Football has died

Chelsea deserved to win...Get over it.

hang on a minute chaps, we beat zee germans on their own pitch!!
I agree with Gary Neville UEFA STOP FOOTBALL!!

going skint     19 May 12 22:40 
prob the worst team to ever win


Under  30 years old 1.01

Chelsea defended well.  Bayern missed chances.  It's all part of the game.  Chelsea deserved winners.  Stop crying about it.

Yep Chelsea are a gross abomination of a football club. Horible owner, horrible players but most of all horrible fans. although seeing germans lose on pens was mildly amusing

SO MANY TEARS ON THIS THREAD MY MONITOR IS WET THROUGH!!!!

It's more like Greece winning the Euros.

PMSL seethers galore on this thread

tbh, football died when brazil played that donkey adriano up front.

well...that and when carlton palmer had a bath.

Just compounds a bad day with West Ham beating Blackpool

football lives

A chelsea supporter

come on they have won for the U.K.

haha a lot of pocket talking going on here

sad bitter losers

well done chelsea

i agree with metaphor

shocking scenes

Football will never die!! This is what will always keep it alive.

OP was probably the person who backed Munich for £300,000 pre kick off haha, sore looser

I said after about an hour and Munich had forced their 87th corner that if Chelsea could just force 1 corner they would score. Say La Vee

glad i turned this rubbish off before the end


terrible final


without Barcelona and Real in the final the final isn't worth a light 

the very fact the bosch were the better team but lost, on their own pitch , on pennos makes it all the more amusing.

Chelsea are European Champions. They deserve it because they won it. Absolutely fantastic

has there ever been a more underserving winner of a trophy? i cant think of one

May 19, 2012 -- 10:59PM, pauliow wrote:

Chelsea are European Champions. They deserve it because they won it. Absolutely fantastic

This ^^^ the smell of sour grapes in here is turning my stomach

barcelona: should have been knocked out a few times when they won

DONT FORGET THAT FACKIN PENALTY HANDBALL THAT WASENT GIVEN TO BENFICA AGAINST CHELSEA ..ROBBERS

GRANTCKING     19 May 12 23:00 
has there ever been a more underserving winner of a trophy? i cant think of one

Another youngster with a poor memory it seems

Dr Kim are you not a chelsea fan? you should be used to sour grapes, we get showered in them.

european football is rubbish these days, they cant even play the game. just imagine if we'd have sent one of our best teams to the final...

10 men vs barcelona win a half 1-0 and they are undeserving...ha

do tell me then pumphol....

i live in london but where are the chelsea fans? i dont hear them rotfflin

"glad i turned this rubbish off before the end"
Your loss. Was exciting finished. Missed chances, missed pen, chelski come from behind in ordinary and pens and win at pens AGAINST THE GERMANS. Very memorable final.

I repeat: Your loss.

loadedgimp has it in a nutshell!!

May 19, 2012 -- 11:02PM, loadedgimp wrote:

Dr Kim are you not a chelsea fan? you should be used to sour grapes, we get showered in them.

Birmingham City and Barcelona fan

regardless of whther they deserved it or not, that was a truly awful spectacle and the OP is spot on. If that is the future, fottball HAS died. for the record i only bet on the horses.

"exciting finish". Too many shandy's :P

Chelsea wanted to win it, Cole has said many times they dont care if its ugly its the result they are after.  CHAMPIONES

May 19, 2012 -- 11:05PM, loadedgimp wrote:

Chelsea wanted to win it, Cole has said many times they dont care if its ugly its the result they are after.

As said before....OP has it completely wrong!!!

when a team wins the champions league playing like that
it is a very sad day for football
makes other managers try that type of football
and in the long term we all suffer

It was their turn, it was karma. However you see it there was a lot of drama this year, and thats what football is all about, so OP is talking rubish.

chelsea suck cack

GRANTCKING     19 May 12 23:03 
do tell me then pumphol....


Like I said your to young to remember the 1991 final or the 1986 final but do tell me that you have seen both games & they were better than today's

Just Checking     19 May 12 23:03 
"glad i turned this rubbish off before the end"
Your loss. Was exciting finished. Missed chances, missed pen, chelski come from behind in ordinary and pens and win at pens AGAINST THE GERMANS.


______________

Are you Basil Fawlty ?

when a team wins the champions league playing like that
it is a very sad day for football
makes other managers try that type of football
and in the long term we all suffer

OP 100% right.

What a load of rubbish!!!

For one minute I thought i had logged into the German version of Betfair? For crying out loud, it doesn't matter who you support an English team has won the Champions League beating a German side in there own back yard, after beating ' The best team in the world '  Barcelona in the semi.

Just what is wrong with you people.

makes other managers try that type of football
and in the long term we all suffer

What are you talking about, both teams on a pitch cant play like that, someone has to be in an attacking position ffs, wether they want it or not.

May 19, 2012 -- 11:08PM, going skint wrote:

when a team wins the champions league playing like thatit is a very sad day for footballmakes other managers try that type of footballand in the long term we all suffer

How did France won WC 1998? How did Greece won Euro 2004? You play with the weapons you have.
In 1998 France didn't have one decent attacker. Guivarc'h in attack ffs! The only way to win it was a strong defence and they did it. Nothing new there

May 19, 2012 -- 11:10PM, Charlton2005 wrote:

when a team wins the champions league playing like thatit is a very sad day for footballmakes other managers try that type of footballand in the long term we all suffer OP 100% right.

should Chelsea have gone out and played attacking football?

if i was a manger i would study the f@ck out of the chelsea way and try and replicate it. when the 6th best team in england are champions of europe, you want to know how the fukk they did it. wellm they did it the ugliest way possible. football in europe is finished for a number fo years.

In reply to frizli...Some of the clowns on here will never see it like that!!

no idea aaron. i'm no manager, but i do know a sh1t game of football when i'm watching one.

strong defence and fast counters has its own appeal. its more exciting to me than barcas billion passes in front of the goal.

"Are you Basil Fawlty ?"

Is this cockernee rhyming slang?

Anti football won

May 19, 2012 -- 11:14PM, Charlton2005 wrote:

no idea aaron. i'm no manager, but i do know a sh1t game of football when i'm watching one.

much more likely Chelsea would have been picked off and lost... it was boring to watch yes but if you're Chelsea who cares you'd rather win boring than lose in exciting fashion

it's not the way to play against teams much better than you

Bayerns fault (mostly Gomez) that they didn't take advantage of their chances

Amazing the number of C rap teams that win Leagues and Cups, you would think the good teams would stop them.

i kind of disagree because Chelsea didn't really give a defensive masterclass where they restricted Bayern to half chances. Bayern created plenty of good chances but didn't take them. Most times when teams play like Chelsea did they'll lose, they just happen to have gotten away with it a few times in the CL this season.

Bayern weren't clinical enough in front of goal and it cost them, but Bayern created plenty of good chances, Chelsea weren't that great defensively.

if you say barca vs. chelsea was a boring match youre crazy. and thats the only way to play against barca.

The german police round the stadium look happy. Obviously 1860 Munchen fans :)

"Bayerns fault (mostly Gomez) that they didn't take advantage of their chances"

It must be gutting in their changing room, they certainly had numerous chances to win that. But they didn't!

To Dylan 1975....Who deserved to win then?

aaron, i'm not denying that chelsea did the right thing for chelsea and well done to them and drog and abramovic etc etc. i just don't want ian holloway to look at this and go to old trafford and try the same thing. Luckily he's too much of a free spirit to do that (and obviously wont anytime soon anyway) but there will be technical managers out there who'll look at this and say, right that's our style now  :((

crap teams dont really win leagues, they win cups cos theyre always open to fluke wins.

Love how some people suddenly realise (after they lose a bet usually) that teams are allowed to defend if they want to.

It's not news fellas - try Porto Champions a fair few years ago as an example of history......

dylan1975, how much did you lose exactly?

good night for me game went exactly as i thought it would you think im aftertimimng look through the fredsAs for anti football its called reactive football and there aint ought wrong with it. Signed Arsenal flair team supporter

yeah ideally Bayern wins as you always want the team thats attacking and trying to win the game to win. There is an art in defending but to be honest i don't think Chelsea defended that great as they gave up so many good chances.

"crap teams dont really win leagues, they win cups cos theyre always open to fluke wins."

It's the champions LEAGUE :)

Stu: to people who spunk their banks on overs, defending should apparently be banned.

If there is a one thing that could add to my joy as a Chelsea fan tonight, it is threads like this from bitterly clueless tw@ts.

THank you, loser! 

Drogba's header was absolute class

May i add that chelseas team had spirit and guts in abundance and that counts for a lot in my book

Dr Kim
19 May 12 23:04 Joined: 02 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 2,334 |
Dr Kim are you not a chelsea fan? you should be used to sour grapes, we get showered in them.

Birmingham City and Barcelona fan.


Dr.Kim you'd better add Man City to the list of teams you are a fan of, got to keep the bases covered.

its called reactive football and there aint ought wrong with it.

yeah, if you want to be bored sh1tless, there is indeed nothing wrong with it  :)

"Drogba's header was absolute class"
Was just watcing the replay and (I'm not a fan of the guy) I have to concur, the agression, the fact he rotated his head on the fly as his direction of travel was pretty much straight against the balls - very good technique and goal.

i didn't lose anything.

my point was if teams look to copy what Chelsea did i don't think you'd have much success because they needed a lot of luck and poor finishing by the opposition.

Its not as if they gave a defensive masterclass like you used to see from Italian teams where they restricted the opposition to half chances. Bayern had more than enough good chances to score 3 or 4 tonight and the same goes for Barcelona in the semi. So i don't think copying Chelsea's plan will be too successful in the long run.

Unfortunately the partisan nature of football is overriding people's understanding of why football is played. TO ENTERTAIN. Next time I'll go and watch Snooker instead. WALOFS.

I was entertained enough by watching the Germans fail charlton.

Tell you what....Pass, pass, pass, pass............................................................pass as performed by Real is mind-numbing.

:) good one Stu, but I think you can see that is a partisan reply  :)

Still, on a serious point, I'm saying that football can still be entertaining without just being about shots that end in the goal. If it wasn't then League 2 wouldn't exist, lol

to be fair chelsea were dire

they won but it wasn't pretty

to be fair chelsea were dire

they won but it wasn't pretty

chelsea arent one of the best teams in europe, on 2nites sohwing thats pretty evident

Personally found it fascinating to see whether Chelsea could stifle them in the game, especially after going behind....which they did!

Agree with stu Charlton arnt you a bit to old to be so starry eyed

And how dare you knock
Snooker a great Sport

Fair enough Stu, just wouldn't want to see that too often (by any team).

Yeah chpann, too old indeed. :)

Don't agree charlton - they didn't simply sit back with 11 men for the whole match, they had counter attacks and played an almost perfect game, including a stunning goal (far better than Bayern's goal).

If all teams played exactly the same the game would then be very boring I'd say!

If Chelsea aren't one of the best teams in Europe,nor by that argument are Bayern or Barcelona.

The death of football, can't agree more, exactly the same happened with Liverpool, afterwards Greece won the EC,
I advise you bet on the crappiest teams now, it's coming again...

not sure you can call it almost a perfect game when the opposition had so many clear chances?? thought they counter attacked pretty poorly for most of the game too.

There have been worse teams that have won the trophy &  a team of Chelsea's ilk will undoubtedly win it again sooner rather than later, at the end of the day they knocked out the best team in Europe over two legs & then beat their fellow finalists in their own backyard, hard to deny that they probably deserved to win this years trophy more than any other team that competed, regardless of the fact they are far from the best team in Europe.

Chelsea deserved that tonight

been superb

went close previous years with semis and of course 2008 final

it was their time. wp

greece was the greatest achievment ever IMHO, i suppose its how you see things really

dylans point is correct
it was a very negative performance but it was not a great defensive one
defensive sides with ability to counter attack swiftly are a joy to watch
there was no such policy for chelsea
it was purely negative,boring sh1te

If Bayern fluffed their chances that is all part of the game - pointless saying it was nothing to do with Chelsea when that was the team that stopped them. Anyway, I've had enough debating this one for a game I made a small profit on! It's over - losers get over it, winners get on with it! GL

just to make things clear: Bayern is not "zee germans".
you'll get your penalty loss soon enough at the Euros :D

In the past 13 years Man United came from behind to win...Liverpool came from behind to win, Chelsea came from behind to win...All the teams that lost to them thought that they "themselves" didn't deserve to lose.....How crazy is that??

I agree.  I was pleased that Chelsea won but it's a kick in the teeth for football in general.  Chelsea did it tonight playing defensive football and also in both legs against Barcelona.  QPR did something similar last week at Man City but thankfully adventurous football won it in the end.  I appreciate that there is more than one way to win a football match but if teams start trying to copy the Chelsea way then we are in for some dull games.

Just to return to the interesting points of this debate worth pointing out:

1/ Chelsea didn't only defend. They played classic counter attack, and their goal was also better in quality than Bayern's for the record.

2/ If it was really so easy to play the 'defensive approach', how come poor teams can't do it (e.g. when they visit top teams and get stuffed)?