Ferguson could easily do what Mancini has done - buy virtually a whole new squad to win the league, but -
Mancini couldn't necessarily do what Ferguson did - build a club organically to win the league.
Man City fans will tell you that they don't care. That might be true, that might not - but the fact remains the same. Their achievement is not on a par with the like of Liverpool or Man Utd.
your right i wouldn't but I don't profess to be the facts are that city can now be bank rolled by an arab billionaire,it simply levels up the playing field
your right i wouldn't but I don't profess to be the facts are that city can now be bank rolled by an arab billionaire,it simply levels up the playing field
But that doesn't change the fact that in buying their way to the top table, their recent achievement is not in the same league as Ferguson when he joined Man Utd.
That is correct carthorse. I don't deny that.But that doesn't change the fact that in buying their way to the top table, their recent achievement is not in the same league as Ferguson when he joined Man Utd.
it hasnt fallen apart, im just getting bored now of your drivvel tbh, you dont have a valid argument, you just have an OPINION, which as a manure fan is a deluded opinion but an opinion none the less.
no wonder there are so many ABU fans abnout the way you lot act...
it hasnt fallen apart, im just getting bored now of your drivvel tbh, you dont have a valid argument, you just have an OPINION, which as a manure fan is a deluded opinion but an opinion none the less. no wonder there are so many ABU fans abnout the w
The thing is mancini has just arrived with SAF with a couple of years left.it is interesting that liverpool -united comparison because you overtook them but there is nothing to suggest that your record cannot be eclipsed
The thing is mancini has just arrived with SAF with a couple of years left.it is interesting that liverpool -united comparison because you overtook them but there is nothing to suggest that your record cannot be eclipsed
and further to your original line every I've spoken to have had nothing but praise for city-gatecrashing the cosy clubs that eufa are trying to protect
and further to your original line every I've spoken to have had nothing but praise for city-gatecrashing the cosy clubs that eufa are trying to protect
iam not a man u or city fan but city are looking far greater than man u at this moment in time, however, mancini has nothing on fergie, taticly he gets it wrong so often thats why when city have a few key players gone they cant fix that, pure class and skill from players won the title nothing to do with the way they where managed :D
iam not a man u or city fan but city are looking far greater than man u at this moment in time, however, mancini has nothing on fergie, taticly he gets it wrong so often thats why when city have a few key players gone they cant fix that, pure class a
There is no doubt that Fergie has been a great manager. He was the future once. Not any more. Even so how long did it take him to win his first League title and how long has it taken Mancini?
You United supporters would be far better not raging at the dying of the light because the more bitter and twisted you become the happier the rest of the country becomes. You have had your day at the top of the table but now you can move over gracefully or you can be kicked off it but you are leaving with or without your coats.
mr popularThere is no doubt that Fergie has been a great manager. He was the future once. Not any more. Even so how long did it take him to win his first League title and how long has it taken Mancini?You United supporters would be far better not rag
As an indpendant, to see a 'smaller club' knock united off the top is fantastic.
United have sat back on their laurels and expect to win the league because of who they are.
To say that city have bought the title is ridiculous, ferguson may have spent less on players but united have undoubtably bought favour for years.
Seeing the smug arrogance knocked out of united was brilliant, and the bitter jealous and petty comments from the 'fans' is pathetic.
City were better, and they won. Grow up, put they toys back in the pram and come back next season expecting to have to work for it like the rest of us.
As an indpendant, to see a 'smaller club' knock united off the top is fantastic. United have sat back on their laurels and expect to win the league because of who they are. To say that city have bought the title is ridiculous, ferguson may have spent
doubt it, thers always been 2 at in the title race
Man u-blackburn Man u-aresnal man u-chelsea man u-man city
lol either man u are finally done or man city are just another target to be dustede off by fergie and his army :) either way next season will be awesome!!
doubt it, thers always been 2 at in the title raceMan u-blackburnMan u-aresnalman u-chelseaman u-man citylol either man u are finally done or man city are just another target to be dustede off by fergie and his army :) either way next season will be
city winning the league ahead of you red b******s is the best thing that ever happened to the Prem end of f***** story. way of the world now and most amusingly of all they have NO DEBT
city winning the league ahead of you red b******s is the best thing that ever happened to the Prem end of f***** story. way of the world now and most amusingly of all they have NO DEBT
It wasn't the winning which has been such sweet nectar. It was how they did it when United were pumped up ready for the lap of honour and the fact the fury from the fans simply refuses to subside.
Has there ever been anything to rival it?
It wasn't the winning which has been such sweet nectar. It was how they did it when United were pumped up ready for the lap of honour and the fact the fury from the fans simply refuses to subside.Has there ever been anything to rival it?
imo need to build more around great people like kompany and leave idiots like tevez and balllllooooooooo'why always me'telllli :) great for the prem, cant wait to see who they bring in next :) seen a rumour of neymar! would be great to see him in a top league :)
imo need to build more around great people like kompany and leave idiots like tevez and balllllooooooooo'why always me'telllli :)great for the prem, cant wait to see who they bring in next :) seen a rumour of neymar! would be great to see him in a t
And to put the cherry on top of the cake the celebrations of the Sunderland fans on the day as they danced the Poznan has sent both the United fans and players into paroxisms of unrestrained manic rage which have been seared into United's collective consciousness. What sweet beauty we behold.
And to put the cherry on top of the cake the celebrations of the Sunderland fans on the day as they danced the Poznan has sent both the United fans and players into paroxisms of unrestrained manic rage which have been seared into United's collective
mr-popular 28 May 12 21:24 But would many have been able to do what Ferguson did at Aberdeen and Man Utd?
Nah.
Not sure what the point of this thread is. Obviously the answer to this question is no, because even Fergie himself has admitted that if he became manager of United today, he would never be given the time he was allowed 25 years ago to build a side. He went years without winning anything worthwhile and things are obviously different at top clubs in modern day football.
Nothing more to see here, move along folks.
mr-popular 28 May 12 21:24 But would many have been able to do what Ferguson did at Aberdeen and Man Utd?Nah.Not sure what the point of this thread is. Obviously the answer to this question is no, because even Fergie himself has admitted that if he
Check the mug biscuit out!! He admits to not understanding the thread, then tells people to move along.
Moron, anyone?
As so many of you have missed, this isn't about whether football has changed, whether it's a good thing, whether United fans are bitter etc.
No - this thread is quite simply to say that when people show a lack of respect for City's win, it's for a very good reason. You can try and defelect it as bitterness, but that doesn't work unless you can actually argue the point.
Which you can't.
Put it another way. If someone pumped in the same money to Aston Villa, do you think they'd struggle to win the league?
Nah.
It'sa simple point with no hidden message; people don't regard City's achievements as particularly special, because there's a feeling that anyone could have done it.
Not so for Ferguson's achievements at Man Utd.
Check the mug biscuit out!! He admits to not understanding the thread, then tells people to move along.Moron, anyone?As so many of you have missed, this isn't about whether football has changed, whether it's a good thing, whether United fans are bitt
What a sore loser. Manure have never had any piety. Your disgusting manager couldn't even congratulate city without a snide dig and the fans mostly are the most unsporting in the world. No wonder there are ABU's.
ps Perhaps a change of username would be appropriate.
What a sore loser. Manure have never had any piety. Your disgusting manager couldn't even congratulate city without a snide dig and the fans mostly are the most unsporting in the world. No wonder there are ABU's.ps Perhaps a change of username would
obviously City have spent a colossal amount of money, but they have only won one title, compared to the truckloads won by ferguson
on the other hand, it took the scot 7 or 8 seasons to win his first. and no-one gets that amount of time any more
op sounds "r0ykeane" -ish to me who's comparing the two anyway?obviously City have spent a colossal amount of money, but they have only won one title, compared to the truckloads won by fergusonon the other hand, it took the scot 7 or 8 seasons to win
"No - this thread is quite simply to say that when people show a lack of respect for City's win, it's for a very good reason. You can try and defelect it as bitterness, but that doesn't work unless you can actually argue the point"
Your 'argument' falls down however with the fact that the only people showing a lack of respect for city's title win are bitter United fans. The rest of the country was absolutely delighted for City.
"No - this thread is quite simply to say that when people show a lack of respect for City's win, it's for a very good reason. You can try and defelect it as bitterness, but that doesn't work unless you can actually argue the point"Your 'argument' fal
I presume he decided on a different forum name to stay under the radar as this is his first name that is not a Southampton player from the 90s.Hasn't worked out to well he may as well have had the name Dodd/palmer.
I see what you mean biscuit I presume he decided on a different forum name to stay under the radar as this is his first name that is not a Southampton player from the 90s.Hasn't worked out to well he may as well have had the name Dodd/palmer.
Biscuit realises he's dropped a clanger and tries desperately to get back into the argument... without success.
Never has the term 'utter moron' been more appropriate.
Biscuit realises he's dropped a clanger and tries desperately to get back into the argument... without success.Never has the term 'utter moron' been more appropriate.
Yeah sorry I logged off watched a movie with the mrs, went to bed, woke up been for a swim and breakfast, home log on and here we find the sad dodd whos more than likely been posting utter sh1te and seeths throughout the night....only weeks after announcing (who cares) he's leaving....
#desperate bell end
#addict
#one of lifes failures
Yeah sorry I logged off watched a movie with the mrs, went to bed, woke up been for a swim and breakfast, home log on and here we find the sad dodd whos more than likely been posting utter sh1te and seeths throughout the night....only weeks after ann
Been some childish sad feckers on here over the years but you lead by a mile dodd..if chatting sh1te on an anonymous forum is '#pleasing' and you think you 'own' people with your seething retorts then I really pity you, its not my fault or the forums that you are a failure.
Been some childish sad feckers on here over the years but you lead by a mile dodd..if chatting sh1te on an anonymous forum is '#pleasing' and you think you 'own' people with your seething retorts then I really pity you, its not my fault or the forums
JDSIGNOFF 16 Apr 12 13:20 So, the day has come. In truth, it's come 18 months later than I suspected! The jason-dodd account has been suspended. You can speculate as to why, but you don't actually know the truth.
I could open a new account and start again, as most do on here. But to be honest, I spend far too long on this forum, and this is a great kick up the backside to get off, and make better use of my time. I'll shortly be starting my own business to run alongside my work, and time spent on this forum is worthless time that I can't afford.
JDSIGNOFF 16 Apr 12 13:20 So, the day has come. In truth, it's come 18 months later than I suspected! The jason-dodd account has been suspended. You can speculate as to why, but you don't actually know the truth. I could open a new account and start
This is a comprehension ownage situation you've presented here - the jason doddmeister has another victim.
#pleasing
#ownage
#4-0
#lovelystuff
This Rop... leaving me to it.This is a comprehension ownage situation you've presented here - the jason doddmeister has another victim.#pleasing#ownage#4-0#lovelystuff
T.M.0 31 May 12 12:18 As soon as he was losing an argument, he would react with a stream of puerile abuse, and the bewildering claim that his protaganist was ‘owned’.
mr-popular 31 May 12 13:34 OWNED
Thank you for conforming Jason
T.M.0 31 May 12 12:18 As soon as he was losing an argument, he would react with a stream of puerile abuse, and the bewildering claim that his protaganist was ‘owned’.mr-popular 31 May 12 13:34 OWNEDThank you for conforming Jason
Only person making a prat of himself is the idiot who got suspended, then made a song and dance about leaving the forum, how he was better off away from it, was going to start up his own business, and then came crawling back within 6 weeks.
#whatanabsolutebellend
Only person making a prat of himself is the idiot who got suspended, then made a song and dance about leaving the forum, how he was better off away from it, was going to start up his own business, and then came crawling back within 6 weeks.#whatanabs
That was quite a seethe biscuit - and all this because you made one stupid comment.
Next time, you'd better have some facts to take me on with - otherwise you'll end up with another sound beating.
#hopethishelps
#ownage
#doddmeisterwinsagain
#pleasing
#hahahaha
That was quite a seethe biscuit - and all this because you made one stupid comment.Next time, you'd better have some facts to take me on with - otherwise you'll end up with another sound beating.#hopethishelps#ownage#doddmeisterwinsagain#pleasing#hah
mr-popular 31 May 12 13:56 Next time, you'd better have some facts to take me on with - otherwise you'll end up with another sound beating.
the facts were in my previous post
mr-popular 31 May 12 13:56 Next time, you'd better have some facts to take me on with - otherwise you'll end up with another sound beating.the facts were in my previous post
Difference being of course I didnt announce my departure with a thread seeking attention only to return still seeking attention but with a failed life and business..you did.
This place has really got a grip on your weak mind hasnt it, an achievement to you is 'owning' someone what ever that means...
Difference being of course I didnt announce my departure with a thread seeking attention only to return still seeking attention but with a failed life and business..you did.This place has really got a grip on your weak mind hasnt it, an achievement
so he winds up back here, the football forum, a magnet for mental cases, the unemployable and mouthy know all attention seeking kids
Rop's classic line - basically describing himself, as someone that ends up back on the forum.
Never has someone been so comprehensively owned.
#5-0
#comedygold
so he winds up back here, the football forum, a magnet for mental cases, the unemployable and mouthy know all attention seeking kidsRop's classic line - basically describing himself, as someone that ends up back on the forum.Never has someone been so
Just to help you out a bit because you're clearly struggling. This was my PREVIOUS POST. It's not difficult jason, try and keep up.
Biscuit1979 31 May 12 13:53 Only person making a prat of himself is the idiot who got suspended, then made a song and dance about leaving the forum, how he was better off away from it, was going to start up his own business, and then came crawling back within 6 weeks.
So let's break this down.
Got suspended - CHECK Made a song and dance about leaving the forum - CHECK Said he was better off away from the forum - CHECK Going to start up his own business - CHECK Came crawling back within 6 weeks - CHECK
Those are the FACTS, so you can continue to sound like a 12 year old by banging on about 'ownage' but the reality is you've made yourself look a right pr*ck by returning so soon. Now run along you child.
Just to help you out a bit because you're clearly struggling. This was my PREVIOUS POST. It's not difficult jason, try and keep up.Biscuit1979 31 May 12 13:53 Only person making a prat of himself is the idiot who got suspended, then made a song and
I'm well aware what you were referring to. I was simply continuing to mock you for your use of the word fact, seeing as your moronic attempt at stating a fact on this thread is why you're virtually in tears now.
Hope this helps
biscuitI'm well aware what you were referring to. I was simply continuing to mock you for your use of the word fact, seeing as your moronic attempt at stating a fact on this thread is why you're virtually in tears now.Hope this helps
Rop - We can use a different word if you like, I'm open to suggestions.
Basically, it needs to cover the fact that you tried to be clever, and ended up in a huge seethe, not able to walk away, because I am so much more intelligent and quick witted than you are.
Feel free to offer suggestions, but I like the word owned.
#ownage
Rop - We can use a different word if you like, I'm open to suggestions.Basically, it needs to cover the fact that you tried to be clever, and ended up in a huge seethe, not able to walk away, because I am so much more intelligent and quick witted tha
biscuit, you've got that one badly wrong... it was a sarcastic 'what was that'.
Imagine me cupping my ear to you.
Actually, let's move on. Imagine me laughing at you - because that's what I'm doing.
#ownage
#6-0
#biscuitcrumbling
biscuit, you've got that one badly wrong... it was a sarcastic 'what was that'.Imagine me cupping my ear to you.Actually, let's move on. Imagine me laughing at you - because that's what I'm doing.#ownage#6-0#biscuitcrumbling
You are giving him exactly what he wants, so it looks to me as though he is winning this childish little tiff.
If you just ignored him, or blocked him, then he wouldn't have any muppets to feed on.
Very sad stuff.
Why do you people even interact with this clown ? You are giving him exactly what he wants, so it looks to me as though he is winning this childish little tiff. If you just ignored him, or blocked him, then he wouldn't have any muppets to feed on. Ve
JDSIGNOFF 16 Apr 12 13:20 So, the day has come. In truth, it's come 18 months later than I suspected! The jason-dodd account has been suspended. You can speculate as to why, but you don't actually know the truth.
I could open a new account and start again, as most do on here. But to be honest, I spend far too long on this forum, and this is a great kick up the backside to get off, and make better use of my time. I'll shortly be starting my own business to run alongside my work, and time spent on this forum is worthless time that I can't afford.
JDSIGNOFF 16 Apr 12 13:20 So, the day has come. In truth, it's come 18 months later than I suspected! The jason-dodd account has been suspended. You can speculate as to why, but you don't actually know the truth. I could open a new account and star
My post at 14:12 said all i have to say, happy to let Jason claim some kind of 'ownage' if it makes him happy, deep down he knows the rest of the forum think he's a complete and utter bell end and we know he's still seething over City winning the league, hence why he started this thread (and no jason i am not missing the point, we know you're an angry man).
That post from Henry Spearman is brilliant though.
Do you know what maggot, you are spot on.My post at 14:12 said all i have to say, happy to let Jason claim some kind of 'ownage' if it makes him happy, deep down he knows the rest of the forum think he's a complete and utter bell end and we know he's
biscuis is rattled - he's bemused as to why every direction he goes in, he just gets mocked even more.
Bashing his keyboard, sweating - this is quite a seethe.
#pleasing
#dunkyourhobnobs
biscuis is rattled - he's bemused as to why every direction he goes in, he just gets mocked even more.Bashing his keyboard, sweating - this is quite a seethe.#pleasing#dunkyourhobnobs