Bring Back Rafa NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously?

Absolutely, he's a proven non winner in the Prem.

For once I also agree with Fergie, he was so lucky to win the CL with Liverpool.

and fergie wasnt?

Dave you must be still bevvied up from the title celebrations.

Manchester is United in this

Careful what yous wish for lads

Pete you seem to know far more than me tbh about politics inside clubs, I cant comment on something I have absolutely no idea about.

Just one thing though, you seem to know Gerrard wanted Hodgson gone but it obviuosly must have escaped Hodgsons knowledge or else he wouldn't have made Stevie his Captain? Where do you get your info from?

lol cob, how the hell did you remain so diplomatic there?!!

I don't know but most of what I have got regarding the "politics" inside Liverpool are far regular contributors on the Liverpool thread. I rightly presume they know more of what is going on inside the club than I do.

You give me the impression that you are surprised that Gerrard wanted Roy gone. Is that not true?

pete , you normally talk sense , has man city winning the league got to your senses ?

lol albert, beginning to wonder myself

have to say pete this mod£rn football is doing my head in

Albert, I've just decided to ignore the finance issue with football.

Clearly it would have been brilliant if we won with Franny Lee still owning us & still at Maine Road, but that was never going to be. I'm just switching off to the finance bit because ultimately I can't do a thing about it. Just enjoying the football, which at some points this season has been just fabulous.

My last post might explain my "Liverpool post" earlier. It is the frustration I and others feel with players so called loyalties that change with the wind, saying one thing one week and then the opposite another.

It´s 2012 people, fans are more fickle than ever, and why shouldnt a multi billion pound industry cash in on that? you dont buy into that concept- then its Rugby League for you.

Dave, i am with you 100% my man, but cash is most definitely king in  footie now- and it sickens me to the bone.

I honestly can't believe there are people who are supposedly knowledgeable football fans, who can't see what a brilliant job Rafa did at Liverpool. I find it staggering.

yes tober , joint managers too.

Peter. The Liverpool fans who wanted Rafa out should now be hanging their head in shame. The vast majority didnt imo.

Those who wanted him out (and the fans of rival clubs who thought he was useless) are those that were living in a time warp and still felt Liverpool should be competing for the league.

Yes he had lost the dressing room... but thats mostly because Gerrard and Carragher behaved like such pr1cks and think they know whats nest for the club. I actually said I thought he should go by the end, but only because so many people were against him.

With all due respect, its a bit patronising to say I only remember the good bits alone. I live and breathe LFC and as with most fans, I knew Rafa was far from perfect. But every Manager has his faults and what he achieved at the club should never be under estimated. He was in a different league to the 2 Managers that have follwed him, and if we can find a new man as good as him I will be surprised. It was a be careful waht you wish for scenario back then.

Good post CCM and a very honest one. Many fans would not be as candid as you have been about the dressing room, Gerrard and Carragher. As for the "good bits" you will see that I was referring to "some fans" as there are quite a few threads on Rafa and it is amusing to see they are in selective mode.

I knew your views perfectly well as I always have a look in on your thread and your post above shows you have maintained those views. However I do have to say that as well as Rafa did for you, its incredible that his stock has risen since his sacking mainly because of the abject failure of Hodgson and Dalglish.

That is somewhat surprising when you think that Rafa lost your dressing room, failed to qualify for the CL, got sacked by Liverpool, then got sacked by Inter and has been unemployed since then but some fans now see him as the saviour. Its a bit like us going back for Sir Matt Busby after Frank O Farrel and Wild McGuiness made a pigs ear of it.

Morning Peter. But wouldn't a Managers stock always rise after successive ones perform so badly? Everyone can see, regardless of what they thought of him at the time, that maybe they had it wrong and he did do a good job at Liverpool? I always said that I felt Rafa over achieved for a good part of his tenure and was derided as a halfwit for saying so. He had earns the right to be let off for one bad season, especially with the major problems we had with the owners. Remember Everton finishing 17th and loads of there fans wanting Moyes gone? Wonder what they think now if they are honest. I have always believed long term stability is really important if your Manager gets it right more than he does wrong. And Rafa could have stayed with us for a long, long time.

In your last paragraph, you have just highlighted the negatives. Weigh them up with the positives, and I think the positives win by a mile.

I personally think he is a 100-1 shot to get it, and can't see FSG going for him anyway. Gerrad and Carragher will no doubt have their say and I dont believe they will be clamouring for his return. I can also see why you think it's a regressive step. But there is a massive absence of viable options to my eyes and lots of very risky options.