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Ibrahima Sonko
09 Jun 12 22:03
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I know i do, but more this year. I feel i have more in common with ROI than England but that is probably down to my club team.

Having watched Sir Kevin Doyle since his first game for Reading he is one of my favourite ever players.

Add Stephen Hunt, Shane Long & Simon Cox then i am almost buying a shirt.

Plus i love an underdog.

Still remember ROI in the world cup in the usa, that was epic.
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Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 11:42 AM BST
Ireland out to enjoy themselves and cause no trouble.. Best of luck to them..

Sun reader alert!
Report JOCI Club June 10, 2012 11:42 AM BST
Banned_Banks 10 Jun 12 11:32 
Strange comment. Does this mean that you support all national sides that have a Stoke player in the squad?

What happens if there are transfers mid tournament? Do you change allegiances?


No, I don't have any strong thoughts at all on Ireland and don't really have any allegiances to change. There's little prospect of my home team qualifying for any major tournament finals, so not really bothered, apart from at a betting level or a Fantasy Football level. In terms of football support, I'm very much club over country.
Report jefflebowski June 10, 2012 11:47 AM BST
In twenty years following Ireland home and abroad I've never seen the irish do anything but enjoy themselves and never seen any trouble. Fair enough the delusion is a media invention mostly. Not that many Sun readers in Ireland by the way. Your attitude towards the Irish seems more akin with the average Sun reader by the way.
Report RamonSanchezPizjuan June 10, 2012 11:49 AM BST
Banned a nice thread ruined by your tripe, you obviously have a chip on your shoulder. Get a grip.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 11:51 AM BST
Banks needs to return to the horsey forum, where he is much loved.
Report RamonSanchezPizjuan June 10, 2012 11:52 AM BST
Btw Banks, have you seen Irish riot in the way the English did in Belgium and all over europe in truth. It says something when so many English want Ireland to succeed over their own country. Their are ar$eholes in both countries but you are coming across as an ignorant individual.
Report RamonSanchezPizjuan June 10, 2012 11:52 AM BST
"There"
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner June 10, 2012 11:53 AM BST
as portraying the travelling Irish support as being fun loving jokers just out for the craic.

How are they any different to what they are described? We dont make it to that many tournaments and when we do, we enjoy ourselves? Carrying bitterness around is not good for you! let it go
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 11:59 AM BST
In twenty years following Ireland home and abroad I've never seen the irish do anything but enjoy themselves and never seen any trouble. Fair enough the delusion is a media invention mostly. Not that many Sun readers in Ireland by the way. Your attitude towards the Irish seems more akin with the average Sun reader by the way.

Cagliari 1990 - Irish well behaved?

Rappongi 2002 - Got fed up of explaining to bar owners that I was English not Irish.

Dublin 1995 - I'll concede on that one!

For the record I have never bought a copy of the Sun and don't have a chip on my shoulder. What does annoy me is the way that the media build up stereotypes that are completely inaccurate.

I don't dispute that things used to be very different with England away but nowadays the demographic of the support bears little resemblence to that of 20 years ago however the media will have you believe different.

If England played Scotland I reckon the media would still portray England as trouble makers vs the Scots as happy go lucky piss heads. Complete myth.
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 12:03 PM BST
Btw Banks, have you seen Irish riot in the way the English did in Belgium

Point proven. The incidents in Charleroi were nothing but the media built it up to have been a huge incident. Ask anyone who was there and they will say the same.

Possible the worst example you could have come up with. I bet you have viewed the same 10 sec clip a million times because that is all there was.

As above I give you Cagliari 1990. The Irish didn't exactly cover themselves in glory there.
Report History Maker June 10, 2012 12:10 PM BST
I like to see the Irish do well, but not at the expense of England. I like to see the Scots, Welsh, and Norn Ironers do well too.

In this tournament, I'll be mostly rooting for whoever is higher on this list in any given game...

England
Denmark
Holland
Spain
Ireland
Sweden
France
Germany
Anyone else

All because of friends or relatives who either live in or are from said countries.
Report RamonSanchezPizjuan June 10, 2012 12:10 PM BST
Btw Banks, have you seen Irish riot in the way the English did in Belgium

Point proven. The incidents in Charleroi were nothing but the media built it up to have been a huge incident. Ask anyone who was there and they will say the same.

Possible the worst example you could have come up with. I bet you have viewed the same 10 sec clip a million times because that is all there was.


Yes as you can see below the fans were having a light ale when attacked by the police, give me strength!! Laugh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtOXiQToz64
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:14 PM BST
I support England when not playing against us, My Ma and Nana were born In Romford and Islington respectively

Who cares what happened one hundred years ago?
The only thing i dont like is glory hunting bastards like Clinton Morrisson, Mark Lawrenson, And Matt Holland

Lawro goes on tv3 or RTE and says "us" and "we" then does the same on Itv and BBC,

Matt Holland sang GSTQ In play off final 11 months after Ireland debut,

Your either Irish or English make up your mind
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:18 PM BST
To the tune of "Rule Brittania"

Clinton Morrisson's a **** he wears a ****s hat,
When Ireland came calling he didnt fancy that,

He waited and he waited but England wouldnt call,
The glory hunting bastard said im irish after all.
Report Return_Of_Dawsy June 10, 2012 12:18 PM BST
English people supporting Ireland. What utter morons these people are.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 12:20 PM BST
no different to people not from manchester supporting man u
Report freddiek June 10, 2012 12:23 PM BST
who knew the English were so upset about Clinton Morrison's defecting Mischief
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 12:23 PM BST
I was there in Charleroi and it really wan't anything more than a bit of pointless posturing and hurling of plastic chairs.

You will see far worse in any city centre on a Saturday night.

The problem here is that perception is based on news clips which do not paint a consistent picture. As I said earlier I have been to loads of games abroad and never cease to be amazed at what armchair fans see as the major incidents. Charleroi looked worse because of the water cannon. The truth is that there were virtually no German fans in the square and there was barely a punch thrown. It was a non event but looked great for the media who wanted to report trouble.

One of the worst incidents in recent years was Zurich 2003 the night before the Liechtenstein game however this never gets mentioned because it wasn't reported on as the media were all in Vaduz.

The bottom line is that if you are relying on the media to get an overview of England fan abroad you will have a ridiculously distorted view.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 12:25 PM BST
ok banks, now stop ruining a decent fred.
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:25 PM BST
Quite ironic the tripe this solano príck comes out with about the irish given he's a Geordie,
You couldn't make it up,you wouldn't know a hard days work if it slapped u in the face u little turd.
Now hurry along or you'll miss your appointment for your false tan.
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:26 PM BST
To freddie k it is a Shelbourne f.c chant, we want shels players in the ireland team rather than Clinto
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:28 PM BST
Return Of Dawsy
10 Jun 12 12:18 Joined: 21 Jul 09 | Topic/replies: 13,442 | Blogger: Return Of Dawsy's blog
English people supporting Ireland. What utter morons these people are.

Says the prick from Leicester who supports manure.
Report jefflebowski June 10, 2012 12:29 PM BST
You will see far worse in any city centre on a Saturday night.

Not in my city... or any other city i've been to. You do realise that this "bit of pointless posturing and hurling of plastic chairs" is completely unacceptable disgusting behaviour. That attitude just highlights your ridiculous mentallity.
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:30 PM BST
Banned_Banks
10 Jun 12 12:23 Joined: 29 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 212 | Blogger: Banned_Banks's blog
I was there in Charleroi and it really wan't anything more than a bit of pointless posturing and hurling of plastic chairs.

By the sounds of it,your clearly one of those little scummy thugs who see's nothing wrong with brawling.
Scum.
Report Return_Of_Dawsy June 10, 2012 12:32 PM BST
BoxFresh how about bore off with your lame trolling?


These English people supporting Ireland, would you happily go to an English pub wearing and Ireland shirt even though you are obviously English. I dont think... you would get beat up NAP.
Report 1.01Gubbed June 10, 2012 12:33 PM BST
Leighton Baines
Martin Kelly
Steve Gerrard
James Milner
Andy Carroll
Wayne Rooney

Just a selection of Irishmen playing for the current England team.
Report freddiek June 10, 2012 12:34 PM BST
must be some rough pubs in leicester, dawsy
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:36 PM BST
Dawsy if u ever had the mentality to leave your bedsit you would get beat up for been a boring cúnt.Nap (1.01)
Report Return_Of_Dawsy June 10, 2012 12:36 PM BST
Some of the best pubs in England are in Leicester fred. We are very patriotic here though and will support our home country whatever..
Report Return_Of_Dawsy June 10, 2012 12:37 PM BST
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Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:37 PM BST
is that why you support manure dawsy?very patriotic indeed.
Report Blackrock June 10, 2012 12:38 PM BST
Why on earth would i ever support Ireland? The Irish always cheer on our opponents, so why should i shout fir them.
Fu ck em.
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:42 PM BST
Blackrock
10 Jun 12 12:38 Joined: 05 Oct 10 | Topic/replies: 583 | Blogger: Blackrock's blog
[i]Why on earth would i ever support Ireland? The Irish always cheer on our opponents, so why should i shout fir them.[/b]

Nice one einstein,slightly ironic you're named after an area in ireland though.
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:44 PM BST
Also an area in USA probably England and any english speaking country imo
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:48 PM BST
"probably" great argument u dumb príck
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:50 PM BST
**** you you ****
Report VieirasaGooner June 10, 2012 12:51 PM BST
f u c k you, you t w a t
Report Solano1 June 10, 2012 12:52 PM BST
List of sensible posters so far on this thread:

1. Banned_Banks
2. Blackrock.
Report Ernie__Bert June 10, 2012 12:52 PM BST
some dopes on these forums. Shows the customers that Debtfair have. Only a handful of reasonable people, the rest are bitter and have chips on their shoulders.
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:53 PM BST
Stupid Cúnt.
Nobody likes the Brits.Nobody,and with good enough reason.
But every nation in the World loves the irish,and with good reason.
i was born in Belgium,lived in ireland for 8 years and there the nicest people u will ever meet,
all very welcoming people who live life to the full without resorting to violence.
Report Ernie__Bert June 10, 2012 12:53 PM BST
Solano1 is one dope for example..
Report Return_Of_Dawsy June 10, 2012 12:53 PM BST
Totally agree Ernie
Report tenpins June 10, 2012 12:53 PM BST
Very decent of you to exclude youself Sol Laugh
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 12:56 PM BST
Solano is a bitter Geordie who was most probably shot down by a few irish women(or men,whatever he's into) beacause he's an ugly cúnt,now he holds a grudge against the irish.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 12:57 PM BST
looks like this fred is going the way of every other fred Cry
Report Ernie__Bert June 10, 2012 12:59 PM BST
Very few good threads last that long on here ..
Report Corky June 10, 2012 1:00 PM BST
I reckon this 'let's support plucky little Ireland' Is the English at their patronising BEST.



Report jefflebowski June 10, 2012 1:01 PM BST
Only a few hours to go, c'mon the boys in green!!!!....and feck the bitters and begrudgers!
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:03 PM BST
Last time I checked Ireland was still part of the British isles, so they could also be classed as Brits - and tbh not many foreigners can tell the difference or even care.
Report Ernie__Bert June 10, 2012 1:06 PM BST
ha ha .. high-lander trying to make the thread disappear
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:11 PM BST
All this carp about foreigners hate the English love the Irish blah blah is nonsense - vast majority of them couldn't give a monkeys and cant tell the difference anyway. You are delusional if you think they give a feck.
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 1:13 PM BST
The Brits are just jealous of how little old ireland makes a show of them at every major tournament in how to behave on and off the pitch
Report Blackrock June 10, 2012 1:16 PM BST
Boxfresh - i have lived in Ireland also and believe you me they hate the Brtish with a passion. Granted, they are some lovely people there, but when push comes to shove History is always brought into it.
For what its worth i only support England, and dont give a feck apart from that.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:17 PM BST
I'm Scottish and If I am Brit then so are you. You are from the British Isles = Brit

Croatia didn't inflict Jedward on us you did Angry

C'mon Croatia thrash these Brits Grin
Report freddiek June 10, 2012 1:18 PM BST
looks like a bad day at blackrock
Report Crisp77 June 10, 2012 1:19 PM BST

Jun 10, 2012 -- 12:57PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


looks like this fred is going the way of every other fred


They've ruined it Sonko Sad

Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 1:20 PM BST
Me too blackrock,i dont hate the brits but when you get a few coming on here having a few sly digs at a country like ireland its hard not to,most people hate them because  their footballing fans,nothing else,there a bunch of thugs who disgrace the country,
The cricket and Rugby fans never get in trouble when they follow their team all over the world.just the thuggish football fans.
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 1:20 PM BST
The Brits are just jealous of how little old ireland makes a show of them at every major tournament in how to behave on and off the pitch

I'm afraid that is just a media produced lie. Were you in Cagliari in 1990? Do you think the Irish behaved well off the pitch?

What about Tokyo 2002? Do you think their behaviour in the bars of Rappongi was appreciated by the Japenese?

I bet you weren't even there and just rely on what the baised media tell you. It is the same at every tournament. The English are bad news (completely outdated stereotype), the Irish are full of the joys of Spring (about as accurate as claiming all Irish are one step removed from Leprechauns), and the Scots are happy pissheads who know where to draw the line (really?).

If you travel to games or tournaments abroad your view will reflect reality not what you are told is reality.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:21 PM BST
Jedward



'nuff said
Report Crisp77 June 10, 2012 1:21 PM BST
Best fishing thread in awhile though Sonko...you played a blinder here Love
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 1:22 PM BST
certainly brings out the haters
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 1:22 PM BST
high_lander ive no idea if u are just thick or maybe you will claim your "fishing" to save the embarrassment,but i dont recall ireland compeating under the Great Britain name at any olympic game.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:23 PM BST
Ireland have a lot to answer for.
Report hoops48 June 10, 2012 1:24 PM BST
Its the republic of Ireland ya mug. Lots of people died for it. No wonder everyone hates the English with your disgusting history.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:25 PM BST
The Olympics is how you define your nationality?

And you call me thick.
Report lustrumm June 10, 2012 1:25 PM BST
TBH most Paddies cheer against the English just for a bit of craic. At the end of the day as soon as Ireland knocked out most of us will be cheering on England or at the very least the team that is playing the best football.
The Celtic/Rangers thing is a minority and as for Northern Irish History most of the fans Blackrock refers to were not even born at the times of the troubles so it means nothing to them.

FWIW in the 30 years or so I have been following Ireland, England have never beaten Ireland in a competitive Senior International. That statistic is sweet as a nut for me no denying that
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:30 PM BST
Come on Croatia Grin
Report BoxFresh June 10, 2012 1:31 PM BST
Come on Scotland CrazyGrin
Report Blackrock June 10, 2012 1:32 PM BST
Lustrumm - must disagree mate. Most Irish people will cheer for Englands opponents , then come start of next season its Go on Wayne or great goal Stevie.
Report BARNEY21. June 10, 2012 1:37 PM BST
All the Celtic support will be rooting for Ireland always do,England would get more support if they came out and played the game the way it should be played instead of hiding behind a wall trying to steal something from the game,with players like Rooney"all Irish" Cole and a few other good players in their ranks why do they play 10 behind the ball,other than Spain/pos France there,s no real quality teams so c,mon England for once play with a bit of "derring do".
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 10, 2012 1:39 PM BST
I don't get it. Why should anyone English want the Irish to win any more, for example, than they would want the French to win? Where is that spurious link the media peddle between Britain and Ireland? As far as I can see the link is one of violence and resentment. As someone else said, I would support Scotland to win against Ireland, because of their British status. I am not a big England fan or anything like that - the fact that most of the players have huge egos and act like overpaid children does not endear me to support them.
Report GOD- June 10, 2012 1:39 PM BST
Ireland fans cheer on their English heroes on their arrival to Poland , in true British fashion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmjtyF62wUo&feature=related
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:39 PM BST
Report GOD- June 10, 2012 1:39 PM BST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmjtyF62wUo&feature=related
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 10, 2012 1:40 PM BST
And nor do I want Croatia to win either. Their overpatriotic sentiment is sickening.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 1:41 PM BST
Report gawdalmighty June 10, 2012 1:43 PM BST
1.01Gubbed

10 Jun 12 12:33 Joined: 18 Apr 11 | Topic/replies: 64 | Blogger: 1.01Gubbed's blog

Leighton Baines
Martin Kelly
Steve Gerrard
James Milner
Andy Carroll
Wayne Rooney

Just a selection of Irishmen playing for the current England team.


Not sure about the other but Gerrard has No Irish roots pal.
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 1:49 PM BST
FWIW in the 30 years or so I have been following Ireland, England have never beaten Ireland in a competitive Senior International. That statistic is sweet as a nut for me no denying that

I assume you are counting the 1988 victory but not the 1985 defeat despite it being less than 30 years ago.

To be fair there have only been 6 games in 30 years and one of those was abandoned so one win nearly 25 years ago plus 3 draws and a defeat isn't really cause for celebration.

Add to that 2 of the draws formed part of a failed qualification attempt for Euro 92 for Ireland and I think that all in all it isn't very spectacular.

Perhaps you should invite England to play at the Aviva. That would make for an interesting weekend!
Report freddiek June 10, 2012 1:53 PM BST
why??

england fans tried to wreck it last time they were asked over

i think the right and proper thing to do is the FA invite the irish to wemberley for a friendly

and have a pre-match apology read out by roy hodgson
Report metaphor June 10, 2012 1:55 PM BST
i'm not supporting ireland, why the should i??? they hate us anyway, if you are english and support ireland then you are a fool.
Report metaphor June 10, 2012 2:04 PM BST
BREAKING NEWS; IRISH THUGS ARE RIOTING IN POZNAN RIGHT NOW!
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 2:05 PM BST
why??

england fans tried to wreck it last time they were asked over

i think the right and proper thing to do is the FA invite the irish to wemberley for a friendly

and have a pre-match apology read out by roy hodgson


Pathetic wind up.

Talking of the 1995 fixture do you think it would have been abandoned if it wasn't a friendly? I was at the game and they were very quick to call it off. There have been much worse scenes at games that have carried on.
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 2:08 PM BST
BREAKING NEWS; IRISH THUGS ARE RIOTING IN POZNAN RIGHT NOW!

If it had been England this would have been headline news. I accept that it appears to have been started by teh Poles but there were Irish arrests.

So much for the "whenever have you seen trouble with Ireland at tournaments" myth.
Report RamonSanchezPizjuan June 10, 2012 2:08 PM BST
metaphor Joined: 03 Jul 10
Replies: 2080 10 Jun 12 14:04 
BREAKING NEWS; IRISH THUGS ARE RIOTING IN POZNAN RIGHT NOW!


Making up for the lack of English travelling to the Euros.
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 2:10 PM BST
Irish fans are fighting with Croatian fans in Poland, it was on the news just now.
Report louie87 June 10, 2012 2:10 PM BST
were you one of the hard men throwing seats down at the home fans Banks?

Quick to call off Laugh  ffs you disgraced yourselves and this is coming from someone who loves the country of england.  If irish fans behaved like that I'd be the first to condemn them rather than attempt to make pathetic excuses
Report high_lander June 10, 2012 2:13 PM BST
Fans fight in Poznan ahead of Croatia-Ireland game
Today at 14:29     | Associated Press
POZNAN, Poland — Polish police say they have arrested 14 football fans involved in a brawl that broke out overnight ahead of the European Championship match between Ireland and Croatia.   

The fighting, which involved glass bottles and chairs being thrown, took place around 1 a.m. Sunday on the main square of Poznan.

A police official, Andrzej Borowiak, said police detained 10 Poles, three Irish fans and one Croat, and were still trying to determine what role they had in the fight.

Video footage showed chairs toppled on the square and police arriving in force to make arrests.

Ireland and Croatia meet for their first Group C match at Euro 2012 later Sunday.

The violence comes after Russia fans attacked stadium stewards Friday night in Wroclaw.


Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/euro2012/general/detail/129174/#ixzz1xObNZ0OQ
Report freddiek June 10, 2012 2:15 PM BST
you know what the croats are like, bit nutty
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner June 10, 2012 2:18 PM BST
"premeditated attack by Lech ultras on rivals attached to Dynamo Zagreb, with Irish fans caught in the middle"

Stop spreading sh it moron
Report Banned_Banks June 10, 2012 2:20 PM BST
were you one of the hard men throwing seats down at the home fans Banks?


No. In fact I reckon no more than about a couple of dozen people threw anything. Not quite the scale of riot it was portrayed as.

Quick to call off Laugh  ffs you disgraced yourselves and this is coming from someone who loves the country of england.  If irish fans behaved like that I'd be the first to condemn them rather than attempt to make pathetic excuses

Not sure where I have made any excuses. I merely commented that the authorities were quick to abandon the game. I have stood in grounds in East Europe with fans throwing concrete lumps at the England end, firing flares at us and trying to smash down the fences to get at us and the games haven't even been halted let alone abandonded.
Report louie87 June 10, 2012 2:34 PM BST
a bit overly simplistic of me to suggest all the fans disgraced themselves when of course it was just a minority but I'd say it was easily grounds to call the game off.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 4:26 PM BST
what is kevin doyle doing behind gordon strachan
Report Corky June 10, 2012 4:30 PM BST
Most of the forum seem to be Irish fanboys for the day. How come Ireand are drifting with all this support ?
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 8:07 PM BST
were off and running Love
Report Crisp77 June 10, 2012 8:36 PM BST
I've just put my Internet order for a replica shirt on hold
Report Crisp77 June 10, 2012 8:56 PM BST
Sh1t.

This means that I've got to support England now Sad
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 10, 2012 8:56 PM BST
bad times
Report Solano1 June 10, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Cheer up Crisp.

At least England's squad isn't full of Wolves and Sunderland players. Devil
Report dr . atkins June 10, 2012 8:59 PM BST
the trouble with ireland is its a round ball
Report Crisp77 June 10, 2012 9:02 PM BST

Jun 10, 2012 -- 8:57PM, Solano1 wrote:


Cheer up Crisp.At least England's squad isn't full of Wolves and Sunderland players.


Laugh

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