Deluded Fans of the English Premiership

Does it really bother you that much that you have to write 8 lines?

Blimey.

The only 'supporters' of the EPL are pundits and journos.  Everybody else supports their club.

I don't think anyone really believes it's the best league in the world anymore. There are far too many English players playing for the EPL teams (still) that aren't upto scratch. It's the reason behind Manures european demise this season, too many English players. Sad but true. Segunda B teams have more skills than a lot of these English teams.

Mr Angry....I always like to make myself perfectly clear.  Sorry if it annoyed you but it was 6 lines and not 8. I apologise in advance if you have difficulties with the concept of numbers/counting.

I think it was very important that you get that off your chest.

You are reading too much into one bad season, it's a blip that's all. EPL sides will rule Europe next season as usual.

English league best. Only madrid and Barcelona break this.

When chelsea win the champions league you will have conclusive proof right?

high_lander
15 Mar 12 22:07
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You are reading too much into one bad season, it's a blip that's all. EPL sides will rule Europe next season as usual.


^this. The seethers have been waiting a decade for this. Let it all out chaps

Stop talking in riddles.

Mar 15, 2012 -- 10:56PM, Pollensa wrote:

Mr Angry....I always like to make myself perfectly clear.

10 lines and 5 sentences I SEE

go work on a building site stupid polish.

joke league joke country

spanish own you

Where are you from TMO?

Delusuional is a ManUtd fan (Panboreica) who claims that despite ManU being abysmal multiple times this season in the CL and Europa League that they would dispatch Bilbao no probs if it was a CL match!

R0y how can you say this is the first season in ten that EPL teams have dominated the Champions League?

There have been more Spanish teams than English in the semi finals for three years running now and La Liga will be the top ranked league in europe next year.

Also you cant just dismiss Barcelona and Madrid to make a point. Like it or not both these teams play in Spain and are part of the La Liga argument.

La Liga miles ahead of EPL.  Top team in England turned ocer by the middle of the table team in Spain.

Euro 12 should be interesting viewing

high_lander 15 Mar 12 22:07 
You are reading too much into one bad season, it's a blip that's all. EPL sides will rule Europe next season as usual.




If this is just 'a blip' then what was the excuse last season when we had just one premier league side in the semis or the season before when we had none? This year will mean that in the last 3 seasons of the 12 semi final places available, just ONE was taken by an English side.
In addition to that, EVERY single time an English side has faced a Spanish side in the knockout stages of both the champions league AND the Europa league in the last 3 years, the Spanish side has won. If it's a blip, it's a f*cking long one.

Let's face it, the premier league is no longer the best league in the world. It's the most exciting league. But for skill, technique, passing etc, la Liga is now a long way ahead of our league.

Biscuit... those figures are mainly because of one club (Barcelona) who have dominated the CL for the past few years. Barcelona are exceptional, the rest of the Spanish sides are very beatable albeit RM have improved a lot under Mourinho. A this moment Barca and RM are probably 1 & 2 in Europe, but it wont last for much longer. When Mourinho leaves RM will go downhill and whatever British club he ends up at will improve rapidly.

I still say for strength and depth the EPL is the top league in the world, hell even the likes of Birmingham from the Championship took some scalps in Europe this season. Also EPL sides would do much better in the Europa League if any of them cared about winning it, it's obvious that they don't. The bigger clubs see it as an unwelcome obstacle to top 4/title ambitions, the other clubs see it as a problem to EPL survival/top 6 ambitions.

In conclusion, this is really about Barcelona and Mourinho, take those 2 out of the equation and the EPL dominate Europe.

Bayern have knocked out utd and city recently, if the two Spanish sides are way ahead, then they are next best

English sides have also been knocked out by Valencia, Bilbao and Atletico Madrid in recent years though so it's not all Barca and Real. If the strength and depth of our league is so vast, surely we should be disposing of these second rate spaniards?

And i still don't buy this 'not caring' about the Europa. Professional footballers always want to win. If Fergie didn't care would he have played a strong side last night? Rooney certainly wouldn't have started if he didn't care, he'd have played Berbatov. And are you telling me City didn't care in that 2nd half last night?

English clubs hiding behind the "we don't care" excuse now they're out is pretty poor to be honest. Our 2 top sides have been knocked out of Europe TWICE by March. Says it all really.

You're talking about the Europa league with Valencia, Bilbao and At Madrid, right? I refer you to my previous statement on the Europa League.

Fergie didn't play a very strong side yesterday, it was mix of reserve players and first teamers. And it was obvious they gave up at half-time. IMO Man City threw last nights game to concentrate on the EPL title race. Will you now tell me that Portuguese football is better than the EPL? Maybe you really believe Sporting are better than City? They should give City an Oscar for their 2nd half performance though. They reminded me on the racehorse left far too much to do by the jockey, finishing very strongly but never quite going to get there.

I would like to see the EPL sides try and win the Europa league but the truth is they see it a nuisance, come on have you not heard Harry Rednapp moan about it?! At least he's honest. They have to find a way to make the Europa Cup worth winning.

I stand by what I said, the EPL is still number one and no other nation comes close to its strength in depth.

Bayern Munich are a very good side and are the only side in Germany that can compete with ManU, Barca, RM. I thought they were very lucky to knock out ManU, Utd down to 10 men unfairly imo and a wonder goal threaded through the eye of a needle.

"Fergie didn't play a very strong side yesterday"


De Gea, Rafael, evans, rio, evra, carrick, giggs, young, rooney are all current first teamers. How is that not a strong side?



"IMO Man City threw last nights game"

Yes it looked that way, you could tell that Joe Hart wasn't really trying to score and they wanted to go out

Anyway i stand by my earlier comment, the premier league is the most exciting league, but it's not the best.

So who exactly were Man U "trying" against this season in Europe???

That's not Fergie's top side, it's half and half and he took off Rio early. Rooney wants to play every game.
Carrick is no longer a first choice and Young is behind Valencia and Nani in the pecking order.

My main concern is with the Europa League, they have to find a way of making it more appealing. How about a guaranteed CL slot to the finalists? I mean straight into the league, no prelims.

If you truly believe City tried 100% to qualify yesterday, then you are very naive indeed.

So were Man city trying in the champs league or were they not bovvered either???

City were trying 100% in the CL, I think lack of European experience as a team cost them dearly there. It was also a very tough group, they were unlucky with the draw.

ManU grossly underestimated their opponents and paid the price.

If they sre not "bothered" about the UEFA cup why the fcuk are they trying so hard for the top 4 this gets them into the Champions League right,where they have no earthly chance.

Is that a serious question Barney?

M O N E Y !

And of course they have a serious chance of winning it.

Every excuse going

Some desperate acts of straw clutching going on here from the EPL fanboys.

FWIW the live UEFA coefficient ranking system now has Spain above England. By the seasons end that gap will have significantly extended. Spain have 5 times left in Europe vs England's 1.

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2013.html

HTH

*teams

So high_lander, in your opinion City were 100% trying in CL but got knocked out
But when they get knocked out of the Europa, it's naive to think they were trying.

It's jsut a blip, next 3 years EPL clubs will dominate Europe as usual

You're taking the biscuit if you think City cant knock out a side like Sporting lisbon

they can?

highlander the EPL teams  havent dominated for the last three years.

So if they did for the next three it would be a turn around and not 'domination as usual' as so many people seem to like to say.

"domination as usual" meaning like they have done for the past... ever

Listen to what Fergie said last night about Atl Bilbao..that their work rate was the highest he has seen in Europe and that they posses real skill..hence he concedes they were beat by a better team...and they are number 7 in La Liga..Spain has the best teams and players across the national players..How long will Llorente stay in Spain? What EPL does have is money to buy talent..

I've long said that the Premier League is riding for a fall and the drop in quality has been evident in the last 2 seasons. The real problem is this: if the decline continues, the best players will drift away – not just to Spain, but even to places like Russia where wealthier investors are starting to buy up football teams. The attraction of buying Premier League clubs, or even remaining at them, will also decline – after all, why would a Russian oligarch bother with Chelsea when clubs in other countries can win European trophies? The wider issue is that the Premier League is not sustainable in its current form. Clubs consistently make heavy losses, television revenues cannot possibly hope to match salaries of six figures per week, and in any case the overall “marketing” of football will inevitably decline in hardened financial times.

The 100,000 a week salaries depend on 45 quid shirts and 60 quid tickets and with people tightening their belts, that's a financial model which no longer adds up. Instead, EPL clubs follow the "Gretna model" depending on Arab billionaires, Russian oligarchs or American super-investors – but all those rich guys have other options now. How long before Abramovich for example gets tired of bankrolling Chelsea? He's obviously not the most patient of people....

Just like the real economy, it’ll only take one drip to create the flood. Losing a club or two (even down the food chain) or a fourth Champions’ League place will soon create the trickle.

high-lander I am about to tread on very insecure grounds  and I certainly do not want to insult you but do you have learning difficulties ? The reason for my questioning is that your defence of the EPL has no substance whatsoever but before I address such defincies I would be most obliged if you could inform me that you do indeed do not have any aforementioned difficulties.

high-lander I am about to tread on very insecure grounds  and I certainly do not want to insult you but do you have learning difficulties ? The reason for my questioning is that your defence of the EPL has no substance whatsoever but before I address such defincies I would be most obliged if you could inform me that you do indeed do not have any aforementioned difficulties.

high-lander I am about to tread on very insecure grounds  and I certainly do not want to insult you but do you have learning difficulties ? The reason for my questioning is that your defence of the EPL has no substance whatsoever but before I address such defincies I would be most obliged if you could inform me that you do indeed do not have any aforementioned difficulties.

high-lander I am about to tread on very insecure grounds  and I certainly do not want to insult you but do you have learning difficulties ? The reason for my questioning is that your defence of the EPL has no substance whatsoever but before I address such defincies I would be most obliged if you could inform me that you do indeed do not have any aforementioned difficulties.

Sorry for the response being repeated

"I certainly do not want to insult you but do you have learning difficulties ?"

Who would ever find that insulting?

I know you probably think that you are being clever, think you're a fisherman or whatever. But your statement is just so idiotic that I now have zero respect for you. You have just made a total C*** of yourself. I really don't want to talk to you, not because I am insulted, but because you are really really stupid.

Highlander one of the few shrewdies around.

The real problem is this: if the decline continues,

It won't. The end.

reading this thread from the bottom up. was sure high_lander was referring to mesmerised

How do you mean freddie ?

Its baffles me why people defend the english (75% foreign players)premier league. Its football is based of `sheer brute power` technical skillful football (passing the ball ) prevails everytime as the spanish had proven, the swansea manager is leading the way on play good passing football, why, oh why, don`t the leading mamgers follow suit ????

Totally agree terrytp they are one of the very few I would consider paying to watch they are a breath of fresh air to the EPL as is the manager he seems to me to be a thoroughly decent guy who has worked wonders for Swansea there are no overpaid prima donnas there and it shows what can be acheived,there are good players about.