 7,21$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 7,28$.
Bet 39. Club Brugge - Dortmund 2-1, U5.5, 7,28$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,35$.
Bet 40. ADO Den Haag - KV Kortrijk 1-2, U4.5, 7,35$ at 1.01. Won (1-2). Bank - 7,42$.

Going well! ;)

Imagine you had started with a 5.000 € bank... :o

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01.

ruivmarta, thanks, I don't have so much money

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01.

2 goals now but should be fine.

Now a 3rd on 68 mins - got to hope they shut up shop now!

4th goal just over 10 mins to hang on!

squeaky bum time

Safe! No injury time.

Almost... this is really dangerous. Who would imagine a game 0-0 at HT would have 4 goals on 2nd half? Incredible!...

Jul 14, 2012 -- 5:50PM, ruivmarta wrote:

Almost... this is really dangerous. Who would imagine a game 0-0 at HT would have 4 goals on 2nd half? Incredible!...

Anything is possible in friendlies. Personally I don't think these 1.01s on friendlies have value. Too many unknowns.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 7,79$.
Bet 46. VPS - TPS 1-3, U6.5, 7,79$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 7,79$.
Bet 46. VPS - TPS 1-3, U6.5, 7,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-3). Bank - 7,87$.
Bet 47. Fortuna Sittard - VVV 0-1, U4.5, 7,87$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 7,79$.
Bet 46. VPS - TPS 1-3, U6.5, 7,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-3). Bank - 7,87$.
Bet 47. Fortuna Sittard - VVV 0-1, U4.5, 7,87$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 7,95$.
Bet 48. Nantes - Auxerre 0-0, U1.5, 7,95$ at 1.01.

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 7,79$.
Bet 46. VPS - TPS 1-3, U6.5, 7,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-3). Bank - 7,87$.
Bet 47. Fortuna Sittard - VVV 0-1, U4.5, 7,87$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 7,95$.
Bet 48. Nantes - Auxerre 0-0, U1.5, 7,95$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 8,03$.
Bet 49. Tammeka Tartu - Nomme Kalju 0-2, U4.5, 8,03$ at 1.01.

And so it ends. :(

Bets 1-40: Bank 5,00$ --> 7,42$.
Bet 41. Morecambe - Everton 0-4, U6.5, 7,42$ at 1.01. Won (1-4). Bank - 7,49$.
Bet 42. Osnabruck - Bochum 3-1, U6.5, 7,49$ at 1.01. Won (3-1). Bank - 7,56$.
Bet 43. Hereford - Yeovil 0-1, U4.5, 7,56$ at 1.01. Won (1-1). Bank - 7,63$.
Bet 44. Southend - West Ham 0-3, U4.5, 7,63$ at 1.01. Won (0-3). Bank - 7,71$.
Bet 45. CSKA Moscow - Paris St-G 0-0, U4.5, 7,71$ at 1.01. Won (2-2). Bank - 7,79$.
Bet 46. VPS - TPS 1-3, U6.5, 7,79$ at 1.01. Won (1-3). Bank - 7,87$.
Bet 47. Fortuna Sittard - VVV 0-1, U4.5, 7,87$ at 1.01. Won (0-2). Bank - 7,95$.
Bet 48. Nantes - Auxerre 0-0, U1.5, 7,95$ at 1.01. Won (1-0). Bank - 8,03$.
Bet 49. Tammeka Tartu - Nomme Kalju 0-2, U4.5, 8,03$ at 1.01. Lost (1-4). Bank - 0$.

Finally! Thank you for attention, guys, it was a real fun, now back to seriuos business

You should do a new one laying 1.01's and seeing how long you can go without winning

Looked good while it lasted. So the answer to the original question is maybe? :P

game over

so profitable is lay 1.01