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asparagus
When: 15 Jun 12 18:09
A draw is the best result as it means even if england lose tonight they'll still be guaranteed to go through if they win the last game. Arguable which is the worst result of the other two imo.
By:
martin_593114
When: 15 Jun 12 18:11
Cheers asparagus. I suppose a lot depends on their game tonight!!
By:
asparagus
When: 15 Jun 12 18:17
yes it does. as we probably need to win the group to avoid spain a draw would be very useful as it gives us a better chance of winning the group as well. Obviously we're very unlikely to make the final but avoiding spain would certainly help.
By:
curiousreader
When: 15 Jun 12 18:18
personally i'd say a ukraine win is the best possible result. assume England beat sweden we then only need 1 point from final game against a team that has already qualified and may rest players.

in answer to question if ukraine win is best result then it seems logical to assume a ukraine loss will be worst result
By:
asparagus
When: 15 Jun 12 18:29
Curiousreader, you're assuming we beat sweden. That's clearly the wrong thing to do. If Ukraine win and we lose then we are very likely to be out even if we win the last game. If this is a draw and we lose then we're still guaranteed to go through if we win the last game. Therefore i stand by my previous post that a draw has got to be the best result.
By:
the parkie
When: 15 Jun 12 18:37
The worst result for England will be if Sweden score more goals than them.
By:
thurnscoe thunder
When: 15 Jun 12 18:42
Asparagus, surely a high scoring draw would be the worst result ? 2-2 for example.

If England beat Sweden and France beat Sweden, that would mean England would need to beat the Ukraine or get a 2-2 result or higher themselves to deffo qualify.
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curiousreader
When: 15 Jun 12 18:44
asparagus i do assume we can beat sweden but surely your thinking is hoping/assuming we can beat ukraine. personally i'd give us a better chance of beating sweden tonight than trying to beat a ukraine side still needing something themselves. so i'll stick to my assessment.
By:
Outpost
When: 15 Jun 12 18:46
especially when it looks like ukraine are getting most of the dodgy decisions.
maybe UEFA want at least one of the hosts in the next round.
By:
GAZO
When: 15 Jun 12 18:48
the worst result will be if they are made to watch this game
By:
martin_593114
When: 15 Jun 12 19:16
Ukraine will be all guns blazing in the last game now!! IF England win they'll both be on three Sweden on zero and out France on four, like I said earlier tonight's game is a must win for England!!
By:
anotheronebitesthedust
When: 15 Jun 12 19:18
France 2 Ukraine 0
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Jun 12 19:24
Ukraine will be all guns blazing in the last game now!!

Ukraine appear to be rubbish though
By:
page-413
When: 15 Jun 12 19:25
england lose 12 -0 and six players break legs and backs
By:
martin_593114
When: 15 Jun 12 19:25
Sh1t or bust tho, don't forget they have two more points than England at the moment
By:
Unique19
When: 15 Jun 12 19:27
england need to top group d to avoid spain in quarters. big ask though.
By:
Just Checking
When: 15 Jun 12 19:30
Markets certainly think france win is worst.
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