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Boy, 5, made £50,000 loss on spread-betting website
A spread betting company’s ‘inadequate’ terms and conditions made it impossible for it to legitimately attempt to claim £50,000 in lost trades from one of its customers, a judge ruled.
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C made the trades in oil, gold and silver (Picture: Alamy)
The 49 pages of Spreadex’s Ts & Cs agreed to by Colin Cochrane was, in the eyes of the law, an ‘unfair contract’.


Mr Cochrane claimed the losses were racked up by his girlfriend’s five-year-old son after he accidentally left his computer on. The boy, referred to in court as ‘C’,  made the trades in oil, gold and silver without his authorisation or knowledge.


Deputy judge David Donaldson said it would have been ‘close to a miracle’ if Mr Cochrane had read the relevant clause. Such lengthy terms and conditions were ‘entirely inadequate to seek to make the customer liable for any potential trades he did not authorise’, he said.


Mr Cochrane began using Spreadex in October 2010. In May last year, he visited a friend and did not return for two days. ‘His girlfriend said that his computer had been used by C, and C told him that he had been playing games on it,’ said Mr Donaldson.


Spreadex launched legal proceedings to recover the losses.
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By:
CaptainScarlet
When: 22 May 12 12:44
Quite amazing that the kid chose to trade three of the hottest commodities on the planet right now Confused
By:
Contrarian
When: 22 May 12 12:47
Sets quite a precedent though. You could let your 3 year-old loose on the computer while logged in to your spread betting account: if it wins, you're laughing, if it loses, you're not liable.
By:
donny osmond
When: 22 May 12 13:52
he might have lost more had he not been posting on the betfair forum
By:
fallenangel
When: 22 May 12 16:08
i think the same kid has been breaking into moneytrees house Wink
By:
Pete Watermelon
When: 22 May 12 17:09
I use to work there. Helped launch the company back in 2000.
By:
Mister E
When: 22 May 12 17:09
If he worked for a bank he might get a bonusWink
By:
scaredmoney
When: 22 May 12 17:34
Baby tree done his inheritance already?
By:
clacton
When: 22 May 12 17:41
I thought you had to have money in your account before
you can bet. Cant believe they allow anyone to lose £50,000
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 22 May 12 18:33
I believe Mr Cochrane's story Plain
By:
Corky
When: 22 May 12 20:21
Amazingly, so did the judge.
By:
Mike Bassett England Manager
When: 22 May 12 20:32
The 49 pages of Spreadex’s Ts & Cs agreed to by Colin Cochrane was, in the eyes of the law, an ‘unfair contract’.

I bet all the others are now scrutinising theirs.
By:
MONEY TREE
When: 22 May 12 20:41
should of used this one when monmome won ffs.
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 22 May 12 20:44
I reckon there is still time Tree, give it a go, I mean what more have you got left to lose mate Wink
By:
MONEY TREE
When: 22 May 12 20:44
46k
By:
HansUlrichApfelStrudel
When: 22 May 12 20:48
Is that like a C64? Crazy

Great stuff tree plenty of ammunition for Euros
By:
MONEY TREE
When: 22 May 12 20:55
yes but its not designed for disableds like the c4 was
By:
scaredmoney
When: 22 May 12 21:11
MONEY TREE • May 22, 2012 8:41 PM BST
should of used this one when monmome won ffs.


LaughLaugh
By:
meltdown
When: 23 May 12 07:25
ASIF A 5 year old could use a trading platform & loose that much money, how much of a crap lier is the man, or how thick is he to leave his account open with real money involved LMAO!!
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 23 May 12 09:27
It would seem a very far fetched excuse but the article says he was away visiting a friend at the time so i'm assuming the bloke can actually provide evidence that he was away from home at the time of the trades.
By:
clacton
When: 23 May 12 09:36
When his account ran out of money he would get a 'Margin Call'. How did the 5 year old put more money into the account. All sounds a bit fishy to me
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 23 May 12 09:41
How do you know his account ran out of money? Just says the kid lost 50k.

for all we know, the bloke might have had 200k in there.
By:
clacton
When: 23 May 12 09:44
If he had 50k in his account Spreadex would not be taking him to court. They would have his money.
By:
History Maker
When: 23 May 12 09:46
Yeah, fine. He was away and got a mate in to have a few bets. They win, clover. They lose, oh my son did it. As plausible as Elvis shooting JFK. The judge is a moron.

Having said that, the exchange deserve everything they get for having such a long list of terms and conditions.

I would bar people from leaving terms and conditions pages for the average length of time it takes a person to actually read them, for all gambling sites. That'd make firms think twice about impenetrable T&Cs.
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