does anyone think Chelsea can win the Champions League?

No chance imo

i can't decide if they are value or whether Bayern are at 1.46

You'll have Ashley Cole plus 3 mugs at the back for Chelsea. Bayern -1 is the bet for me

to be fair Bayern did look very good against Madrid.

Chelsea not value here then?

why cant they win? I think they have a 40% chance of winning.

not a prayer

The only thing that will stop Bayern winning is if the pressure of a home final gets to them.

Chelsea have 4 first team regulars missing whereas i feel Bayern can cope without the guys they have suspended.

germans are so efficient i can't see them choking the home advantage aspect

Chelsea have a 2/1 chance on my ratings

I don't think it is fully a home game for Bayern .Chelsea will have many times the fans of any Away team thats been there before, and the ceremonial aspect of the occasion and build up will dilute the familiarity aspect of home advantage.

Likely Bayern line-up, with Rafihna also an option. Should have more than enough to put the chavs to the sword.

Neuer
Lahm   
Tymoshchuk 
Boateng
Contento
Schweinsteiger
Kroos
Robben
T. Müller
Ribery
Gomez

that defence looks dodgy. Does van Buyten not get a look in?

Would you of thought they would have got this far ?
Would you think they would beat Barca over 2 legs ?
would you think they could come back against Seville ?

Therein lies your answer.....

I think 5 is outstanding value

He's training again, last Saturday was too early, but he will play some part in this Saturday's final. Contento is a weak point.

Seville?

He means Napoli imo

thought so. can chelsea do this Mr Presleyyyy?

i think 1.79 is a very fair price on bayern i said theyde be about 1.4 after they won the semi against real. bayern will be harder to defend against and wont simply be the case of just parking the bus as chelsea did against barca because barca have a relatively slow build up so its easier to just sit back and stay in position. bayern are a far more explosive team and will be harder to upset because it will be more of both teams playing abit and with chelsea having more of the ball there will be more space in the chelsea half for bayern to operate. i can only see this going one way and thats with the trophy not leaving the stadium, fair play for chelsea for making it this far.

Chelsea have no hope.

1.79 B.Munich & 4.9 Chelsea?....well I'd have to back Chelsea at those prices. OK it's at Bayern's ground etc but the value is still with Chelsea at present. If I was Chelsea I'd pick a strong team vs Blackburn on Sunday to hopefully get some confidence up after losing 4-1 vs Liv - if it's going well after say 45/60 minutes then protect the most 'valuable' 3 via substitutions - this keeps everybody nice and match sharp.

I would imagine everyone knows it is possible, but no one
knows if it will.

I really hope Bayern win but don't mind if Chelsea win

If Newcastle finish 4th then i hope Bayern win the final.

If Arsenal/Spurs finish 4th then i hope Chelsea win just to see the seething amongst my mates/in the office etc as they get dumped into the Europa.

[b]Biscuit[/b], reading your last post makes me
feel so happy I have no connection with
any PL side, especially the ones you
mention. I couldn't deal with all that
seething and hatred.

I would be a lot more confident of Chelsea's chance if Terry and Ivanovic were playing.  Still, we will field plenty of talent and are by no means a write-off.  I hope it is a great game to watch, unlike the Barca legs though.

anyone who thinks it's impossible for chelsea to win is an idiot by default

Chelsea can only win the way they survived
Barca.

by scoring two fantastic away goals?

Penalty shoot out against the Germans...

Oh dear.

i cant work out which chelsea goal i enjoyed the most; ramirez goal was technically superior and def better than anything barca did for the whole two games; but the torres goal took real courage, real bottle; and gave me enormous satisfaction. it's a difficult one - one to ponder me thinks

the torres goal meant nothing in football terms, maybe lost some people money backing barca though

oh i think you'll find the torres goal meant a lot to everyone except barcelona and their followers

no i just think it gave you some ammunition to gloat over and as its hard to come by have had to make the most of it. the torres goal meant nothing other than to people who were betting, barca needed to score and if they didnt score they were going out anyway hence the reason torres was the only player in the barca half with valdes.

no idea what you are on about son, it was a fantastic goal enjoyed by millions around the world. it's not all about money, the torres goal was all about glory.

and what a glorious display it topped off 

was indeed a fabulous victory

The defensive problems Chelsea have i seriously cant see how Bayern dont win this match. Going into a final with two centre halves that wont have played in weeks. Have Cahill and Luiz even played together? Then will come up against one of the strongest attacks in European football. Gomez may need a few chances to score but he gets so many with the likes of Robben and Ribery.

I take in account that Bayern have defensive problems but not as severe as Chelsea. Bayern are also playing at home which has to be a big advantage. 5/6 PP cracking price imo.

Happy punting.

also if chelsea do park the bus this time the opposition have a target man in the box which is what barca were crying out for

Drogba is the one the Germans fear and he is flying look what he did to Ledley King and Gallas

Drogba is the one the Germans fear and he is flying look what he did to Ledley King and Gallas

Forced Barca to play wide on the basis that crosses (if they got them in) would be snuffed out by Ivanovic, Terry etc.
Different game, encouraging Robben and Riberry to go down the flanks and cross for Gomez is not on.

Without Luiz and Cahill it will be tough, if they both play there is a chance.
Plus playing Final Away is unusual handicap.
Winning the CL sorts out the best in Europe. Chelsea have done remarkably well to fly the flag for England and get this far.
Good luck to all.

any idea what chelseas lineup will be??


i wouldnt be suprised to see van buyten with boateng.
dont think they will risk the ukranian against drogba although he has played centre back quite a lot for kyiv

van buyten is more equipped to deal with drogba

For all of the talk about how well Chelsea "parked the bus" (f**king ridiculous expression), they had to ride their luck a fair bit -- didn't Barca hit the woodwork four times over the two legs?

I think they have been quite lucky so far under RdM, and that is the main difference between his tenure and AvB's. The luck will run out come the final (I hope). It's quite obvious that Bayern are a much superior team to Chelsea and I can't see that Chelsea will luck their way to victory in this one as they did against Barcelona. Nor do I see Chelsea just straight-up outplaying the Germans.

And if it goes to penalties, then Germany also has that covered...

Chelsea are missing their best player ( Ramires ) and their Captain and best right back.

I forsee a brutal Bayern tearing chelsea a new arse hole.

Bayern Munchen 3 - 0 Chelsea

( Gomez 7, Robben 22, Muller 81 )

wasn't actually after spurs defended for 90 mins for a 0-0 at the bridge that jose first coined the expression ?

not the first side you'd associate with sticking 10 men behind the ball

3 spurs fans in a row 5-1

if newcastle finish 4th yes if not no.

Yes, I think so Mafe.

Nice and tight with Lamps controlloing the midfield and producing another world class pass to show Xavi how it is done to the Drog 1-0 job done .

Chelsea may well stuff the box as they did against chelsea, it was pure anti football. i have this horrible feeling that it is `written in stone` and chelsea will win the champions league, i really hope not.

Anti football is when a bent ref fails to give cert pens hth

they,ve got a fighting chance imo, earned it the hard way too. its how their makeshift defence copes 1st 25 mins. if they can, drogba torres can bring any defence down. torres will be useful if counter attacking(if used). bayern being at home can bring pressure to them and make them under perform. might not be as one-sided as a lot of people think.

they have a chance but bayern are a solid footballing unit

not long now

bayern not forcing chelsea to park the bus will only expose chelsea more to pacier players in robben and ribbery.

if they do park the bus gomez is a better option than what barca had

Bloodbath...bayern maul chelsea out of sight 6-2

anyone?