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polybot
23 Mar 12 09:01
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am i right that if melbourne lose and finish last of the six it will give them a home advantage in the second finals game?
that aside, adelaide don't need the win and will rest players but the replacements will be keen to impress.
no heat problems in adelaide tonight at around 15 degrees.
not sure what to make of this, any ideas?
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Report ShirleyKnot March 23, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
I reckon that the u/o market has over reacted and under 2.5 and 3.5 are now too short. (1.85 & 1.34)
Report lachy1234 March 23, 2012 8:32 AM GMT
Very tough pick tonight. Could be 0-0  or 4-4. Anything can happen, not touching this tonight.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 8:39 AM GMT
The 6th place team plays away to 3rd in a one off match, 5th plays away to 4th. Now Melbourne need to get a win otherwise they will play away to wellington in the finals and nobody wants that. So a win will get them a bit of a better away match to perth in the finals. Add this to Adelaide's midweek hangover, they played good but will have tired legs and kosmina will take no chances. I have to go for melbourne heart here.

Tip: Melbourne Heart or lay of Adelaide
Report lachy1234 March 23, 2012 8:41 AM GMT
Yeah having a quick look Adelaide need to at least draw to miss out on wooden spoon and Heart can't afford to lose. Over 1.5 is prob the best bet along with a Adelaide Lay.
Report ShirleyKnot March 23, 2012 8:43 AM GMT
Adelaide do look a bit big now at 3.1 but perhaps I have missed some team news that has caused that drift.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 8:46 AM GMT
Yeah, i was thinking they would be priced 2.80 - 2.90
Report polybot March 23, 2012 8:48 AM GMT
probabilities are that perth finish top of the 4, meaning if melbourne remain in 3rd they get wellington away
win/draw would suit adelaide, loss/draw for melb would mean they may avoid a difficult away in wellington in exchange for a home game, either they probably have to play perth away sometime in the finals
Report test256 March 23, 2012 8:51 AM GMT
so playing devils advocate here - 0-0 would suit them both?
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 8:55 AM GMT
Teams that come 5th or 6th don't get a home game. Either way they are playing away
Report polybot March 23, 2012 8:56 AM GMT
if i were melb a loss is what i'd go for presuming perth beats victory and ccm beat or draw wellington and that the 1 v 4 winner gets home advantage
i have no idea if melb agrees with me though.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
1 and 2 play home and away for 2 legs . the rest play a one of match. I get what your saying in that it a win could inadvertently get them an away match at wellington
Report test256 March 23, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
yes some argie teams been doing that week in week out Angry
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:00 AM GMT
yes bj that's half of it, the bit i'm unclear about is how they decide who gets the second game home advantage.
Report ShirleyKnot March 23, 2012 9:04 AM GMT
I have played this small for all green but I can tell you what will happen Heart will win because that is my worst result.  This is virtually guaranteed. Sad
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:06 AM GMT
Pretty sure its the teams that come 3rd or 4th that gets the 2nd home game.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:07 AM GMT
Oh well if both 3rd and 4th lose , 5th gets the home match
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:07 AM GMT
finally found it, yes you're right bj

"The highest placed team to advance to Match D will be considered the ‘home’ team."
Report aladdinek March 23, 2012 9:07 AM GMT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_A-League
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:08 AM GMT
Its a rubbish finals system. It awards mediocrity. They are changing it to top 4 next season
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:09 AM GMT
Not sure what to do here.  As lachy says, it's very unpredictable given the varying form of Adelaide, wooden spoon, Heart's play off ambitions etc etc.  I would usually say unders, but I can only get 1.83 after 3 mins.

I'll watch and might do something in play depending on how things unfold.
Report RMB © March 23, 2012 9:10 AM GMT
Heart clearly here to win and seem motivated, as do Adelaide (who have made 5 changes, guessing that was the reason behind their drift). MH slightly on top atm.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:11 AM GMT
though finishing 5th will probably get meld an away game to welly and then to perth
while finishing 6th will probably get them an away game to perth and then to welly
I'd take the second option
Report RMB © March 23, 2012 9:11 AM GMT

Mar 23, 2012 -- 10:11AM, polybot wrote:


though finishing 5th will probably get meld an away game to welly and then to perthwhile finishing 6th will probably get them an away game to perth and then to wellyI'd take the second option


Don't think  it matters, both teams clearly going for the win.

Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:12 AM GMT
Out of the fire into the frying pan for teams 5th and 6th if they win
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:22 AM GMT
Heart on top but not creating much.  I took a bit of 0-0 at 12.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:22 AM GMT
Boring match so far
Report test256 March 23, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
yes it is rather.
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:26 AM GMT
Not a single effort on goal worth speaking of in 20 mins.  A Heart goal is needed to wake Adelaide up.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:27 AM GMT
Adelaide playing 10 men behind the ball in preparation for their next ACL match. First shot all game then
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:29 AM GMT
That's about 5 times Heart have gifted Adelaide a goal kick with over hit passes.  Comical.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:29 AM GMT
They are overplaying everything tonight.
Report test256 March 23, 2012 9:30 AM GMT
starting to wake up now.
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:32 AM GMT
Shot on target !
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:36 AM GMT
looks like a training ground game
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:41 AM GMT
Pen adelaide
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
Pen. Adelaide always seem to get something from set pieces!
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
10 pens a game if you give those.
Report argyle_green March 23, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
1-0
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
1-0
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
Yeah, very soft pen
Report test256 March 23, 2012 9:43 AM GMT
aw craw. was hoping for mht to score first.
Report icfkev March 23, 2012 9:43 AM GMT
joke ref but it was too close to him good lay here adelaide look bad
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:43 AM GMT
adelaide no shots on goal, 1-0 up
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:44 AM GMT
No-one even appeals.  Really, really poor decision.
Report Arai March 23, 2012 9:46 AM GMT
Good for my Lay 0-0 though.
Report test256 March 23, 2012 9:49 AM GMT
2-0 might be possible adilay playing better after the pen.
Report luckycharm01 March 23, 2012 9:50 AM GMT
I dont care, just need one more goal please
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 9:54 AM GMT
As bad a half as you could imagine.  No idea how Adelaide are 1 up but expect them to go on and win now.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 9:57 AM GMT
adelaide's using reserve players and next game is ten days away, melbourne will be thinking about injuries and maybe reds for next week. should give adelaide an edge in the second half but both sides poor.
Report luckycharm01 March 23, 2012 9:57 AM GMT
Do you think there are more goals in this ?
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:01 AM GMT
backed the 3-0 at 50. and 80. but at this rate will be surprised to see another 2 goals from either team, could be a different story second half though
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 10:02 AM GMT
Of course, goals are always possible so we're all only guessing.  But the evidence of the first half was that it was tight, slow, poor quality and with very few chances.  I wouldn't want to be staking big on more goals unless either or both teams come out with a different attitude in the second half.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:03 AM GMT
Laugh commentator Mel saying it's very cold in adelaide, at 16 degrees.
Report test256 March 23, 2012 10:04 AM GMT
scottish summer weather Cool
Report test256 March 23, 2012 10:10 AM GMT
im out of my lay draw. no loss 10 up if its a draw. can see a late draw, but with the odds moving slowly.
Report Barca-Martillo March 23, 2012 10:15 AM GMT
Is the stream on betfair doan for anyone else?
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:16 AM GMT
was that the first shot on goal for adelaide?
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 10:17 AM GMT
No way heart have 2 more goals in them
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:29 AM GMT
it's almost like adelaide want melbourne to score, maybe they're all on the 1-1
Report bjquick March 23, 2012 10:29 AM GMT
GOAL 1:1
Report RMB © March 23, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
1-1 great goal. Justice to say the least.
Report test256 March 23, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
seen that comming 4 ages - glad im out of my ltd.
Report luckycharm01 March 23, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
yeahhhhhhhhhh
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
What's the keeper doing.  Didn't even bother trying to save a shot straight down the middle.
Report liggy0 March 23, 2012 10:31 AM GMT
just laid adelaide 1.56 could it be a good start to the day,
Report RMB © March 23, 2012 10:33 AM GMT
Nearly 1-2
Report test256 March 23, 2012 10:34 AM GMT
smallest bets ive ever made, but pleased im not desperate 4 a goal now.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:34 AM GMT
short of kicking the ball into their own net i don't if adelaide could do anymore to help...
Report RMB © March 23, 2012 10:35 AM GMT
Almost great ball.
Report berto77 March 23, 2012 10:36 AM GMT
Worm on.  That should blunt the Heart attack.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 10:47 AM GMT
maybe the adelaide players have lumped on a melb win, but the melb players don't want to have to fly to wellington next week
Report test256 March 23, 2012 10:56 AM GMT
ok i still lost money, but nowhere near as much as i would have had i kept my origional bet going - so im ok with that.
Report polybot March 23, 2012 11:06 AM GMT
overall a loss for me too, recovered most on the HT result and the draw. strange display from adelaide who weren't really attacking or defending.
Report wooky March 23, 2012 11:10 AM GMT
knowing this was a meaningless match I went for the draw...basically threw everything i had left on the draw chasing losses from the wta bets Crazy.....now I have my money back...time for more wta bets Crazy
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