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I CANT BE BACKING UNITED AT THIS PRICE MIGHT WAIT, QPR COULD PARK THE PROVERBIAL BUS FOR THE FIRST HALF PRICE SHOULD RISE TO ATLEAST 1.4 OR .5
BUT I THINK THE TITLE IS OVER FOR CITY
BUT I THINK THE TITLE IS OVER FOR CITY
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not watching the game so not seen young's apparent "dive", have to say he does have form for this sort of thing though,
I don't understand if it were so blatent why the FA don't hand out retrospective punishments for this kind of thing, at the very best it's gamesmanship and at worst it's just plain cheating,
the knock on effect is United probably pick up the points and QPR lose a player for the relegation battle which could end up costing them a place in the league.
hate how the FA jump upon any critisism of ref's too, if every now and again they came out after and game and held up their hands and said "this is what I saw at the time" and looking back maybe I was wrong, it wouldn't change results but I think people would have a hell of a lot more respect for them instead of them avoiding everything and the FA handing out fines like confetti...
the only official they didn't fully get behind was Sian Massey and she's the only one that's not made a complete balls up thus far!
I don't understand if it were so blatent why the FA don't hand out retrospective punishments for this kind of thing, at the very best it's gamesmanship and at worst it's just plain cheating,
the knock on effect is United probably pick up the points and QPR lose a player for the relegation battle which could end up costing them a place in the league.
hate how the FA jump upon any critisism of ref's too, if every now and again they came out after and game and held up their hands and said "this is what I saw at the time" and looking back maybe I was wrong, it wouldn't change results but I think people would have a hell of a lot more respect for them instead of them avoiding everything and the FA handing out fines like confetti...
the only official they didn't fully get behind was Sian Massey and she's the only one that's not made a complete balls up thus far!
Taraabt quality from him!! Come on QPR games not over by a long way, just need confidence, balls and a cheeky dive 
This game proves just how piss poor Man Utd are... Can't even batter a 10 man QPR!!
Sorry Loaded but you sound like Alan Smith, effectively condoning cheating. If diving is seen as "clever" rather than wrong, then this sport is finished.
mrfishfingers
Firstly, perhaps you shouldn't call someone an idiot unless you're sure that you understand their point. Secondly, you really should have understood it, as I summarised it in my post.
My point was to offer an example of two incidents; both quite similar, one for Man Utd and one against. Only one was commented on, guess which?
imo, it's the same with big and small decisions. The people against Man Utd (as they were Liverpool in the 70's and 80's) will highlight the errors in their favour, but not against them. It's a psychological thing and people genuinely believe it, but in reality, it's far fetched and lacking evidence.
Firstly, perhaps you shouldn't call someone an idiot unless you're sure that you understand their point. Secondly, you really should have understood it, as I summarised it in my post.
My point was to offer an example of two incidents; both quite similar, one for Man Utd and one against. Only one was commented on, guess which?
imo, it's the same with big and small decisions. The people against Man Utd (as they were Liverpool in the 70's and 80's) will highlight the errors in their favour, but not against them. It's a psychological thing and people genuinely believe it, but in reality, it's far fetched and lacking evidence.
fish I don't condone cheating, I say why wouldn't he if he can get away with it. Ref's fault and should have been yellow/red for Young, it's up to the lino and the ref. I hate diving and cheating but I said the same thing when Perch fell over like a pansy, he might not get sent off if he didn't act.
Shrugging my shoulders Jason- I understand what you're saying, just not why.
My counter-argument, as I think Peeler's is, is that everything you say is irrelevant in light of the current scoreline.
Current score with refs help- 1-0.
Score without refs mistake 0-0.
Bias aside, you can't dispute the fact above.
My counter-argument, as I think Peeler's is, is that everything you say is irrelevant in light of the current scoreline.
Current score with refs help- 1-0.
Score without refs mistake 0-0.
Bias aside, you can't dispute the fact above.
Jason surely you must think some games are suspect
There is apparently a prem international with 2 injunctions against papers over match fixing on relegation matches on the final day of last season
There is apparently a prem international with 2 injunctions against papers over match fixing on relegation matches on the final day of last season
i cant understand how wellbeck is so highly rated by all these so called pro's or ex pro's. He is useless
peeler, I traded out u1.5 from 1.07 lay backed at 1.21 to rid liability but holding out for 1.6 likely to end 1-0
TELL YOU WHAT BERBATOV WOULD HAVE SCORED ALL THESE WELBECK CHANCES.... EVEN MICHAEL OWEN
could be a late equaliser from QPR and united layers will be laughing
price on united has risen a tick will go higher if it stays like this
Yes you can, mr fishfingers.
That's another relevant point, I remember seeing a game this season, or last, where Zat Knight should have been sent off at 0-0 at Old Trafford. Man Utd went onto to win the game.
To claim it'd definitely be 0-0 now is ludicrous, particularly the way the game was going.
And by the way - that, as a reply, suggests you're still missing my point.
That's another relevant point, I remember seeing a game this season, or last, where Zat Knight should have been sent off at 0-0 at Old Trafford. Man Utd went onto to win the game.
To claim it'd definitely be 0-0 now is ludicrous, particularly the way the game was going.
And by the way - that, as a reply, suggests you're still missing my point.
its a betting law I have, where I believe no goal is over 80% likely to come.
Funnily enough, I made this law after the United Fulham game
god dam it. Great strike, but he did have 5 or 6 awful shots before that
Thats a terrible shame. Was looking forward to a last minute equaliser
Great idea Alex, but that's my tip and you can't take it from me.
Back over 3.5 goals, QPR will tire and united with score more... they can attack as QPR scoring isnt a prob now
Apr 8, 2012 -- 2:51PM, jason-dodd wrote:
Yes you can, mr fishfingers.That's another relevant point, I remember seeing a game this season, or last, where Zat Knight should have been sent off at 0-0 at Old Trafford. Man Utd went onto to win the game.To claim it'd definitely be 0-0 now is ludicrous, particularly the way the game was going.And by the way - that, as a reply, suggests you're still missing my point.
What a surprise, I log on and the 1st thing i see is you making a cu nt of yourself arguing with everyone because you dont have a life anywhere else once again!!...
What a sad tool you are and tbh the most hated forumite on here by the looks !
Jason- I see I have fallen into your trap, you are just spouting nonsense for the sake, get off the forum and leave it for people to discuss this game in a betting context please.
That goal means I'll leave my o2.5 for small stakes. No way this utd side will break my big u7.5.
That goal means I'll leave my o2.5 for small stakes. No way this utd side will break my big u7.5.
mrfishfingers
I will stay right where I am, thanks.
The only person spouting nonsense is you.
I will stay right where I am, thanks.
The only person spouting nonsense is you.
don't back over 3.5, before the goal i it was a good idea, not now. QPR want to lose by as little goals as possible. they will fight till the whistle. I have gone under 4.5 at 1.12
Dr Cypionate logs on forum and into seethe mode. Pleasing 
haha fish I traded out my u6.5 at 1.06 after the first goal cos I'm a mug.
2/1 is awful price on them, highly likely to be 1-1 late in the match. Would rather hold out for a better price hoping arsenal score first.
arsenals record not much worse than city's but everyone sees City 3's I want some of that.
Jason- I was discussing simulation in the game.
You brought up such succinct points as Liverpool in the 70s and Zat Knight
QPR looking more adventurous after the 2nd unfortunately
You brought up such succinct points as Liverpool in the 70s and Zat Knight
QPR looking more adventurous after the 2nd unfortunately
traded out of u4.5 at 1.06, won more than my united lay now. It's been a pleasure, teach me to lay united at value prices 
QPR are dumb, thats exactly how Scholes scored. Wake the fluck up and close him down you plum!
Apr 8, 2012 -- 3:04PM, henok wrote:
how are these mugs not scoring
did you watch them vs Fulham?
mrfishfingers
My point was made as a standalone, it had nothing to do with whatever you were posting about.
If people are replying, they tend to state it. You'd do well to look out for that before pressing the abuse button.
My point was made as a standalone, it had nothing to do with whatever you were posting about.
If people are replying, they tend to state it. You'd do well to look out for that before pressing the abuse button.
I hope QPR get relegated, they aren't closing them down. Gave him at least 10 seconds with no worries to pick out that last pass.
I just tend to read the forum and not contribute but one thing i can't understand is why anyone engages Jason Dodd in conversation, the guy is a wind up merchant who'd argue with his own shadow, guaranteed he has no bird and lives in his mum's attic. Grade A Pea-nigh
massive price on u2.5 in last 10 minutes. you have to pick 1/2 games without a goal in last 10 to break even.
loadedgimp i am notsure i watched that game, but aganst 10 player qpr side they should scor 3 or 4. in addtion ferguson was talking about scoring many goals in one of his recent interviews
I just tend to read the forum and not contribute
Joined 17th Feb.
Course you do.
Joined 17th Feb.
Course you do.
9% chance of their being as many goals in 5 minutes as there was in 85
Benayoun in, Chamberlain out
Man C Arsenal- hoping for a low scoring game
Man C Arsenal- hoping for a low scoring game
Apr 8, 2012 -- 3:08PM, skint-gambler wrote:
I just tend to read the forum and not contribute but one thing i can't understand is why anyone engages Jason Dodd in conversation, the guy is a wind up merchant who'd argue with his own shadow, guaranteed he has no bird and lives in his mum's attic. Grade A Pea-nigh
Formally known as Vornander Pratt...
Loaded- I took that concept to the extreme and started backing no goals with seconds left- risky but v. profitable
traded out of u3.5 at 1.04
fish it's only risky if you think about an individual bet. if you think about the strike rate needed or percentage gained from each bet then with level stakes it is wholly possible.
people backed united at 1.2 to win - I laid u1.5 at 1.07 and backed 1.21 difference of 14% (7% equal green) I didn't trade all out but I won back 20% of my united lay. If you do level stakes then build up a profit bank to play with it's the way to win here.
fish it's only risky if you think about an individual bet. if you think about the strike rate needed or percentage gained from each bet then with level stakes it is wholly possible.
people backed united at 1.2 to win - I laid u1.5 at 1.07 and backed 1.21 difference of 14% (7% equal green) I didn't trade all out but I won back 20% of my united lay. If you do level stakes then build up a profit bank to play with it's the way to win here.
I would have backed united 1.03 if I hadn't laid them already.
and think of under/over 2.5 odds pre kick off, after 1st and 2nd goals. can't see a way to profit backing over 2.5 before kick-off unless expecting a 7 goal game.
Totally agree- building up banks is the way to go, when I lose its frustrating, but I'm ultimately losing profit from past bets.
Its not like randomly putting a months wages on at short odds just once, which is suicide
Its not like randomly putting a months wages on at short odds just once, which is suicide
anyone know when the earliest they can settle the prem winner market??
domination from united, but lacked the finishing touch, welbeck was awful - rooney silent - scholes decent but you never really notice a decent CM's work.
wellbeck very poor, dont rate him, feel sorry for berbatov
Had a scorecast of Rooney - 3-0 ...... £10 @ 20/1.....
Covered it at 80 minutes with £20 on 2-0 @ 2.2 but was hoping for that final goal which should have happened, carrick even hit the bloody post and rafael missed a sitter.... shocking game
Covered it at 80 minutes with £20 on 2-0 @ 2.2 but was hoping for that final goal which should have happened, carrick even hit the bloody post and rafael missed a sitter.... shocking game
Talksport commentators really grate my gears. The way they went on, and are still going on about this game, you'd think United were going to win by 5 or 6 goals. It affects your judgement to hear all that crap. I was on unders and was needing a sedative after listening to these ballons going on about how many goals were going to be in this game. And look at the outcome!! Pretty much how I imagined it to be with me laying ten minutes before the end to avoid the usual last minute goal dash. Why does everybody get swept up in this. Manu are scraping results. Everybody knows that. They will probably scrape the title with Webb and company on the books. But what they aren't is Barcelona or UCD with big goal triumphs every week. I'm not listening to that muck anymore. I can make my own mind up ususlly before a game and by watching the match I can ususlly tell where its going. But with these knobs pecking your head by bigging up what is a cobbled together team, albeit a prem leading team because everybody else just happens to be worse this season, they are contributing to the myth. W***ers.
Utd have just managed to beat a relegation battling QPR who were reduced to 10 men by what was , apparently, I haven't seen it, a dodgy decision. This reduced QPR to 10 men who then proceeded to defend like tigers. But the Big Red is all you hear about as though they are the best.
What we now have in the Prem is a league of competitive teams. From top to bottom, there is competition. Except of course in the middle at the moment were there is a lot of holiday booking going on. But nevertheless, the top is not all that ahead of the bottom imho. I'm not convinced.
Utd have just managed to beat a relegation battling QPR who were reduced to 10 men by what was , apparently, I haven't seen it, a dodgy decision. This reduced QPR to 10 men who then proceeded to defend like tigers. But the Big Red is all you hear about as though they are the best.
What we now have in the Prem is a league of competitive teams. From top to bottom, there is competition. Except of course in the middle at the moment were there is a lot of holiday booking going on. But nevertheless, the top is not all that ahead of the bottom imho. I'm not convinced.
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