San Martin - Velez KO 00.30

does anyone have any news on this please?

just rang betfair, they cant be sure that the referee blew for full time or abandoned the game, if he blew for fulltime will be settled however if he didnt then its three day rule with bets likely to be void

purple have un-settled overnight and bet is now showing back in Matched bets with the following :

San Martin S.J. v Velez Sarsfield ABANDONED - Match Odds

So at the moment is un-settled, I expect it will be same as BF but I have emailed them

ok ,clear as mud ....some saying ref blew for F/T !!!  others saying game abandoned ,betfair saying they hope to have a ruling this afternoon if game was officially finished or if its on three day rule .

well on the velez website

Velez San Martín defeated 3 to 1 in the match played in San Juan by the tenth of the Clausura 2012. Fortin opened the scoring with a goal against Grabinski, but the local equated with a goal of Affranchino. In the second half, the bank moved Gareca goals from Lucas Pratto Bebu Velazquez and won a great match that was suspended the final five events of the local fans.

they are speaking as if they won and not as if it was abandoned

it appeared that the ref blew for FT....were all in limbo i guess

Italian website calciosudamericano.it says:
Invasione di campo, l’arbitro Trucco fa evacuare il campo e sospende la gara in anticipo omologando il risultato di 1-3 che spedisce il San Martin in piena zona calda.

As you can see it on the FIFA-Site: the game was abondened. If 5 minutes before the end or 30 min, dont change anything- It was abondened.

Here another link: http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/argentina-primera-division/news/1101621/Velez-clash-called-off

Now its just the question: will it be repeated in the next 3 day or not.

Agrentine site translates as game suspended but then goes on to say that this victory for Velez puts them a point behind the leaders Boca..

i had it in multiple with the win of pumas the final match.i saw the referee with my own eyes that has blowed the full time.as you can imagine i lay the pumas with all my bank when she went forward as i was sure that the velez match was over.(futball24 has it over as well in this time)

Pumas won and i was expected my won funds of the multiple..

And now i read about all these *ucking staff and i am getting crazy..

I called them and they are not setlle the game.

Excuse me but it is unethical to confuse the multiple market with the trade market.

IF YOU ARE SERIUS YOU HAVE TO PAY THE MULTIPLE MARKET STUFF.THIS MARKET IS 100% YOUR PROFIT OR LOSE AND YOU MUST HAVE SIMILAR RULES AS THE COMPANIES THAT YOU COMPETES.

AT LEAST TWO OF THEM HAVE ALREADY PAIED THE BET.

BUT YOU ARE DOING NOTHING.

CONGRAGULATIONS.IT IS THE LAST TIME THAT I AM PUTTING MONEY IN YOUR MULTIPLES MARKET.YOU WILL LOSE.I AM NOT.I LL JUST PUT THEM IN ANOTHER COMPANY.

YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES ABOUT MULTIPLE MARKET.YOU HAVE TO BE SAMED.

This is pretty poor.

Had them on 365 and they haven't settled either way yet. They should do the correct thing and pay out on the win. Half hour to go id understand the abandonment rule but come on 3-1 in the last few mins

Totally agree.....these are bookmakers we are talking about though.....and a well backed (i imagine) favorite

to be honest i just want a decision to be in place for this match

cancel the game and return the money, cut the crap.

What is going on with betfair they should have settled the bets by now...surely they can watch the reply/highlights of the game and it clearly shows the ref calling an end to the game (FT).

This is just taking the piss; now my bet will be voided sooner or later

@scaredmoney.

no well backed favorite.velez had libertadores game midweek and had many many changes in this match.

my friend CaptureIT,they just are RIDICULLUS..THEY CANNOT CONFIRM the reply/highlights OF A MATCH THAT THEY OFFER IT IN LIVE STREAM.

mitsa

yeah...they had some changes and drifted slightly in the betting pre match.....still had over 80% of the market though from what i remember

just spoke to bet 365 live chat for an update. They said they will be settling the market as a void. Told them their a joke for doing that.

****s

JUST LOOK THE REPLAYS JUST LOOK THE REFEREE..I AM GETTING CRAZY.

If they can't watch the reply of the game, I will find a reply of the game for them and show them that the ref ended the game and velez won 3-1, they better either settle or void the bets soon this is just getting ridiculous.

PLEASE DO THAT..JUST DO THAT..THEY ARE RIDICULOUS..STILL NOTHING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JKJZLV4RU - this is the best link that I can find of the match, its not english though so if someone can translate it that would be great.

Bet 365 now back tracking. They are waiting for an announcement from the argentina fa

from purple :

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your e-mail.

If the game is not replayed within 36 hours then all bets will be void as per our rules.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind Regards,

If they are going to replay the game; shouldn't all bets be voided anyway unless they carry on from whatever minute they were on....so it seems we have to wait until tomorrow/tuesday to see

Imo: no chances to replay the game in 3 days.

Or confirmed 1-3
Or 0-3 (to be awarded the match)

I had lumped a load of money on Velez to win at 2.6, is BF really going to void these bets? when Velez clearly were the victors, also If they do try to "void" bets they should give out the cash out price of the bet in play for people who put bets on Velez, I could have cashed out over double what I put  on but didn't cos Velez clearly won

That makes it even more ridiculous:

"With fans in the same place, the security forces told the judge that he could continue, but the players of San Martin, with good sense, refused to approach bias"

(Google translate from http://www.tycsports.com/notas/69468-velez-le-gana-san-martin-y-sigue-la-pelea)

I think they're going to award the match to Velez, but unfortunately that will probably take something like 3 months rather than 3 days.

This happens quite often in south america. How often does it take for the league to award the game??

Great now all bets will be voided and I won't be able to touble my money; can't even cash out either since it suspended.

I wonder if San Martin were leading 3-1 and Velez fans did the same thing, I wonder if BF would have settled bets by now

i layed de 0-0 result in final score, (bet i dont know if i cash  for sure), and covered with the more than 0,5 goals, (this bet was considered lost) so a covered bet its not covered, So the 0-0 result in final score is not cashed, and the more than 0,5 goals is so bf should void all bets even the closed ones in order to let us trade safely

i layed de 0-0 result in final score, (bet i dont know if i cash  for sure), and covered with the more than 0,5 goals, (this bet was considered lost) so a covered bet its not covered, So the 0-0 result in final score is not cashed, and the more than 0,5 goals is so bf should void all bets even the closed ones in order to let us trade safely

i find it ridiculous that 2 home fans (thats TWO !!) on top of a fence can cause this

Game wont be replayed ....Argentine FA will award match to Velez imo , either 1-3 or 0-3...from a betting point of view probably voided which will cost me a nice few quid but can't see any other outcome...

Yea but when will betfair close the game since all the bets are going to be voided even though Velez clearly won.

waiting on the very small chance of any replayed match within 3 days..not gonna happen but standard procedure.....worth nearly 300 if result stood but can wave goodbye to that due to two twots on a fence...

read below
it says clearly the match stands or am i mistaken?

http://fussball.wettpoint.com/en/games/1100435.html

I saw that earlier and as I posted before an Argentine site suggests that the result stands...

if result stands do they pay out the match odds?

Tras esta victoria como
visitante, el equipo de Ricardo Gareca vuelve a retomar la senda del triunfo en el torneo local y queda a un punto del líder Boca Juniors, que mañana visitará a Tigre.

From that Argebtine site....Basically saying that after the victory Velez are only a point behind the leaders Boca...

in a nut shell lads..... we've been fuc ked

the game was finished at 87 min ! BETFAIR please give the fuc king win to the VELEZ!

I WANT THE MONEY NOW!

the game was finished at 87 min ! BETFAIR please give the fuc king win to the VELEZ!

I WANT THE MONEY NOW!

If the Argentina FA have given the win to Velez surely BF have to payout for the people who backed Velez but when are they going to fuc king look at the game or are they just going to wait 36 hours for no reason!

The goals market bets should be void, for people who backed over 4.5 goals or more, things like this should be voided, the red cards.. etc. including score bets like 3-2/any unquoted, all other bets that WON should be taken as a WIN because it was a full time match, technically play stopped on 87 minutes, but also technically the REFEREE blew the whistle  on 93 minutes so the match had ended, so where is this money?

The goals market bets should be void, for people who backed over 4.5 goals or more, things like this should be voided, the red cards.. etc. including score bets like 3-2/any unquoted, all other bets that WON should be taken as a WIN because it was a full time match, technically play stopped on 87 minutes, but also technically the REFEREE blew the whistle  on 93 minutes so the match had ended, so where is this money?

The referee def blew for full time.....think it was a few minutes later than 93 mins but he blew

http://www.argentinesoccer.com/indexen.cfm?CFID=60046224&CFTOKEN=38557466 - Clearly states that Velez have won, so if BF void the bets then its just pure BS.

^ doesn't look like a very official site to me

its the best one that came up on google - "argentina football" - rest take you to pages about national team

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1615367.html

It's still stating as being abandoned on the fifa website whereas on the Argentine effivalent of the FA it's suspended :

http://www.afa.org.ar/

The following is the site that matters


http://www.afa.org.ar/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=94

I guess we have to wait to see if they do a reply if not void bets :/

I don't have much tied up on the match but what I find hard to believe is that two blokes on a fence succeed in getting a football match abandoned

very very very hard to believe isnt it mover....unreal

I also can't believe the Velez team would just agree to the match being abandoned without them being awarded the win. It had only been 10 minutes (so not even the length of the half-time break) before it was "abandoned". All very strange.

This needs to be punished, like this team needs to get fined or deducted points, to set example and not happen again.. because teams who are losing can just get their supporters to abandon the match and void it -_-

From what I saw, the Ref was talking to the San Martin players and asking if they were going to give up and they agreed.. thus the whistle being blown..

From what I saw, the Ref was talking to the San Martin players and asking if they were going to give up and they agreed.. thus the whistle being blown..

From what I saw, the Ref was talking to the San Martin players and asking if they were going to give up and they agreed.. thus the whistle being blown..

The ref looked like he ended the game, the commentator even said it but on a lot of websites it states that the game is either suspend or Velez won and betfair are not going to pay out I guess because they don't know which one is correct even though Velez were winning 3-1 with about 6/7 mins to go.

Fairly certain that the Argentine FA will let the 'result' stand , ceratinly no replay, but how that will affect bets I'm not sure....

Does Anybody have written to betfair support to have news?? how can we do to understand what the referee has written in the report?

"Now is the Disciplinary Tribunal of the AFA which will decide what will happen to the game, although it is almost certain that they will give livestock to Velez."

(Google translation from http://www.rionegro.com.ar/diario/velez-ganaba-pero-los-hinchas-sanjuaninos-lo-frenaron-855892-9522-nota.aspx)

Decide faster you lazy bastards, we still got 1.5 days...

STILL NOTHING..RIDICULOUS BETFAIR WITH MULTIPLES MARKET STATUS THE WORST ONE..I AM FEELLING SORRY FOR YOU..YOU HAVE TO BE SAMED...

WTF?! Why void now? Three days aren't over yet!

AVOID..

YOU DONT HAVE THE STRENTH TO PAY MULTIPLE MARKET WHICH IS YOUR WALLET..YOU ARE RIDICULOUS..

Betfair you absolute bastards. After putting £30 on Velez to win @2.42 they have just refunded my bet. I want my £42!

If you were a company willing to invest abroad I'd tell you not to invest in Argentina. If you are a punter I'd tell you not to get involved in any argentinian game.

What an utter load of ****. Last year on the River Plate game I needed a void but betfair chose to pay. Now the exact same sort of thing happens when I had a decent win lined up and they decide to void.

Consistency is all we want. Might have something to do with the fact River were heavy favs last year and were not winning while Velez were favs this time and WERE winning. It's really no worse than theft. This is a self-serving decision which Betfair have made so as to avoid a large liability.

Disgraceful.

Has everyone been refunded? I havnt

I have, can't speak for anyone else though.

May i be the first to say... WALOFS

I also bet on the River Plate game but this game was clearly terminated early by the referee. From a records point the result of both games will stand but there was a lot more time left in this game. It also confirms that you should not cover your bets in different markets, especially where there is a possibility that they will/could be settled  or voided. I had the majority of my bets in the correct score market and that was voided as the rules.It would be better if the rules were ammended to payout on results that could not happen. Payout on 0-0,1-0.0-1 and 1-1.I have been involved in over 10 games when the results have been settled differently by Betfair and Bookmakers.

correct score bet refunded.....match odds bet not refunded

gunna end up banned for over use of the email facility

It doesn't matter. Big companies do whatever they like and, aside from taking our custom elsewhere, there is nothing we can do about it.

after this and the grand national fiasco , the purple one is looking better and better to me

Voided on purple this morning

nothing showing up in matched,lapsed/voided or cancelled

there isnt any where else it will show up is there?

I laid 1-2 correct score in play how is that not inconditonally determined lol all i get is stake back on a winner

why has this been void? it isnt 3 day rule yet and tbh i still expected to be paid out my winnings of a velez back!

am i the only one who hasnt been refunded on the match odds bet then?

scaredmoney you must be, I definately have, contact support.. could of messed it up

cheers stevie

I got refunded, too. Still waiting for an answer from support why it has been voided though.

i had 1k green on all 3 outcomes!
and gets cancelled
shame on you...................

thats harsh play12....very harsh....it beggers belief how just 2 fans on a fence can cause this

voided. most bizarre.
has anyone heard back from Betfair about this after the Void?

nothing yet random.....havnt even been refunded yet

check
> my account
> betting history
status: voided
period: last 7 days

voided bets will be there

this is defo worth challenging, if they have given velez the points its 'official'

does anyone think there is a chance of winning a challenge if i showed green on all outcomes?
given the decision of result?\
what was the decision exactly? result stands? or abandoned match?

"What an utter load of ****. Last year on the River Plate game I needed a void but betfair chose to pay. Now the exact same sort of thing happens when I had a decent win lined up and they decide to void. "

EXACTLY THE SAME TO ME!
BETFAIR IS A REALLY SH**T!!

IDIOTS!

"What an utter load of ****. Last year on the River Plate game I needed a void but betfair chose to pay. Now the exact same sort of thing happens when I had a decent win lined up and they decide to void. "

EXACTLY THE SAME TO ME!
BETFAIR IS A REALLY SH**T!!

IDIOTS!

HOW CAN I CHALLENGE??WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE???

I AM FURIUS WITH BF..THEY DIDNT PAIED MY MULTIPLE.I WILL CALL THEM EVERY DAY NOW ON.

THEY HAVE STOLLEN MY ALMOST 400 EUROS IN THE MULTIPLE MARKET.IT IS UN ACCEPTABLE FROM MY SIDE OF VIEW..