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4 games :

23:30 - Flamengo vs. Lanús

23:30 - Olimpia vs. Emelec

01:50 - Alianza Lima vs. Libertad

01:50 - Nacional vs. Vasco da Gama

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first a question to the experts: does Flamengo still have a theoretical chance to qualify for the next round? i'm not familiar with Copa rules

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By:
surfer rosa
When: 12 Apr 12 21:59
they need to win which will put them in the next round or they are out
By:
surfer rosa
When: 12 Apr 12 22:04
correction they need to win and a draw in the other game
By:
Jinkie
When: 12 Apr 12 22:09
Libtard and Vasco have already qualified, so I'd imagine the 01:50 games are a bit dead....
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 12 Apr 12 22:29
Tempted by 4 home wins. But also tempted to play it safe and go 4 favourites.
By:
TheKingOfKong
When: 12 Apr 12 22:37
Flamengo have to win, at home vs them id fancy them. They only threw it away last week in the last 10minutes. Think they'll be strong enough to overcome them.
By:
TheKingOfKong
When: 12 Apr 12 22:39
Flamengo can do the business at home, just away they struggle.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 12 Apr 12 22:44
Flamengo need a 4 goal turn around in goal differance with Olimpia aswell
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 12 Apr 12 22:48
**** it. gone all 4 favs.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 12 Apr 12 22:51
I done Flamengo and Olimpia double ...... should be straight forward ScaredCrazyCry
By:
surfer rosa
When: 12 Apr 12 22:55
taken from PL

Interesting situaiton tonight in the Lanus group.
Lanus already qualified and will win the group, no arguements there so maybe they will rest some players ?
MNC any news please ?

In summary :
Flamengo must win to have any chance of progressing in combination with relying on a draw in the other match tonight
If there is a winner at Olimpia v Emelec then that team will progress
If Olimpia draw and Flamengo win, Flamengo progress on goal difference as they have +4 goals over Olimpia at start of play

I don't think the home win for Olimpia is as obvious as their home stats suggests. I saw the game they lost 6-0 away at Lanus, it was the first time they'd be beaten by more than two goals in their previous 85 anywhere, and that was only by a 1-4 margin. Olimpia were absolute crap against Lanus in that 6-0 and should have lost by many more goals than that. Can we put it down to a one off performance for Olimpia ? Possibly, because they rarely ever lose by more than 1 goal in a match. I've seen Emelec twice in this tournament, on both occasions they had a player sent off in the first half, thats consistency for you ! They pulled out a shock 3-2 win in the previous match in the round so maybe its possible they can get something tonight ? Both teams must win this, but Emelec havent scored a goal in either of their other two aways in this tournament, though only lost each of them 1-0. A winner in this fixture will progress whatever the result at Flamengo.
Last edited by Nervous Anorak; Today at 20:20.
By:
johnny98345
When: 12 Apr 12 23:00
another interesting fact:
last time that Olimpia lost at home was 30/10/11 against Libertad (0-2)
By:
scaredmoney
When: 12 Apr 12 23:00
My mistake on the GD...illiterate **** wit Cry
By:
TheKingOfKong
When: 12 Apr 12 23:05
Have to admit, the fact Flamengo have to realy go for it and get goals makes it more tempting on them to win. Since Lanus have qualified, probaly rest players.
By:
DJH7
When: 12 Apr 12 23:06
Im feeling goals in Flamengo but don't know whether to go with that or the home win hmm
By:
Jacko22
When: 12 Apr 12 23:08
Yeah ive gone for a flamengo/Olimpia double stake 30 @ 3.00 :) come on!
By:
Horangi.
When: 12 Apr 12 23:09
Flamengo have virtually no hope, tough to call that game.  Emelec and Olimpia will be going kamikaze attacking late if the match is level and Flamengo is winning. 

Flamengo will surely not be up for it.
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 12 Apr 12 23:11
TheKingOfKong 12 Apr 12 23:05 
Have to admit, the fact Flamengo have to realy go for it and get goals makes it more tempting on them to win.





Why do they need to go for goals? They just need to win and hope the other game is a draw, that's the only way they can qualify.
By:
TheKingOfKong
When: 12 Apr 12 23:14
I misread the above, Oopsie. Still fancy them masively though.
By:
addrian
When: 12 Apr 12 23:14
flamengo will do their job and win and then if the draw happens they will be happy if not at least they tried..flamengo win for me and unders in olimpia games
By:
Jacko22
When: 12 Apr 12 23:14
PORTUGUESA SP V (JUVENTUDE) over 7.0???? outside bet?
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 12 Apr 12 23:17
Strong Flamengo lineup:

Felipe; Léo Moura, Welinton, González e Junior Cesar ; Willians, L. Antônio e Bottinelli; Ronaldinho, Deivid e Love.
By:
DJH7
When: 12 Apr 12 23:18
What about the lanus lineup?
By:
Horangi.
When: 12 Apr 12 23:19
Lanus is going for the top of the group and is starting a strong team.

Personally laying Flamengo.

    Flamengo

    GOL Felipe
    LAD Léo Moura
    ZAD Marcos González
    ZAE Welinton
    LAE Junior Cesar
    VOL Willians
    VOL Muralha
    MEC Bottinelli
    MEC Ronaldinho Gaúcho
    ATA Deivid
    ATA Vagner Love


    4-4-2 Lanús

    GOL Marchesín
    LAD Carlos Araujo
    ZAD Paolo Goltz
    ZAE Diego Braghieri
    LAE Luciano Balbi
    VOL Camoranesi
    VOL Matías Fritzler
    MEC Guido Pizarro
    MEC Diego Valeri
    ATA Regueiro
    ATA Mariano Pavone
By:
Jinkie
When: 12 Apr 12 23:20
Doesn't look like Lanus are playing the b-team....

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast/_/id/335576?cc=5739

....but on the other hand it would require some crazy scores for them not to fonish first.
By:
DJH7
When: 12 Apr 12 23:20
Gonna go overs in Lanus then
By:
POT.NOODLE.HEAD
When: 12 Apr 12 23:22
interesting drift on olimpia
By:
Biscuit1979
When: 12 Apr 12 23:22
Strange that they're fielding a strong side when the group is already won
By:
striingerbell
When: 12 Apr 12 23:22
should be a good night :D
By:
Horangi.
When: 12 Apr 12 23:22
Seems like Flamengo going over all the time lately.  Lanus can be a defensive side but given the somewhat carefree circumstances they might be willing to play an open game with the Brazilians.
By:
Jinkie
When: 12 Apr 12 23:26
"Strange that they're fielding a strong side when the group is already won"

Well, if both home teams tonight win 7-0 then Lanus would finish second in the group.

Better safe than sorry.....
By:
drewboy
When: 12 Apr 12 23:27
Think both of these earlier games should have goals but saving my money to back Alianza to beat Libertad later
By:
TALKSPORT
When: 12 Apr 12 23:28
well ive had a fiver treble for interest over 2.5 in the early games and vasco later in a treble.gl.
By:
dmd88
When: 12 Apr 12 23:31
i've gone for a flamengo/olimpia double
By:
darrenw
When: 12 Apr 12 23:31
i'm in on flamengo match over 2.5
By:
keenttheking
When: 12 Apr 12 23:32
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By:
Jinkie
When: 12 Apr 12 23:32
I dunno...tempted to go overs in the Lanus game but then 10 minutes in Flamengo discover that Olimpia have already gone two goals up and stop playing. Lanus think 'If Olimpia score 10 then we'd better have a shot on goal'.

In short...this is going to be 4-4 or 0-0.
By:
GALLZ
When: 12 Apr 12 23:34
to back goals or flamengo.....
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 12 Apr 12 23:38
Sitter missed by Emelec.
By:
diggler101
When: 12 Apr 12 23:42
fast pace start..... gaols im thinking
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