Jun 7, 2012 -- 2:19PM, BoxFresh wrote:
Would someone care to explain why Ukraine are shorter to get out of group D than Sweden are??absolutely laughable,Sweden are so under rated it really is incredible
Home country I guess.
Jun 7, 2012 -- 4:51PM, ianhamilton. wrote:
england to get 2 point, 12-1
^^^ intresting^^^^
2 points = 2 draws and a defeat. if the defeat was to France, with the other 2 games the draws, the odds are 27.7 as an acca.
Jun 7, 2012 -- 4:48PM, viva el presidente! wrote:
trouble is it's so hard to gauge the value of hosting these things.last time when it was co-hosted austria and switzerland both failed to get out of their groups. but iirc, till then every host had made at least the semis.so yeah, I can imagine ukraine crashing and burning. but I wouldn't bank on it.
South Korea surprised everyone in 2002, Portugal got to final in '04 as did Germany in '06 but the trend has been broken. African teams did brutal for example two years ago when they had the support of an entire continent behind them. Because Ukraine is a fairly familiar spot for most international sides in Europe, I don't think the environment will intimidate opposition any more than it would do under normal circumstances (e.g. in a Euro or world cup qualifier).
I also think Ukraine are a pretty average side and it's reflected in their form, their ranking and their odds. Odds are slightly distorted because of home advantage but that mattered nout when France & Sweden beat them less than a year ago. Nothing has changed.
Jun 7, 2012 -- 6:42PM, Glossy wrote:
Best 2 bets of the tournament come on the opening day:Poland win @ 5/4Russia win @ 11/10Anything above evens is fantastic value. Get on the singles and the double. You won't see 2 better bets all tournament.
Poland will not win the group. I think they are the worst team on the tournament, sorry but this is true. Russia take 9 points, Czech or Greece will place 2nd
Jun 8, 2012 -- 1:34AM, Loser13 wrote:
Jun 8, 2012 -- 12:42AM, Glossy wrote:Best 2 bets of the tournament come on the opening day:Poland win @ 5/4Russia win @ 11/10Anything above evens is fantastic value. Get on the singles and the double. You won't see 2 better bets all tournament.Poland will not win the group. I think they are the worst team on the tournament, sorry but this is true. Russia take 9 points, Czech or Greece will place 2nd
what if i told u greece would win back in 2004? you would mortgage your house to lay it. Anything can happen in a knock out tournament like the euros, luck plays a big part. And if you look at the team of poland carefully, its not a bad team. In fact, it reminds me of the greek team in 2004. And lewandowski is a very potent striker as well. People always look at teams on paper but when it comes to tournaments, team spirit, cohesiveness, bonding, etc plays a huge part which is why england has always underachieved even with a strong team. Players are good individually but jsut cannot click as a team because they mostly play in different teams, albeit in the same league. They have to adjust to a new formation/tactics in a short time. Compare that to germany/spain, most of their first team are from 1 or 2 big teams in their league, bayern, madrid, barca, etc. They gel better and are familiar with one another.